Attacking Slices. How do you adjust ?

Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by TimeToPlaySets, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. TimeToPlaySets

    TimeToPlaySets Hall of Fame

    Aug 3, 2012
    When I get a slice hit to me, I often slice it back.
    When I get a dinkSlice serve, I often slice it back.
    Even a drop slice, I often slice it back.
    This was a huge step forward in reducing errors and getting demolished by slicers.

    However, even when I get a sitter slice, for the classic approach shot,
    I tend to hit the approach into the net.
    Can a slice still have backspin on it after bouncing?
    I don't want to slice these as well, because then I will have no offense at all.
    I need to be able to put away a floater sitter slice, but I can't.

    Baseline groundstroke slices, I just slice back.
    Even short slices, I slice back.
    Bottom line, against a slicer, I was dumping tons of "neutral slice" approach shots into the net.
    Against topspin, I don't do this nearly at the same frequency.
    It's something about slice neutral sitters.

    One theory I have is that a backSlice bounces back towards the opponent.
    So, it is slightly more forward than a standard simple to hit deep topspin shot.
    Since it's more forward, does that make you hit it into the net?

    I have practiced dink short balls, and hitting the approach shot.
    I am going to have a lesson where the feeder hits 100% slice short balls for approach shots.
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2018
  2. LeeD

    LeeD Bionic Poster

    Dec 28, 2008
    East side of San Francisco Bay
    Aim higher when facing slices, aim lower against topspin.
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  3. ptuanminh

    ptuanminh Professional

    Jan 23, 2014
    If you are not comfortable with attacking slices yet, go for depth toward your opponent weak side. Shorten your swing will help. Load it up with topspin.
    Move fast and stay low.
  4. StringSnapper

    StringSnapper Professional

    May 15, 2017
    You have to counteract the underspin with extra topspin. Thats the secret
  5. Chadillac

    Chadillac Legend

    Jun 14, 2015
    High low high prep, fast racket speed, top of the ball. Follow through angle is dependant on person/contact. If going hitting net, finish higher. Goes deep = finish lower
  6. S&V-not_dead_yet

    S&V-not_dead_yet Legend

    Mar 16, 2015
    In addition, I find getting lower to the ground and starting my swing a bit sooner helps. If I fail to do those things, my shots go into the net.
  7. FiReFTW

    FiReFTW Hall of Fame

    Aug 13, 2016
    I saw a vid where it said that after a slice bounces it has some topspin alltho very low amount.

    Anyway I dont have problems hitting topspin against slices ever since ive figured out you just need to get very low..
    (Usually you think you get very low but when you watch vid you see that you dont).
    But really srong extremely low skid slices yes its better to just slice back.

    @TimeToPlaySets its a good idea to get fed alot of slices, you should practice this alot to become good at it.
    However I encourage you to not only slice them but also topspin, practice both, you need to master all skills and have a complete and versitile game.
  8. RetroSpin

    RetroSpin Hall of Fame

    Sep 27, 2011
    This is a fairly common issue I think. A slice sitter is going to drop quickly after the bounce, compared to topspin, so you have to take that into account. Get there early and hit it at the top of the bounce. Really, a slice sitter is just a really bad drop shot.

    A low slice into NML is a problem because it is low and the net is closer. You don't want to pop up an approach shot, so the choices are hit close to the net or try to hit topspin. Short angle CC slice is an alternative.
  9. PMChambers

    PMChambers Hall of Fame

    Oct 16, 2013
    You just need practise. Rip up the back or across the back of the ball. If your hitting long then you need more brush and hit less through the ball.
    Just watch the normal trap of hitting through the ball too much so it goes into net. Start opening grip up and it goes long. Countering this by slowing racquet head speed so it doesn't have the topspin required and still goes long and eventually opening up the grip and pushing. It's a high commitment shot, needs practise.
    PS becareful using windscreen wiper action, still need some forward momentum else your setting yourself up next ball to be hurt.
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  10. Dou

    Dou New User

    May 7, 2018
    with today's super spinny copoly strings, how can you possibly hit into the net.... for me sometimes there is too much up and down on the ball I hit.

    are you still using nylon?
  11. zaph

    zaph Semi-Pro

    Sep 29, 2013
    Three options:

    1)DInk it, drop shot it (depends how good you are), then close the net and try to win on the volley. Risky against a quick player. Might be your only option if you can barely reach it.

    2)Slice approach shot, but for this to work it has to have some depth and bite on it. The problem with low level players is they put too much air in the shot and it sits up to be smacked.

    3)Topspin shot, go for the short angle with lots of spin to clear the net. Blasting it at the baseline is asking for it to go long and gives your opponent the chance to pass you, if they reach it.
  12. TimeToPlaySets

    TimeToPlaySets Hall of Fame

    Aug 3, 2012
    @Dou Poly at 50 lbs.
  13. TimeToPlaySets

    TimeToPlaySets Hall of Fame

    Aug 3, 2012
    Prefer not a dropDink or slice a weak short ball.
    I hit topspin but it goes into the net.
    This does not happen against other players.
    Only against the slicer, even if it's a sitter.
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2018
  14. PMChambers

    PMChambers Hall of Fame

    Oct 16, 2013
    "Rip it, rip it good"
    "When a slice comes along
    You must rip it.
    Go forward, follow through and rip it
    rip it good"
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  15. geubes

    geubes New User

    Jun 18, 2016
    get low, learn forward and RIP over the ball - it has to be attacked
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  16. ubercat

    ubercat Rookie

    Dec 15, 2017
    If it's a sitter slice move closer to the ball. You want to hit it before it gets a chance to spin all over the place.

    I would argue for low fast slices that a slice return is much safer
  17. Bender

    Bender G.O.A.T.

    Dec 30, 2010
    weak era
    +1 for me

    They are slow too so if they come to my backhand, I will run around it to hit a forehand as much as possible, then try to smack a reverse forehand with as much acceleration as possible.
  18. junior74

    junior74 Legend

    Aug 19, 2013
    Down south up north
    Attacking slices, Suresh style:
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  19. nytennisaddict

    nytennisaddict Legend

    Aug 20, 2007
    additionally this is probably the easiest ball to practice, as a normal drop feed.

    IMO the reason slice in general gives me fits, is when the opponent is hitting so much slice, you're not sure if the ball will skid, or if it will "catch" and sit up (which is what the slice is designed to do... force you to be active with your footwork up until just before you swing)
    general rules for me... if i don't just slice it back (usually the easiest thing to do), i'll sorta moonball it back... it's definitely a "grip and rip" type swing, but emphasizing the topspin and height over the net, not really thinking about the pace, just focusing on depth.
  20. ChaelAZ

    ChaelAZ Hall of Fame

    Oct 23, 2014
    To attack I have to give myself more space, get low to the ball, and work to get in top spin. Otherwise I can move in tight and try to slice back deep usually.

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