ATP M1000 Madrid Open 2024

[Rattie]

All 32 seeds receive a bye into the next round; top 16 listed here and the link shows the full list;

1. Jannik Sinner
2. Carlos Alcaraz
3. Daniil Medvedev
4. Alexander Zverev
5. Casper Ruud
6. Stefanos Tsitsipas
7. Andrey Rublev
8. Hubert Hurkacz
9. Grigor Dimitrov
10. Alex de Minaur
11 Holger Rune
12. Taylor Fritz
13. Ugo Humbert
14. Ben Shelton
15. Tommy Paul
16. Karen Khachanov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Mutua_Madrid_Open_–_Mens_singles

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1782338853740712307

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1782340094294155496

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1782337591393595667

Alcaraz still has an injury question mark over his participation but I believe he is due to test his arm at some point today so we await confirmation.

 

[Rafa4GOAT]

Hopefully Rafa can flip the script against ADM this time (assuming discount Shelton doesn’t cause any surprises)

 

[Deleted member 758560]

cant wait for rg

 

[octobrina10]

In an image file format:

 

[Rattie]

Updated OP with full draw

 

[Arak]

Realistically speaking, Sinner is the favourite.

 

[Notorious_Junkballer]

Nice too see Karatsev back on Tour.

 

[marc45]

I'm sure Nadal would have preferred something other than another match against ADM...even better conditions for ADM here I'd assume

 

[NaDjoFed]

Alcaraz is training in Madrid.

 

[NaDjoFed]

I think the favourite may be Casper Ruud, he is in excellent form. Alcaraz may play or not, but I doubt he will be at his best and Sinner really dislike this tournament.

 

[Rattie]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1782395725248115031

Translation:
Carlos Alcaraz trained today at the Caja Mágica in Madrid with protection on his right forearm.

He didn't force his forehand and it was a medium-speed workout, starting to pick up the pace after several days without holding the racket. It is assumed that he would have to increase the load as the week goes by to see if he is ready to compete.

 

[nolefam_2024]

I have been right just 1 time in choosing winner in 2024. That's the only time I chose Carlos. Let's see.

 

[ALCARAZWON]

Realistically speaking, Sinner is the favourite.

Compared to the contenders, Sinner is hopeless on clay, and has won a total of ONE title on clay in his career (Umag 2022) and won't win anything on clay in 2024.

 

[ALCARAZWON]

I'm sure Nadal would have preferred something other than another match against ADM...even better conditions for ADM here I'd assume

Its easier to hit De Minaur off the court on Madrid, whereas Barcelona favors the retriever.
And at Barcelona, in the press conference after his 1st Round victory, Nadal said he was saving himself for Madrid and Rome-
“There were things [I could have done] today that [could have given] me the possibility to play better today, but don’t give me the possibility to play the next day or the next couple of days, or in terms of weeks, in Madrid or Rome."
And despite holding himself back, Nadal already played a 67 minute set vs. peak De Minaur, and it was an extremely close 7-5 set that hinged on a couple of crucial points.

 

[Move]

I think the favourite may be Casper Ruud, he is in excellent form. Alcaraz may play or not, but I doubt he will be at his best and Sinner really dislike this tournament.

But the circumstances (higth of Madrid, benefits serving, balls travel fast) might suit him. But pollen allergy has to be fixed ...

 

[Move]

Compared to the contenders, Sinner is hopeless on clay, and has won a total of ONE title on clay in his career and won't win anything on clay in 2014

Thats a bold prediction you make ..... like other clueless ones in the past. I see you quickly tried to remove it sneaky bugger

 

[Rovesciarete]

Pretty brutal for Sinner to have two big servers like Jarry/Karen in R4 with Ruud/Dimi/FAA and Tsitsi/Medvedev/Nadal to follow it up. Despite his strengths as mentioned before he has always crashed out before, partly due to his hay fever, so let us see if he clears the qualifier hurdle first...

Alcaraz might pull out despite wanting to play, so he can't be the number one favourite. He faces also big servers & ball strikers from the go, just look at those names. Might be one of the toughest three first rounds I have seen for quite some time for a number 2 seed...

 

[fedfan24]

First fix of the tournament. Thiem 5-3 down and a break down twice in the 5th set, wins 4 games in a row. Blatantly sold.

 

[Arak]

Compared to the contenders, Sinner is hopeless on clay, and has won a total of ONE title on clay in his career.

But Madrid is fast clay.

 

[Vincent-C]

I see Shapovalov has Diaz Acosta first round. Oof.

 

[Move]

I see Shapovalov has Diaz Acosta first round. Oof.

