ATP M1000 Rome Open 2024
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InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
Tabilo needs to avoid at all costs those 2-1 and 2-2 points. Really just a half baked measure. Knows he needs to fight I guess but it’s the manifestation of that that’s weird? His idea is to play grind fest and see who breaks first but he’s going warm up rally w Zed from the middle. Zed is great and can churn that out all day and Tabilo doesn’t have the attention to detail right now to make that work, relying on his in-form hands (because he’s hit his stride so much which is where tournaments often die, drunk on yourself). But because of that the rest of the body isn’t involved, which obviously is because he’s gassed.
So, rally middle, rally middle, Tabilo subconsciously plays on assumption because that’s what you do when you feel like that, he moves Zverev a step or two outside the middle, then Zverev leverages his accentuated head drop technique, he’s able to get under the ball with a little bit of a cut, and then it comes in on Tabilo with some depth and Alejandro is caught red handed. Been there done that about a thousand times in matches. He was self-aware about the state he was but the diagnosis was simplistic because you convince yourself it’s just a matter of your dictation and if you buy in. He did buy in but the issue is like I said half-baked. There, you either gotta go hyper aggressive with droppers, S&V, or, counterintuitively, you take the battle of attrition across the baseline as opposed to being isolated. It doesn’t seem logical but it’s how it is would take a while to explain unfortunately.
Anyway he got the gist at 5-3 and we did see that he had more in the clip and he resembled himself again but too late by then. Now he’s got to watch out for the early break, usually that’s how it goes after a breaker like this. Not giving Zverev too much credit because he did exactly as he was supposed to wasn’t really anything great. Had the terms offered to him and all he had to do was accept. So yeah he held up his end but not really what you want to see by a season veteran at this point. This third set could be a huge indicator of Tabilo’s future. It takes a lot of composure and special “it” to edge it out. If he pulls it out I will be extremely, extremely impressed because it’s very hard to do unless you are one of the real players
So, rally middle, rally middle, Tabilo subconsciously plays on assumption because that’s what you do when you feel like that, he moves Zverev a step or two outside the middle, then Zverev leverages his accentuated head drop technique, he’s able to get under the ball with a little bit of a cut, and then it comes in on Tabilo with some depth and Alejandro is caught red handed. Been there done that about a thousand times in matches. He was self-aware about the state he was but the diagnosis was simplistic because you convince yourself it’s just a matter of your dictation and if you buy in. He did buy in but the issue is like I said half-baked. There, you either gotta go hyper aggressive with droppers, S&V, or, counterintuitively, you take the battle of attrition across the baseline as opposed to being isolated. It doesn’t seem logical but it’s how it is would take a while to explain unfortunately.
Anyway he got the gist at 5-3 and we did see that he had more in the clip and he resembled himself again but too late by then. Now he’s got to watch out for the early break, usually that’s how it goes after a breaker like this. Not giving Zverev too much credit because he did exactly as he was supposed to wasn’t really anything great. Had the terms offered to him and all he had to do was accept. So yeah he held up his end but not really what you want to see by a season veteran at this point. This third set could be a huge indicator of Tabilo’s future. It takes a lot of composure and special “it” to edge it out. If he pulls it out I will be extremely, extremely impressed because it’s very hard to do unless you are one of the real players
The better player is zverev. If you can’t keep your level for 3 sets you have no business being on a tennis court.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Nope. Tabilo was clear 1st and 2nd set but Zverev got lucky on a few of those BPs. Now we’re seeing garbage tennis 3rd set after a scintillating start.
Carax
Hall of Fame
I think it's fair to say that a lot of people don't like him, including myself. That being said, the post is supposed to be a joke. I don't wish for any playerd to get injured, and that includes the ones that I don't like.
His luck had to end sometime. Hitting the lines on every point was not normal.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Great response from Zverev! Impressive from goldie chainz!
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Zverev looks much fitter and his powerful groundies starting to bear fruit now
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
LOL,, looks like Tabilo lost that ball in the shadows during serve and volley... you have to really keep the eye on the ball like a hawk til Contact with string bed...... LOL 
You obviously don’t like Zverev and that’s fine. Sometimes we see things differently.
Krish0608
G.O.A.T.
