ATP500: China Open, Beijing 2023

[Benf15harp]

Holger getting worked by male pattern baldness

 

[Benf15harp]

You think Alcaraz was the same player back in Hamburg of last year, that he became over the past year? Carlos has skyrocketed to the top since then, it has nothing to do with mental, and everything to do with Carlos simply being a clear step above. You can say that the mental aspect only compounds it, but LM is not playing on the same level, not even close.

LoL. Tiny is no better than he was at that time. He was ranked 4 and then 6 weeks later he was number 1. So, 6 weeks changed everything. No.
Muzz has dropped significantly and tiny is the same.

 

[Hitman]

Sinner put in quite the demolition job there.

 

[Hitman]

LoL. Tiny is no better than he was at that time. He was ranked 4 and then 6 weeks later he was number 1. So, 6 weeks changed everything. No.
Muzz has dropped significantly and tiny is the same.

The dude just beat Djokovic in the Wimbledon final, but he is no better than when he played that match in Hamburg. LOL

 

[albertobra]

Interesting that Zvev after marathon night match just concluded a quite tough double match. He doesn't feel worried of being out of steam probably.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Holger should be demolishing players like Dimitrov. No excuse for such sloppy play.

 

[JJGUY]

he is on a rising trajectory and very motivated to make the ATP finals

Interesting that Zvev after marathon night match just concluded a quite tough double match. He doesn't feel worried of being out of steam probably.

 

[Hitman]

Holger should be demolishing players like Dimitrov. No excuse for such sloppy play.

He's struggling to get back into form, but it is coming, you can see it.

 

[BeatlesFan]

He's struggling to get back into form, but it is coming, you can see it.

The whining to his box after every shank needs to stop, it's turning into.Andy Murray lite.

 

[JJGUY]

Rune so agitated on court, calm down!

 

[albertobra]

Holger 3-6 with double break. He looks quite nervous and impatient

 

[Eureka]

if you're not watching Alcaraz play, you're missing out on some of the most fun tennis you'll ever see.

Yep.

Now that the USO swing is over, I can now catch his matches without screwing my sleep up.

Alcaraz in the zone now. When he plays this well it's the best show on earth to me. Good stuff.

I'll second that, Ferobango. And third it too! Having had my tennis time curtailed of late due to real life, watching Carlos play again has been such fun, and a much needed blast of inspiration . I hope he continues to play well - so far so good in this campaign.

Musetti is the only one-hander to have beaten him thus far for a reason after all.

I hadn't noted this myself, but an interesting observation. A shbh is a thing of beauty, and Lorenzo hits it with panache when playing well. Even here, he returned some powerful shots from Carlos with his gorgeous shbh - food for the tennis soul.

Enjoy your comments, and look forward to reading more.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Rune so agitated on court, calm down!

He's always this way, amped and crazy.

 

[Hitman]

He's always this way, amped and crazy.

He's too much of a perfectionist, it is often detrimental to him during matches. He's knows what he is capable of, and when he doesn't do it, he doesn't deal with it the way right way often.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Nice match from sinner. Great ball striking again and his return game was sharp.

 

[Eureka]

Dude is all over that court like a bad rash, LM shaking his head.

This made me Lol. CA's court coverage is astounding when he is in the zone.

I doubt it, broken already. He simply can do nothing to tackle that firepower from Alcaraz. The slice isn't working, and anything he is dropping slightly short is getting the Del Potro forehand treatment.

Interesting analogy - I think you've made it before. What a compliment to the kid - Del Potro's formidable forehand was simply superb.

Hmmm. Holger looking less than in the mood to do damage, but much better effort in this set. Beautiful shbh from Grigor there. A thing of beauty. If HR buckles down, this ought to go to a decider and if it does, I feel HR will win it.

I haven't watched Jannik's match, but he seemed in a hurry to get the job done with a loss of only 2 games. I see that Ruud is through, needing 3 sets and will play Carlos next. The quarterfinals matches all look interesting for various reasons.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Holger now grabbing his back after UE #18 on his FH.

 

[Arak]

Dimitrov could and should have finished this much earlier if it weren’t for his brain farts.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Well, no Rune-Sinner rematch as Holger goes down in flames to the Bulgarian. Very disappointing level continues.

 

[marc45]

Alcaraz-Ruud not on center tomorrow

 

[Hitman]

Alcaraz v Sinner looking very likely now

 

[Eureka]

Well, no Rune-Sinner rematch as Holger goes down in flames to the Bulgarian. Very disappointing level continues.

It is disappointing, Beatlesfan, given the talent of the boy. Grigor has found a new impetus and is playing well again, but in my view he is no match for an in-form Holger. That disappointment could be the basis for the frustration, as Hitman pointed out.

He's too much of a perfectionist, it is often detrimental to him during matches. He's knows what he is capable of, and when he doesn't do it, he doesn't deal with it the way right way often.

I suspect this is likely to improve, as he navigates his path ahead. I believe this to be the case with the talented youngsters ( seems an obvious point) - they are on such a huge learning curve. It will be interesting to see how they develop themselves / their games.

 

[mpournaras]

Why is the Asia swing so bonked in terms of scheduling this year? Start on a Thursday end on the next Wednesday? Was it because of LAver Cup?

 

[Rattie]

Alcaraz-Ruud not on center tomorrow

Which they are both probably glad about as the evening match on centre tomorrow could end up starting at silly o’clock.

 

[chuckersthenut]

Holger getting worked by male pattern baldness

Never tempt the Norwood reaper. He might come for you.