Go Shap !

 

[Connor35]

Nadal drew 1028th ranked wildcard Darwin Blanch.

How does a 1000-ranked player get a wild card into a 1000?

I assume there some story / reason, but it's not evident to me.

 

[_phantom]

Nadal drew 1028th ranked wildcard Darwin Blanch.

How does a 1000-ranked player get a wild card into a 1000?

I assume there some story / reason, but it's not evident to me.

IMG owns Madrid Open.

Blanch is a client of its talent management division.

 

[ALCARAZWON]

But Madrid is fast clay.

But Sinner is just not a contender on clay, period.
History proves this, and he even said a few days ago that he doesn't expect to win more than 2 matches at Madrid.
I'd be shocked if Sinner wins a clay masters event this year.

 

[marc45]

Its easier to hit De Minaur off the court on Madrid, whereas Barcelona favors the retriever.
And at Barcelona, in the press conference after his 1st Round victory, Nadal said he was saving himself for Madrid and Rome-
“There were things [I could have done] today that [could have given] me the possibility to play better today, but don’t give me the possibility to play the next day or the next couple of days, or in terms of weeks, in Madrid or Rome."
And despite holding himself back, Nadal already played a 67 minute set vs. peak De Minaur, and it was an extremely close 7-5 set that hinged on a couple of crucial points.

he's much better playing someone who goes for big shots, and misses a lot of them...ADM will go into lockdown again and Rafa will have to be prepared for a three set three hour war

 

[Rovesciarete]

Tennis Abstract's Elo Singles Forecast​

Archived: R128 | Current
Probable matchups: R64 | R32 | R16 | QF | SF | F

Player	​	R64​	R32​	R16​	QF​	SF​	F​	W​
(1)Jannik Sinner(ITA)	​	100.0%​	91.6%​	85.2%​	71.9%​	51.3%​	35.8%​	23.6%​
(9)Grigor Dimitrov(BUL)	​	100.0%​	79.4%​	60.8%​	29.9%​	11.7%​	5.7%​	2.5%​
(5)Casper Ruud(NOR)	​	100.0%​	85.8%​	67.5%​	46.9%​	22.6%​	13.2%​	7.2%​
	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​
Player	​	R64​	R32​	R16​	QF​	SF​	F​	W​
(3)Daniil Medvedev (RUS)	​	100.0%​	76.1%​	63.6%​	50.7%​	28.4%​	12.8%​	6.6%​
(6)Stefanos Tsitsipas (GRE)	​	100.0%​	85.6%​	71.9%​	55.5%​	39.0%​	20.2%​	11.7%​
Player
(8)Hubert Hurkacz(POL)	​	100.0%​	77.7%​	57.7%​	34.7%​	19.1%​	7.1%​	2.4%​
(12)Taylor Fritz(USA)	​	100.0%​	69.2%​	40.7%​	22.8%​	11.5%​	3.9%​	1.2%​
(4)Alexander Zverev (GER)	​	100.0%​	77.4%​	59.2%​	47.1%​	31.9%​	15.0%​	6.5%​
Player
(7)Andrey Rublev(RUS)	​	100.0%​	86.6%​	65.4%​	39.6%​	15.8%​	9.2%​	3.5%​
(11)Holger Rune(DEN)	​	100.0%​	67.5%​	49.3%​	28.6%​	11.3%​	6.5%​	2.5%​
(2)Carlos Alcaraz(ESP)	​	100.0%​	92.5%​	80.2%​	66.4%​	51.3%​	40.0%​	24.3%​

Forecasts are based on tournament simulations, which employ
surface-specific Elo player ratings. (Men | Women)
There are no doubles or qualifying forecasts at this time.

 

[BeatlesFan]

But Madrid is fast clay.

OK... It's actually the slowest court in all of tennis.

 

[Vincent-C]

OK... It's actually the slowest court in all of tennis.

Higher elevation, so thinner air for the ball to travel through, no?

 

[bezs]

Ralph drawing De Minaur again in the 2nd round.

 

[Rattie]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1782455986348867742

Translation:

Carlos Alcaraz this afternoon at the presentation of @MutuaMadridOpen : «I'm better. I hope to play in Madrid every year and we do everything possible to be there. I don't want to take anything for granted, but after the last few days, I dare say that if everything continues like this we will be there."

 

[BeatlesFan]

Higher elevation, so thinner air for the ball to travel through, no?

All of it is slow, there's no such thing as fast clay. People claimed the blue clay was "fast," Fed always said it was equally as slow as red clay, the footing was just different and more difficult.

