August 25th 2008: Donald Young grew up....

coloskier

Legend
Good point.

Yeah, James Blake wanted to play a five set match in the first round, particularly considering he's only won a single five setter in his career. I guess he figured it would be good practice.
I agree with what you are trying to say, no one wants to play a 5 setter, but to me it did look like he was playing around a lot.
 

mrDamien

Hall of Fame
Grew up :confused: by how many inches. He still consider one of the smallest size men on tour. Blake too good for him to handle so badly.
 
No way DY will ever be top 20. He will also never win a top tier tourny. Can someone please explain to me how his record for someone who has this much tour experience is good??? Look at every other successful player and by this much tour experience as DY has, they are way ahead (I'm not talking about Nadal, McEnroe, Sampras, Agassi, Borg, Becker, Chang, Wilander, Courrier, etc..all these guys are freaks of nature and DY will never be at this level). I'm talking about: Murray, Gasquet, Monfils, Querry, Djokivic, Safin, Berdych, Del Potro, Malavai Washington, Todd Martin, etc...DY is not even close to being on track to these guys and this is your top 20 tier.

The match with Blake was ugly and the only positive was that both players played bad so it seemed dramatic (like watching a women's match with 15 breaks of serve). Blake and DY should be fined for their pathetic performance.
 

guernica1

Semi-Pro
No way DY will ever be top 20. He will also never win a top tier tourny. Can someone please explain to me how his record for someone who has this much tour experience is good??? Look at every other successful player and by this much tour experience as DY has, they are way ahead (I'm not talking about Nadal, McEnroe, Sampras, Agassi, Borg, Becker, Chang, Wilander, Courrier, etc..all these guys are freaks of nature and DY will never be at this level). I'm talking about: Murray, Gasquet, Monfils, Querry, Djokivic, Safin, Berdych, Del Potro, Malavai Washington, Todd Martin, etc...DY is not even close to being on track to these guys and this is your top 20 tier.

The match with Blake was ugly and the only positive was that both players played bad so it seemed dramatic (like watching a women's match with 15 breaks of serve). Blake and DY should be fined for their pathetic performance.
Yes! A Mal Washington prop!
 
Why is all the venom on here so vicious towards Donald Young on here? He's still only 19 years old, what do all the Young haters expect him to be Nadal? So he hasn't performed so far, SO FAR! He's still only 19, I think you should still give him more time to progress and become a more complete player, instead of criticizing him as though his game is already complete.
 

baseliner

Professional
Wow! Donald Young loses (another) match and suddenly he has arrived. He goes 5 sets in a sloppy error filled match and he is a comer? Sorry, I don't see it. As for the future of tennis, I am willing to bet one year from today that Sam Querry and John Isner will be higher ranked than DY.
 
Wow! Donald Young loses (another) match and suddenly he has arrived. He goes 5 sets in a sloppy error filled match and he is a comer? Sorry, I don't see it. As for the future of tennis, I am willing to bet one year from today that Sam Querry and John Isner will be higher ranked than DY.
He went 5 sets against a guy that just beat Fed and has been top 10 for past 3 yrs. It's still encouraging result for Young to play so well. Why are you so bold in your predictions. If anything, Isner's had a worse yr than Young. And Isner had 4 yrs of college to improve and is still a one trick wonder.
 

oberyn

Professional
I'm talking about: Murray, Gasquet, Monfils, Querry, Djokivic, Safin, Berdych, Del Potro, Malavai Washington, Todd Martin, etc...DY is not even close to being on track to these guys and this is your top 20 tier.
Murray, Gasquet, Safin, Berdych, Del Potro, and Djokovic are light years ahead of Young, but this fact alone doesn't mean that Young's a bum or a bust. It's more a mark of how accomplished these guys were at a young age.

At age 20 Mal Washington was ranked #217. At age 20, Todd Martin was ranked #281.

They hadn't even turned pro when they were Young's age. By comparison, their peers Agassi, Chang, Courier, and Sampras had achieved a lot more in the sport of tennis. Didn't stop Washington and Martin from carving out nice careers for themselves.

Querrey is a better comparison. In terms of age and expierence, Querrey in 2006 is equivalent to Young in 2008.

Querrey ended 2006 ranked #130.

Young played well against Blake and he's shown some glimpses of talent. Saying that he's a lost cause at age 19 seems, to me, to be as ridiculous as claiming that he's a lock for winning a Slam or that he's the future of American tennis.
 

logansc

Professional
The match with Blake was ugly and the only positive was that both players played bad so it seemed dramatic (like watching a women's match with 15 breaks of serve). Blake and DY should be fined for their pathetic performance.
There are some folks that appreciate fast, attacking style tennis, myself included. I thought it was a very entertaining match. As far as DY he displayed some great court sense and fantastic hands at the net. Granted he has a ways to go, he demonstrated that he can play with a top ten player.
 
Murray, Gasquet, Safin, Berdych, Del Potro, and Djokovic are light years ahead of Young, but this fact alone doesn't mean that Young's a bum or a bust. It's more a mark of how accomplished these guys were at a young age.

At age 20 Mal Washington was ranked #217. At age 20, Todd Martin was ranked #281.

They hadn't even turned pro when they were Young's age. By comparison, their peers Agassi, Chang, Courier, and Sampras had achieved a lot more in the sport of tennis. Didn't stop Washington and Martin from carving out nice careers for themselves.

Querrey is a better comparison. In terms of age and expierence, Querrey in 2006 is equivalent to Young in 2008.

Querrey ended 2006 ranked #130.

Young played well against Blake and he's shown some glimpses of talent. Saying that he's a lost cause at age 19 seems, to me, to be as ridiculous as claiming that he's a lock for winning a Slam or that he's the future of American tennis.
I use to practice on the court next to Todd Martin in college and I can tell you that Todd Martin could have gone pro at 17/18. Instead he got a full ride to Northwestern so that he could lift weights and build his endurance. Mal Washington also could have gone pro earlier. Both he and Martin, facing tough earnings propositions and needed to get in shape, use scholarships at college to do this. Soooo, I would argue that Mal and Martin had both accomplished more than DY. They both played juniors and I believe were ranked #1 and #2 in college for a couple years. Martin went pro at 20, after his sophmore year and I believe Mal went after his Junior year, but not sure.

They were both better than DY at age 19 and once they hit the pro tour they rose fast.
 
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