Yes, you're right.. Murray's playing better than Wimbledon 13.
Australian Open 2015 Final: Novak Djokovic vs Andy Murray
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Yes, you're right.. Murray's playing better than Wimbledon 13.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Perish the thought! :wink:
Exactly. The way Murray is playing at the moment and the way Djokovic just played against Wawrinka, I would think it virtually impossible for him not to. If he doesn't, then I feel it will be more down to his level of play rather than to a goating Djokovic which we have yet to see.
I just don't get how anybody could seriously say Murray won't be capable of winning a set given their history and the many wins Murray has had over Djokovic in both Slam and Masters finals! I mean, it beggars belief and just underlies the absolute lack of respect for him and his game that certain posters on here persist in trotting out despite all evidence to the contrary!
Feather
Legend
Why on earth would he do that?
I too think Roger would have lost had he played this Murray.
I think what Hitman meant is the 6-0, 6-1 at WTF and Murray's subsequent comments that it inspired him to make a stronger comeback or something like hat
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I think as well this is what he meant. Federer's crushing is what fired up Murray IMO.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I think Murray is part of the Big 4 with what he showed in thir tournament. Only the Big 4 can have such a resurgence afer a horrible season
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Djokovic will raise his level. If he plays his A game he's a notch above murray. Djoko in 4 tough sets! 
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
You crack me up! Don't let it bother you. There is a lot of garbage posted on this forum and so many people find it impossible to be objective at all when they dislike a player, even if that player is one of the best players in the world and has won a couple of slams (beating Djokovic in two of them.) I mean I don't particularly love Djokovic but I said I thought he would beat Stan in four today. Some people are not able to predict accurately because their hatred blinds them.
With respect to the upcoming Novak vs Andy match obviously most people would give the edge to Novak because of his past results there but Andy looks like he is on some kind of real mission to prove people wrong and he looks pretty fit. He better be fit if he wants to go the distance with Novak of all people in five sets. I think if he can play as aggressively as he has this whole tournament which is probably easier said than done, he can pull out the win. Mauresmo was always an aggressive player. Maybe she has finally permeated Andy's brain that playing passively won't cut it especially after that horrible loss vs Federer at the WTF.
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cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Oh, if that is was Hitman meant, I agree. That loss had to sting badly and knock some sense into him.
Emiliano55
Professional
Heart wants Muzz to win.
Logic says Djokovic will prevail in 4 sets.
Logic says Djokovic will prevail in 4 sets.
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Deleted member 77403
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Yes, that is what I meant. 
Feather
Legend
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Wait, I thought you have been telling us for weeks that Djokovic will win this title because that is what the astrological charts tell you? Why are you changing your tune now and why do you always do that?
Does the astrology tell you Djokovic will win this or not? :-?
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Deleted member 77403
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Well in the last three slams finals now that Novak has been in, he has played against Nadal, Federer and Murray. He is playing every one of the big four in a slam final within the last 12 months.
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Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
I said pre-tournament that Novak getting ill twice within the last month may effect him, when the going gets tough.
Not sure if it was that, that contributed to his weird day at the office today, but if it was that it will effect him even more in the long rallies vs. Murray -------- meaning that now is the time to strike for Murray.
Murray in 4-5, there - I said it! (not sure I believe it though).
Not sure if it was that, that contributed to his weird day at the office today, but if it was that it will effect him even more in the long rallies vs. Murray -------- meaning that now is the time to strike for Murray.
Murray in 4-5, there - I said it! (not sure I believe it though).
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Never a easy road with Djokovic.
Fiji
Legend
Wait, I thought you have been telling us for weeks that Djokovic will win this title because that is what the astrological charts tell you? Why are you changing your tune now and why do you always do that?
Does the astrology tell you Djokovic will win this or not? :-?
The problem for Nole is during his debut match his moon was combust which is bad omen for the final.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
ah, why didn't you tell us earlier though?
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
I don't think anyone can do any kind of scientific prediction here.
It is anyone's match.
Murray is better off winning in 4. Novak may remember Stefan and channel his beast version should it go 5.
It is anyone's match.
Murray is better off winning in 4. Novak may remember Stefan and channel his beast version should it go 5.
Fiji
Legend
I did. But that thread was deleted....
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Since Novak went 5 sets and is now really tired, this means Andy has the Advantage for the final ????????
Fiji
Legend
He had the chance to play a clown like Cilic in the USO final but he blew it...
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Deleted member 77403
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Well at that point, he didn't know that Cilic would be waiting for him.