 

[Notorious_Junkballer]

Higher elevation, so thinner air for the ball to travel through, no?

Yes, the court itself could be slow but the ball still flies faster through the air as they're playing at almost 700m above the sea level.

 

[mightyjeditribble]

Hopefully Rafa can flip the script against ADM this time (assuming discount Shelton doesn’t cause any surprises)

I don't think Shelton is in the same section as ADM and Nadal.

 

[GloW]

Zverev to win madrid

 

[Deleted member 758560]

I don't think Shelton is in the same section as ADM and Nadal.

he is.. in the same.. top half with em

 

[marc45]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1782422723668398471

 

[Rafa4GOAT]

I don't think Shelton is in the same section as ADM and Nadal.

 

[Nostradamus]

All 32 seeds receive a bye into the next round; top 16 listed here and the link shows the full list;

1. Jannik Sinner
2. Carlos Alcaraz
3. Daniil Medvedev
4. Alexander Zverev
5. Casper Ruud
6. Stefanos Tsitsipas
7. Andrey Rublev
8. Hubert Hurkacz
9. Grigor Dimitrov
10. Alex de Minaur
11 Holger Rune
12. Taylor Fritz
13. Ugo Humbert
14. Ben Shelton
15. Tommy Paul
16. Karen Khachanov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Mutua_Madrid_Open_%E2%80%93_Men%2527s_singles

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1782338853740712307

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1782340094294155496

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1782337591393595667

Alcaraz still has an injury question mark over his participation but I believe he is due to test his arm at some point today so we await confirmation.

So at this point Tsitsipas is the Favorite to win it all at the french open,,,,right ?? we all know Sinner is not his best on clay, Novak is rusty and Old,,,, and Alcarez is semi injured and don't know if he will be 100 % by paris rolls around... And we all know he lost to Casper last sunday cause he was dead tired,, and he said that after

 

[Arak]

OK... It's actually the slowest court in all of tennis.

My fast clay comment was tongue in cheek, but thanks for the graph. I didn’t know the court was so slow. Effectively however, due to thin high elevation air as mentioned by others, the ball travels faster, which favours big servers and aggressive players.

 

[DSH]

Zverev to win madrid

Put himself there.

 

[Musterrific]

De Minaur will beat Nadal even worse than last week.

 

[Rovesciarete]

Effectively however, due to thin high elevation air as mentioned by others, the ball travels faster, which favours big servers and aggressive players.

Exactly. The old graph shows that Madrid clay slowed down the ball most but due to the elevation of 650 m is the fastest clay master. So in tennis parlance it is fast-playing and high-bouncing.

If you think about the traditional Spanish player it is a great surprise indeed that the Spanish Master 1000 selects the most decelerating surface...

 

[Succession]

I have a very bad feeling that Zedrot is gonna make it

 

[Move]

Watch Nicolas Jarry, he could cause some upsets here. But no candidate for the title imo

 

[NaDjoFed]

Nadal - Blanch will be the match with the greatest age difference in the Masters'history

 

[aus89]

Thiem struggling to take the big Kokk on Pista 4 - can see how frustrated he is with himself, but no rhythm and playing super defensively

 

[flyingboris]

Thiem struggling to take the big Kokk on Pista 4 - can see how frustrated he is with himself, but no rhythm and playing super defensively

Second set is more competitive, shame Thiem didn't take his break chance at 4-3. Now one game from the loss.

Edit: ...aaaand he's out.

 

[Kralingen]

Thiem needs to give it up. At this point I can’t even watch his matches, I watched 20 minutes of him nearly losing to some bum named “McCabe” in Aus earlier this year and I just can’t do it, it’s an awful viewing experience. No belief. Usually I’m all for seeing the wily veteran find ways to win as their Plan A is sapped by age but with him it’s just sad

 

[Bill Lobsalot]

Thiem needs to give it up. At this point I can’t even watch his matches, I watched 20 minutes of him nearly losing to some bum named “McCabe” in Aus earlier this year and I just can’t do it, it’s an awful viewing experience. No belief. Usually I’m all for seeing the wily veteran find ways to win as their Plan A is sapped by age but with him it’s just sad

I always thought he was slightly over rated.

 

[Succession]

Thiem needs to give it up. At this point I can’t even watch his matches, I watched 20 minutes of him nearly losing to some bum named “McCabe” in Aus earlier this year and I just can’t do it, it’s an awful viewing experience. No belief. Usually I’m all for seeing the wily veteran find ways to win as their Plan A is sapped by age but with him it’s just sad

That’s 100% on point. It really is a sad sight