ATP's Player of the Year - contradicting its own rankings

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I find it really interesting in how often the ATP's 'Player of the Year' contradicted its own end of year rankings.

Year ATP Player of the Year Year end ATP number 1
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1975 Arthur Ashe Jimmy Connors

1976 Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors

1977 Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors *

1978 Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors

1982 Jimmy Connors John McEnroe

1989 Boris Becker Ivan Lendl


Good on the ATP for recognizing the Statistics don't always show who was the best player - particularly the point system.

Interesting that Vilas wasn't on either list in 1977.
 
1977

For those trying to get the ATP to come up with a revision saying that Vilas was the end of year number one - they might be out of luck. The ATP is unlikely to undermine its own 'Player of the Year' awards (that year given to Borg).

Now having said that I personally feel that Vilas does deserve the 1977 number 1. My view is that Borg was a better player (hence the aptness of the 'Player of the Year' title - being the best player of the year), but ranking should depend on achievements not who was the better player and Vilas clearly had the most achievements that year (because Achievements aren't subjective but determining who was the best player is subjective).
 
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but ranking should depend on achievements not who was the better player and Vilas clearly had the most achievements that year (because Achievements aren't subjective but determining who was the best player is subjective).

Agreed. Vilas had the best achievements in 1977 and Borg played the best tennis. From Nice in March until Oviedo in November, Borg only lost one match (that retirement to Stockton at the US Open) and played at a much higher level than Vilas did when he was compiling his winning streak on clay that year. Borg was winning big tournaments on clay, carpet and grass with strong fields. However as you said the 'player of the year' mantle should be based solely on achievements, so Vilas takes that title.

Similarly in 1999, Agassi deserved to finish as the year end no.1 as he won 2 slams and reached another final. However Sampras definately played the best tennis that year during his 24 match winning streak (beating Agassi in straight sets 3 times) in the summer and in the year end Masters final where he gave Agassi a pretty savage beating.

As much as I like Mac, I have to admit that in 1982 he was probably the weakest year end no. 1 in the history of the computer ranking system. Sure he did win some pretty big titles at Phildalphia and Wembley, but in addition to not a winning a slam, he also didn't win the Masters, the WCT finals or any other WCT titles that year. Connors and Lendl both had much better years than him.
 
There is a group on facebook : Vilas fue numero uno in 1977. They want to ask to the ATP to publy an official declaration saying that Vilas was the real n°1 in 1977. It woul be fair. Justice for Vilas !
 
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There is a group on facebook : Vilas fue numero uno in 1977. They want to ask to the ATP to publy an official declaration saying that Vilas was the real n°1 in 1977. It woul be fair. Justice for Vilas !

Even if it is justified the ATP are unlikely to do anything that will undermine their player of the year - Borg that year
 
Just wondering

I find it really interesting in how often the ATP's 'Player of the Year' contradicted its own end of year rankings.

Year ATP Player of the Year Year end ATP number 1
----- ----------------- ---- -----------------------
1975 Arthur Ashe Jimmy Connors

1976 Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors

1977 Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors *

1978 Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors

1982 Jimmy Connors John McEnroe

1989 Boris Becker Ivan Lendl


Good on the ATP for recognizing the Statistics don't always show who was the best player - particularly the point system.

Interesting that Vilas wasn't on either list in 1977.

I just find it interesting what the ATP's own logic is in contradicting its own ranking system? I wonder what reasoning they brought to bare in each of the above cases? Did they make the process explicit in their determining their 'Player of the Year'?
 
I find it really interesting in how often the ATP's 'Player of the Year' contradicted its own end of year rankings.

Year ATP Player of the Year Year end ATP number 1
----- ----------------- ---- -----------------------
1975 Arthur Ashe Jimmy Connors

1976 Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors

1977 Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors *

1978 Bjorn Borg Jimmy Connors

1982 Jimmy Connors John McEnroe

1989 Boris Becker Ivan Lendl


Good on the ATP for recognizing the Statistics don't always show who was the best player - particularly the point system.

Interesting that Vilas wasn't on either list in 1977.
Best player of the year and World No. 1 player of the year are different concepts, therefore it makes sense that you could have two different players named for some years.
 