I’m willing to bet that Jarry will player truer to his rankings in a potential final and will not offer any resistance against Zverev. There’s a reason why he’s not won anything beyond a 250.
Terenigma
Talk Tennis Guru
These are the scorelines that scare me when it comes to Zverev, he always seems to have a reverse logic in tennis in that he's usually pretty good when the game is close but as soon as he gets a clear lead, he's sometimes prone to choking. I think he should be good here though as Tabilo has gone off but we'll see!
Ray Mercer
Hall of Fame
This Tabilo guy is playing like a bum.
He’s not doing anything exceptional except his 1st serve and grinding the other guy down. It’s mostly Tabilo playing like a mug since the tiebreak. Netting easy shots. Looks tired out there. He deserved a 2 set win but didn’t get the luck his play warranted and now he’s ran out of steam.
The hate for Zverev on this site is incredible,
Terenigma
Talk Tennis Guru
No excuses, players have been given a day off between matches in this new stupid 2-week format. He's a top 50 player (will be top 30 soon) and his legs are gone in a B03 tournament SF? If all Zverev needs to do is push to win then why over-exert and waste energy for the final?
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Deleted member 806402
Guest
Tabilo is slowly descending into the shadow realm.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
A well playing Zverev is great for the game. Because he has the level to beat anyone on his day.
Let him beat Paul first.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Zverev and Tsitsipas are opposite spectrum of God. Tsitsipas in offensive brilliance and Zverev defensive.
Sad they didn't have the other ability to compliment what they had. Or they would be owning RG.
Sad they didn't have the other ability to compliment what they had. Or they would be owning RG.
Tabilo was finished by the middle of the second set already. Losing the tiebreak was the natural consequence.
He had double BP at 5-5 in the 2nd which I’m certain were saved by some botting or pushing. Awful match in the end. Jarry all the way.
InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
Strongly disagree. To me this is a matter of status. Zverev was getting absolutely clowned on when all systems were go. This is comes down exclusively to the physical. And yes I understand it is part of the game. But I totally would expect the almost 10-year man, perennial top 10, well-seasoned, extremely well trained (down to nutrition) veteran with all the experience and quality training under his belt. It seems as though Tabilo has only recently taken a big step up in terms of his professionalism, coming from being a challenger tour grinder. Hopefully as Tabilo continues to be successful he will have the resources and opportunities to do off-court work more like a top 20 player.
I was not impressed with Sascha at all, I would even go so far as to say he was poor. I am biased because I don’t like him, I’ll put that out there for disclosure, but really I don’t think this was a success story for him.
Hard to tell you don’t like Zverev! Some many excuses you make, the guy is in the finals!
Don’t forget that Zverev took a big fall in the previous match and he must be feeling the effects today. It wasn’t his usual level for sure but you can’t blame him for the lack of fitness of his opponent.
DSH
Bionic Poster
InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
That’s why I openly admitted it
I made one excuse, which was his physicality.
InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
That is also a point worth making, thank you. I did not watch the match where he fell, only saw a quick replay of it, so I have no idea how to gauge or assume what the effect is. But because I don’t know he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Also agreed, you can’t blame him for his opponents lack of fitness, and I don’t. Moreso I took issue with how he played from middle of the second on. I didn’t like how everything was on Tabilo’s terms until he was essentially tanking. For a player of his caliber and potential I wanted to see a little bit more perceptiveness of Tabilo’s body language and state, and to see more exploitation. I wanted to see him smell blood. It didn’t really seem like that to me
It’s an intangible criticism for sure and totally based on my gut alone. That’s not lost on me. Not exactly a quantitative critique. But that’s a lot of tennis analysis in my opinion and just kind of what I was receiving
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Zedzilla 
Terenigma
Talk Tennis Guru
He didn't tank, he just put it all on the line and then couldn't keep it up so Zverev endured when he was in-form, took the chance in the TB and took control when his opponent was on cooldown. That is tennis experience. Something that will be much more needed for future B05 slams is to learn when to pick your moments and maintain your stamina for when you need it.
Lingua Franca
Rookie
I guess the Tabilo Boss highlight machine ran out of ink!
I totally agree that he didn’t exploit his opponents drop in form as much as I would have liked. Ultimately the result is self explanatory. It was a dominant third set.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Same here.