Everyone was thinking Djokovic V Federer final.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Wait, you will have to help me understand. You were telling us for weeks that Novak was going to win the 2015. NOW you are saying that is not the case and Murray will win because Novak's moon was combust during his debut match. YET, you said this the other day which was AFTER Novak's debut match:
So you are all over the map and you can see how somebody may not think your predictions are reliable right? You can't keep flip flopping. You have to read the astrology charts, make a prediction and stick with it. It is easy to say the astrological forecast changes once you know who the finalists are and you see how a player looks in the SF. That doesn't seem fair. Why can't you look at the astrology and predict the winners and stick with it?
Michael88
Banned
Isn't it obvious? He's saying neither Djokovic nor Murray will win. Better get your bets on Federer and Nadal.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
:lol: Nothing would surprise me with this poster.
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Hopin for Muzza.. he has more interesting game if only slightly.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
You have to be blind to think Murray has a chance. Djokovic is 5% better in every tennis aspect compared to Murray. Whatever Murray does, Djokovic does it slightly better.
Murray can win a set or 2 against him but no chance in hell he wins the final.
Murray can win a set or 2 against him but no chance in hell he wins the final.
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Deleted member 77403
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Muzza has better hands than Nole at the net imo. He might change tactics to win the battle in the forecourt, and use his lobs to keep Djokovic guessing.
Fiji
Legend
I already said here that Nole's debut match was with the moon combust which is not a good omen for the final. MOTWYW. I consider this a stronger case than the POF on his natal Venus.
(so do for Djoko) 
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
You obviously do not know what you are talking about. And you call yourself a tennis pro. More like a tennis 2.0...........:twisted:
FreeBird
Legend
I hope Djokovic to win, at the same time I hate seeing Murray losing another slams final(so do for Djoko)
I hope: Nole
But I feel that Murray is gonna win this
Hey SNowwhite, long time no see..Well, you might not even remember me. :lol:
DownThe Line66
New User
€50 at 3-1 says Murray in 4
If Djokovic is stil in zombie mode, Murray should be able to clean up. He won't just try to power through Djokovic the way Wawrinka did (and subsequently piled up errors). Djokovic will have to play a lot better. But every day is different, so maybe he will. Would suck for Murray to go 0-4 in Australian Open finals. He's been more consistent here than at either of the slams he actually won, where he's only made two finals apiece.
snowwhite
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Surprising poll results, IMO.
The only advantage I see for Murray is the fact that he should be fresher (because of the day off and the fact that Djokovic played a five setter), but even that would be only an excuse for the Djokovic fans (in the end, he played 3 and a half hour, not a five-hour match).
On the other hand, Djokovic has won this title four times - Murray has yet to win his first and he's actually lost to Djokovic three times there (twice in the final). Murray's had his chances and haven't used them, why it would be different this time?
There is a reason why Djokovic won all those matches, this court simply suits his game more than any other, while Murray, even though he's had a great results here in the past, his flat groundstrokes simply don't penetrate through this court as they do on the faster ones (Queens/Wimbledon, Cincinnati, USO).
This reminds me of the Djokovic - Nadal matches at the French Open. People give Djokovic more chances every year, by totally ignoring the history and the fact that he's had five, four or six chances to beat Nadal, but he ends up losing every time. I believe it will be no different this time.
Anyway, may the best man win.
The only advantage I see for Murray is the fact that he should be fresher (because of the day off and the fact that Djokovic played a five setter), but even that would be only an excuse for the Djokovic fans (in the end, he played 3 and a half hour, not a five-hour match).
On the other hand, Djokovic has won this title four times - Murray has yet to win his first and he's actually lost to Djokovic three times there (twice in the final). Murray's had his chances and haven't used them, why it would be different this time?
There is a reason why Djokovic won all those matches, this court simply suits his game more than any other, while Murray, even though he's had a great results here in the past, his flat groundstrokes simply don't penetrate through this court as they do on the faster ones (Queens/Wimbledon, Cincinnati, USO).
This reminds me of the Djokovic - Nadal matches at the French Open. People give Djokovic more chances every year, by totally ignoring the history and the fact that he's had five, four or six chances to beat Nadal, but he ends up losing every time. I believe it will be no different this time.
Anyway, may the best man win.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Yes--that would be another message sent--for all of the TW members believing no woman can coach a man (but in typically hypocritical fashion, never complain about males--ex-players or not--coaching women), Murray winning would throw that back in their faces.
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
No flipping idea who will win - but most definitely, 110%, rooting for MomoMurray.
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
Well said. May it come true!
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