Best player of the year and World No. 1 player of the year are different concepts, therefore it makes sense that you could have two different players named for some years.
Why? Surely the player who accumulated the most points by 31-Dec is the best player of the year. Otherwise what other criteria should they use to determine the best player of the year?
 
Most experts think Connors was number 1 in 1976. I agree with the ATP ranking here and disagree with them giving player of the year to Borg. Connors and Borg both won a slam each but Connors comfortably had a better year outside the slams and outdid Borg in head to head meetings.
 
Why? Surely the player who accumulated the most points by 31-Dec is the best player of the year. Otherwise what other criteria should they use to determine the best player of the year?
No, the best player does not always win the annual World No. 1 spot which is a points concept. Not hard to understand that.
 
Most experts think Connors was number 1 in 1976. I agree with the ATP ranking here and disagree with them giving player of the year to Borg. Connors and Borg both won a slam each but Connors comfortably had a better year outside the slams and outdid Borg in head to head meetings.
Which is why Connors was world No. 1 for the year in the points system...that is all it means, accumulating the most points, which means a consistent performance in the season events.

Winning at Wimbledon probably gives a fair indication of the best player of the year. But not always, sometimes the best player is injured and another will win.

The same was true in the late forties and fifties when Kramer would win the world champion tours but lose the major tournaments, he could be rated world champion on consistency against the rookie pros, but clearly not the world No. 1 on tournament play. The rankings usually gave Kramer a grade below No. 1. Recent tennis writers have not picked up on that.
 
Which is why Connors was world No. 1 for the year in the points system...that is all it means, accumulating the most points, which means a consistent performance in the season events.

Winning at Wimbledon probably gives a fair indication of the best player of the year. But not always, sometimes the best player is injured and another will win.

The same was true in the late forties and fifties when Kramer would win the world champion tours but lose the major tournaments, he could be rated world champion on consistency against the rookie pros, but clearly not the world No. 1 on tournament play. The rankings usually gave Kramer a grade below No. 1. Recent tennis writers have not picked up on that.
Connors won the US Open in 76, which was just as big as Wimbledon then.
 
No, the best player does not always win the annual World No. 1 spot which is a points concept. Not hard to understand that.
Well it would need to have some criteria around ‘the best’ for it to hold up to scrutiny. What I believe you are indicating is the performances at the very biggest events, yes?
 
In 89, Becker won Wim and US. He also dominated in Davis Cup leading W Germany to victory, winning runners over Agassi, Edberg and Wlilander.

Lendl won Aus, then lost to Becker at Wim SF and US F. And Lendl won a ton of titles that year. With that and Davis Cup not counting towards ATP points, Lendl finished 1 and Becker 2 in the rankings.

I don’t believe it was an ATP award, rather ITF Player of the Year. As slams and Davis Cup fall under ITF, the award rightfully went to Becker.
 
1975 Ashe winning POY was I think a largely symbolic and political gesture. He won Wimbledon in the first All American final there in like 30 years. He was also the first black man to ever win Wimbledon. Then add in the fact that Connors was the overwhelming favorite, hadn't dropped a set en route to the final and was defending champion....and Wimbledon was at that point the height of the tennis calendar by far...Ashe was handed POY for that tournament.

Then, add in all the political stuff going on in 1975 with Connors/Ashe/The tour itself. Connors during the course of the year had sued the tour, Ashe himself and was involved in a whole bunch of fighting with the entire system. Do you think the ATP would have award player of the year to a guy who sued them and their president within the last 12 months? Especially when Connors, despite an impressive W/L record failed to win a single major? Wasn't gonna happen.
 
Vilas behaved better than Jimmy Connors tied up in a straight jacket
surprised he one didnt become 1977 player of the year for winning so
many tournaments and beating Connors at his home Slam with a bagel
at the end. ATP have always been deluded and are tarnishing the sport
with its slowed down balls making every Slam have the same av rallye lengths.

1977 US Open
NY, U.S.A.
Outdoor Clay F Guillermo Vilas 26 63 76 60
 
Well it would need to have some criteria around ‘the best’ for it to hold up to scrutiny. What I believe you are indicating is the performances at the very biggest events, yes?
There are two major awards each year, No. 1 on points, and Player of the Year (best player). Two different measures of achievement. Player of Year concentrates on major wins.
 