 

[Kralingen]

Why is the Asia swing so bonked in terms of scheduling this year? Start on a Thursday end on the next Wednesday? Was it because of LAver Cup?

Well the time zones are very different so they’re very far ahead of the US. I think that’s the reason.

 

[Winners or Errors]

Well, no Rune-Sinner rematch as Holger goes down in flames to the Bulgarian. Very disappointing level continues.

The back?

 

[Aabye5]

Ruud very lucky to steal that second set.

Ruud is always lucky

 

[Aabye5]

Sinner put in quite the demolition job there.

He is on a mission

 

[Rattie]

Surprisingly Medvedev has a 0-2 h2h against Humbert.

 

[Aabye5]

Let's go, Jar-ry!

He has two wins over Zed, can he make it 3?

 

[Aabye5]

Surprisingly Medvedev has a 0-2 h2h against Humbert.

It's not surprising. Humbert is his nemesis -- I think he only plays well against Count Olaf.

 

[Rattie]

It's not surprising. Humbert is his nemesis -- I think he only plays well against Count Olaf.

Let’s see if history repeats; Daniil looking strong of late.

 

[Benf15harp]

The dude just beat Djokovic in the Wimbledon final, but he is no better than when he played that match in Hamburg. LOL

Had he not beaten Novak before? Besides, Novak choked that match more than Carlos won it.

 

[Eureka]

Surprisingly Medvedev has a 0-2 h2h against Humbert.

Thanks for this stat, Rattie, further to which I looked it up- in straight sets in Hamburg 2020, and in 3 sets at the ATP cup 2022. Adds interest to the mix. Could it be a hat-trick?? Daniil has had a good year so could resist a third defeat.

The QF's will hopefully include entertaining matches: Humbert / Medvedev; Zverev / Jarry; Alcaraz / Ruud ; Dimitrov / Sinner.

 

[Cerdany]

Oooops

 

[Hitman]

Had he not beaten Novak before? Besides, Novak choked that match more than Carlos won it.

Please tell me you are not comparing Djokovic in a best of three on clay to a Wimbledon final on grass.

 

[Rattie]

Thanks for this stat, Rattie, further to which I looked it up- in straight sets in Hamburg 2020, and in 3 sets at the ATP cup 2022. Adds interest to the mix. Could it be a hat-trick?? Daniil has had a good year so could resist a third defeat.

The QF's will hopefully include entertaining matches: Humbert / Medvedev; Zverev / Jarry; Alcaraz / Ruud ; Dimitrov / Sinner.

Can’t say I’ve seen those old matches so maybe it’s a match up issue for Med. A bit too early for me to be up to watch it but somehow I can’t see Daniil losing this one. Talking of h2h, hopefully Carlos will continue his 3-0 h2h against Casper.

 

[Rattie]

Please tell me you are not comparing Djokovic in a best of three on clay to a Wimbledon final on grass.

I wouldn’t bother engaging lol, the non sensical responses just keep coming from that one.

 

[Hitman]

I wouldn’t bother engaging lol, the non sensical responses just keep coming from that one.

I know. But I'm going to defend Carlos where I feel the criticism is unjust.

 

[Benf15harp]

Please tell me you are not comparing Djokovic in a best of three on clay to a Wimbledon final on grass.

This is where u fans don’t understand
It could’ve been played in a parking lot. Don’t matter. Level is level. W is w.

 

[Hitman]

This is where u fans don’t understand
It could’ve been played in a parking lot. Don’t matter. Level is level. W is w.

If you actually think Djokovic puts the same effort in a masters semi versus a slam final, then we really have nothing more to discuss.

 

[Benf15harp]

If you actually think Djokovic puts the same effort in a masters semi versus a slam final, then we really have nothing more to discuss.

Well said from your couch. You have no clue. There’s no difference to a player Ie cincy Novak went 110% there. Why, if it didn’t matter?

 

[chuckersthenut]

Well said from your couch. You have no clue. There’s no difference to a player Ie cincy Novak went 110% there. Why, if it didn’t matter?

This is actually a good point. No question djokovic gave his all in that Cincy final.

 

[albatros_forehand]

Alcaraz looking great. Cruised through his last match.

Alcaraz and Sinner both looking great. This is gonna be the major rivalry in the near future.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Alcaraz and Sinner both looking great. This is gonna be the major rivalry in the near future.

I agree. Great to see both you playing well. Mad lad looking solid too. It’s a shame about Rune at moment

 

[Baseline_Bungle]

LoL. Tiny is no better than he was at that time. He was ranked 4 and then 6 weeks later he was number 1. So, 6 weeks changed everything. No.
Muzz has dropped significantly and tiny is the same.

That's ridiculous. Rats has obviously progressed, and Musetti has not "dropped significantly". One thing worth mentioning is that Musetti robbed Rats of a very big point in that Hamburg match, failing to confess a very obvious double bounce. That, together with a somewhat "humiliating" loss, seems to have given Muscle Boy a huge chip on his shoulder when he faces the conceited Tuscan. Result: 63 62 62 62 62 in the last five sets they've played, with Musetti having to work super hard to avoid bakery goods...

 

[NYTennisfan]

The dude just beat Djokovic in the Wimbledon final, but he is no better than when he played that match in Hamburg. LOL

That guy is a massive Carlos hater. I wouldn't pay him any mind.

 

[Hitman]

Well said from your couch. You have no clue. There’s no difference to a player Ie cincy Novak went 110% there. Why, if it didn’t matter?

Like you do, hey Mr ATP Professional?

 

[Hitman]

That guy is a massive Carlos hater. I wouldn't pay him any mind.

Not engaging anymore.