ChrisJR3264
Legend
If Tien can improve his serve, he can break into the top 25 sooner rather than later. Heck he’s kinda close bc his baseline game is quite good.
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The Aceserver
Professional
What Medvedev retired mid-match? Is he not a man???
ChrisJR3264
Legend
Dude actually tried playing through it and got a warning for lack of effort.
Damned if you do. Damned if you don’t.
Vincent-C
Legend
Especially if you're Meddy. Glad the dude won a major, and stopped a [true] Grand Slam- as Rosewall did to Hoad.
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The Aceserver
Professional
If only Allensworth was the chair umpire. That would have been hilarious.
Move
Hall of Fame
And a bit more oomph on his FH as well. But he is still young and not yet fully physically developed imo. But mentally and gamestyle wise he is very promising
Gary Duane
Talk Tennis Guru
No one here is watching. I'm not the only one that thinks it's Sinner is a boring robot.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
I'm watching, just taking a break from commentating for a bit. A bit burned out from the summer stretch. Still watching everything though.
Gary Duane
Talk Tennis Guru
I think Sinner plays robotic tennis. For one thing he almost never comes to the net except when forced. He has huge power but is so uncreative. And I can't forget the whole doping thing. It was so unfair to other players who were hit with huge bans. The previous match with Demon was much more entertaining until the last set.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
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roysid
Legend
Regarding playing style, that probably everyone says about Sinnner more or less. Question is whether that is working. Still working against everyone not named carlos alcaraz which costed him 2 grand slams and 2 atp masters 1000. He himself admitted
So this style cannot be sustained. Need to change his game while facing alcaraz
Well, cant say i was wrong
Has its own match thread
. Probably also because people are mostly at work in Europa, and sleeping in the US?I don't find Sinner boring, and I don't like the "robot" cliche, but there's no reason to watch the final of a 500 event at what for me is literally the middle of the night.Has its own match thread
sortof
Hall of Fame
That´s how a #2 should perform. Unlike MadMed Sonic has the firepower to blow little Tien off the court.
mightyjeditribble
Legend
Man, it's got to be tough if you're on the tour and not Sinner or Alcaraz at the moment. They are both making every final and only losing to each other. The others are left fighting for the scraps.
mightyjeditribble
Legend
He was in a Challenger final and had the chance to become the oldest Challenger winner ever. I'd say he had some success there. Obviously not like his heyday, but if he's still having fun - why not keep going?
Localfoc
Semi-Pro
He's made 1 Challenger final. He's played 9 challenger tournaments this year. That is a not a successful record, for a tour level player. Unless, you're winning challenger titles, any "success" at that level is not worth mentioning.
He's also 2-10 this year on the main tour.
but sure... hE iS hAvInG fUn
mightyjeditribble
Legend
He's 40 after all. Nobody else has won a challenger at his age, let alone an ATP Tour title. I think with him playing to this age and given his injury troubles, he defines success differently from you.
I assume he is having fun and is playing because he loves tennis - otherwise he would have quit by now. I say good for him.
robyrolfo
Hall of Fame
I said this in the other thread, but I think all the talk about him needing a change (including from Sinner himself) is a bit much.
He was one point away from winning 3 of the 4 slams and 2 out of 3 finals against Alcaraz. And if he takes one of those chances, what are we saying right now?
intrepidish
Hall of Fame
Don't you think the best judge of what Sinner needs to do might actually be Sinner himself?
roysid
Legend
If he had won the French, but that didn't happen. What happened that he defeated alcaraz in Wimbledon, definitely became much more agressive since French.
However it was definitely more shocking that alacaraz beat him convincingly on sinners favorite surface. All tennis experts were shocked . It was not a close match.
And you said it was 'too much' that Sinner felt the same. It's correct. Let me post two sample news articles.
Beijing: Jannik Sinner “working on new things” after US Open final loss | Tennis.com
The world No. 2 vowed to be less “predictable” after suffering a four-set defeat to Carlos Alcaraz.
Does Sinner have an Alcaraz problem? Jannik says he needs to become "a bit more unpredictable" | Tennis.com
Their Grand Slam trilogy came to its epic conclusion in New York with a 6-2, 3-6, 6-1, 6-4 victory for Alcaraz—and plenty of homework for Sinner.
robyrolfo
Hall of Fame
Of course. But he doesn't necessarily know what goes on on the other end of the court.
I don't know how much Sinner, and/or his team, was aware of just how bothered Alcaraz was at Wimbledon.
Seems like Sinner's biggest problem is in his head, so info like that is important.
It's not like Alcaraz dominated Sinner in the French. Sinner had three match points for a straight set, dominant win on clay. Then he could have served for it.If he had won the French, but that didn't happen. What happened that he defeated alcaraz in Wimbledon, definitely became much more agressive since French.
However it was definitely more shocking that alacaraz beat him convincingly on sinners favorite surface. All tennis experts were shocked . It was not a close match.
And you said it was 'too much' that Sinner felt the same. It's correct. Let me post two sample news articles.
Beijing: Jannik Sinner “working on new things” after US Open final loss | Tennis.com
The world No. 2 vowed to be less “predictable” after suffering a four-set defeat to Carlos Alcaraz.www.tennis.com
Does Sinner have an Alcaraz problem? Jannik says he needs to become "a bit more unpredictable" | Tennis.com
Their Grand Slam trilogy came to its epic conclusion in New York with a 6-2, 3-6, 6-1, 6-4 victory for Alcaraz—and plenty of homework for Sinner.
That's a big deal. That drastically changes the narrative. I'm just saying that people are making big statements when a single point could have drastically altered the situation.
Murciarules
Semi-Pro
Ashe court is slow and high bouncing, Wimbledon grass has more speed and low bouncing. Ashe court is a disgrace to the northamerican fast courts, anybody whit honesty can tell u that court is slow, in the final they closed the roof and i never seen a slower indoor hardcourt than thatIf he had won the French, but that didn't happen. What happened that he defeated alcaraz in Wimbledon, definitely became much more agressive since French.
However it was definitely more shocking that alacaraz beat him convincingly on sinners favorite surface. All tennis experts were shocked . It was not a close match.
And you said it was 'too much' that Sinner felt the same. It's correct. Let me post two sample news articles.
Beijing: Jannik Sinner “working on new things” after US Open final loss | Tennis.com
The world No. 2 vowed to be less “predictable” after suffering a four-set defeat to Carlos Alcaraz.Does Sinner have an Alcaraz problem? Jannik says he needs to become "a bit more unpredictable" | Tennis.com
Their Grand Slam trilogy came to its epic conclusion in New York with a 6-2, 3-6, 6-1, 6-4 victory for Alcaraz—and plenty of homework for Sinner.
Murciarules
Semi-Pro
also Ashe court is slow as F to be called a northamerican fast court.
Anyway i didnt see a great Sinner in the entire tournement, i think the virus he caught in Cincy was a factor because after that the energy and hes pressure fast pace was not there like in the months before
Murciarules
Semi-Pro
One retired the other not. Stop whit this hating delusion