1975 Ashe winning POY was I think a largely symbolic and political gesture. He won Wimbledon in the first All American final there in like 30 years. He was also the first black man to ever win Wimbledon. Then add in the fact that Connors was the overwhelming favorite, hadn't dropped a set en route to the final and was defending champion....and Wimbledon was at that point the height of the tennis calendar by far...Ashe was handed POY for that tournament.

Then, add in all the political stuff going on in 1975 with Connors/Ashe/The tour itself. Connors during the course of the year had sued the tour, Ashe himself and was involved in a whole bunch of fighting with the entire system. Do you think the ATP would have award player of the year to a guy who sued them and their president within the last 12 months? Especially when Connors, despite an impressive W/L record failed to win a single major? Wasn't gonna happen.
Ashe did win the WCT finals too. Back then it was regarded as an elite title.
 
Ashe indeed played a fine year in 1975, he had 8 tournament wins, if i remember it right, while Connors had 9. But Ashe played the much harder WCT circuit, which he with his 4 group wins, won on points standings, and the WCT Dallas final over Borg. In the autumn after Wimbledon , he won two further big hard court titles at LA and San Francisco. Connors had some good tournament wins, but for much of the time, he played the lighter Riordan circuit. His biggest wins probably were his 2 Las Vegas heavyweight match wins for huge money. In sheer tournament play, Ashe won by far the most prize money. The ATP computer system was problematic, to say the least. It was based on average and favored the player, who played less. Also, it excluded play offs like Dallas WCT finals or year end Masters. It actually was concepted for the seeding of tournaments, to give the tournament directors some parameters for the seeding process , not for the year end ranking. Ashe was only Computer Nr. 4, at year end 1975, which was a farce. Under a modern points race system, both would be close, but i think, Ashe with his deeper results would prevail.
 
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Ashe indeed played a fine year in 1975, he had 8 tournament wins, if i remember it right, while Connors had 9. But Ashe played the much harder WCT circuit, which he with his 4 group wins, won on points standings, and the WCT Dallas final over Borg. In the autumn after Wimbledon , he won two further big hard court titles at LA and San Francisco. Connors had some good tournament wins, but for much of the time, he played the lighter Riordan circuit. His biggest wins probably were his 2 Las Vegas heavyweight match wins for huge money. In sheer tournament play, Ashe won by far the most prize money. The ATP computer system was problematic, to say the least. It was based on average and favored the player, who played less. Also, it excluded play offs like Dallas WCT finals or year end Masters. It actually was concepted for the seeding of tournaments, to give the tournament directors some parameters for the seeding process , not for the year end ranking. Ashe was only Computer Nr. 4, at year end 1975, which was a farce. Under a modern points race system, both would be close, but i think, Ashe with his deeper results would prevail.
So Connors had year end most point and Ashe - 'Best Player'?
 
This Player of the year stopped though in the 1980's. I guess we now have had the ITF World Champion - which can differ from the end of year points - but that is rare now that the two systems differ.
 
I would say it so for 1985: Connors was Nr. 1. on the ATP Computer on an average basis of selected tournaments. In a points race system, Ashe had probably the most points, especially if you include the important WCT finals (which he won) and ATP year end Masters.(where he reached the semis, and won all his 3 group matches).
 
The core question always has been: Is the at the time existing ranking system (if one exists) a fair representation of the actual year long performance. We see it today. Overall we have a pretty fair representation with the point race and the rolling ranking system. And a pretty solid hierarchy of tournaments: slams, Masters, 500 and 250 tournaments. We can however discuss, if they should give more points for slams, say 3000 instead of 2000 points, and so on. In the last years, there were huge ranking problems due to Covid and political reasons, with big impacts on the actual ranking. That the ATP didn't count Wim points for 2022, is a big problem. The frozen Covid rankings also were very problematic.

In a historical perspective: Until the 1980s, no really representative points ranking system existed. In the pro era, some internal rankings may have existed, but they were never exactly kept or published. Good researchers like No Mercy, Krosero, Chris Jordan or Scott Tennis dug out old paper findings to reconstruct those forgotten pro tours better. The state of organization of the pro game was very, very poor. For some time after Kramer, whose record books were kept by his grandma (no joke), players like Trabert, Sedgman and Rosewall operated as chief executives of the pro tour. When the lawyer Wally Dill in 1966 took over the pro organization, he lamented about the poor, non-existing institutional state of the whole pro game. Thanks to Lamar Hunt, the organization of the pro game became better, but due to the rivalling circuits and promoters (ILTF, WCT, ATP and so on), the scene in the early open era was still more than chaotic until the mid 1980s.

We should not overrate the computer ranking since late 1973 until say the mid 1980s, it was invented for the seeding process in a tournament, as a helping instrument for tournament directors all over the world. In the 1970s, the top players cared much more about Paper rankings, by Tingay, Bellamy, World Tennis or Tennis magazine. The most objective and representative ranking list was the prize money winners list. The ATP Computer list in the 1970s had so many flaws, it was operated by 2-3 people in a small room in Ponte Vedra, sometimes with notes by hand and many bad calculations. It excluded for political reasons (ATP was a Players Union) many important events, which would never be ignored today. And the average system favored the players, who played less. A loss counted more than a win., There was no regulation of a certain number of requested events (much later, in the late 1980s, a 14 requested events rule was established). And the rivalling circuits and promoters made things difficult and intransparent.
 
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The core question always has been: Is the at the time existing ranking system (if one exists) a fair representation of the actual year long performance. We see it today. Overall we have a pretty fair representation with the point race and the rolling ranking system. And a pretty solid hierarchy of tournaments: slams, Masters, 500 and 250 tournaments. We can however discuss, if they should give more points for slams, say 3000 instead of 2000 points, and so on. In the last years, there were huge ranking problems due to Covid and political reasons, with big impacts on the actual ranking. That the ATP didn't count Wim points for 2022, is a big problem. The frozen Covid rankings also were very problematic.

In a historical perspective: Until the 1980s, no really representative points ranking system existed. In the pro era, some internal rankings may have existed, but they were never exactly kept or published. Good researchers like No Mercy, Krosero, Chris Jordan or Scott Tennis dug out old paper findings to reconstruct those forgotten pro tours better. The state of organization of the pro game was very, very poor. For some time after Kramer, whose record books were kept by his grandma (no joke), players like Trabert, Sedgman and Rosewall operated as chief executives of the pro tour. When the lawyer Wally Dill in 1966 took over the pro organization, he lamented about the poor, non-existing institutional state of the whole pro game. This poor and chaotic state also ruled the scene in the early open era until the mid 1980s.

We should not overrate the computer ranking since late 1973 until say the mid 1980s, it was invented for the seeding process in a tournament, as a helping instrument for tournament directors all over the world. In the 1970s, the top players cared much more about Paper rankings, by Tingay, Bellamy, World Tennis or Tennis magazine. The most objective and representative ranking list was the prize money winners list. The ATP Computer list in the 1970s had so many flaws, it was operated by 2-3 people in a small room in Ponte Vedra, sometimes with notes by hand and many bad calculations. It excluded for political reasons (ATP was a Players Union) many important events, which would never be ignored today. And the average system favored the players, who played less. A loss counted more than a win., There was no regulation of a certain number of requested events (much later, in the late 1980s, a 14 requested events rule was established). And the rivalling circuits and promoters made things difficult and intransparent.
Some of the old pro rankings were published in newspapers and pro literature. There were tournament point systems to rank the entire field of pros in 1946, 1959, 1960 (abandoned), 1964-69.
The world tours in 1942, 1954, 1961, 1963 also provided official rankings of the top group of pros.
 
Vilas behaved better than Jimmy Connors tied up in a straight jacket
surprised he one didnt become 1977 player of the year for winning so
many tournaments and beating Connors at his home Slam with a bagel
at the end. ATP have always been deluded and are tarnishing the sport
with its slowed down balls making every Slam have the same av rallye lengths.

1977 US Open
NY, U.S.A.
Outdoor Clay F Guillermo Vilas 26 63 76 60
As said Rod Laver in the netflix documentary, Vilas was from South America, and it explains a lot of things ...
 
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