Australian Open 2022 Final: Rafael Nadal vs Daniil Medvedev

Nadal or Med?

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Martin J said:
Well, at least it had some drama. Your guy won so congrats and enjoy the evening/night.
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Maybe we can find a change of pants for some of the fans, son.
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abmk said:
So in the end, the curse of not winning 2nd slam immediately after winning 1st proves to be stronger than nadal losing out at AO final,
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of course it's stronger and it should be clear even before the start of the match..coz nadal already won ao in 09
 
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mightyrick said:
You do realize that the older a sport gets... the more ATGs it has, right? Over time, that is the natural progression. You are talking about GOAT lists. I separate GOATs from ATGs. Certainly, all GOATs are ATGs. But all ATGs are not GOATs.

And I agree, it does depend on your definition. In my mind, for a sport over 100 years old... if you are Top-40 or Top-50 all time... you are an ATG. And that list is going to get longer the older that tennis gets. When tennis gets to be 200 years old, then I expect the Top-100 players all-time will be ATGs.
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Not how it works for me. I like the idea of multiple GOAT’s but that isn’t how I see others talk, seems there is only 1 GOAT and then a bunch of ATG’s. Anyway, all getting a bit technical here.

if I’m honest, I’m not a tennis aficionado - ATG’s to me are big 3, Sampras, Laver, McEnroe, Borg etc.
 
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junior74 said:
Nadal made 17 UEs in the first set, if I remember correctly. Medvedev only 5 or 6. Rafa was the better player in set 2. Then Medvedev lost his legs for 2 hours almost, and with it went his return game - but Rafa was also quite useless, so it became an "epic" due to some wild mistakes from both players :D The level was pretty low, with some great stuff every now and then. A peak Rafa would have won in straight sets. Medvedev is overhyped on TT and he won USO because Novak had the biggest mental breakdown in tennis history. In the end, Rafa is stronger physically and mentally than Medvedev, even at 35.
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But this makes Madlad the future torch bearer for next gen tennis, I see him dominating from next year on the next gen players
 
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TearTheRoofOff said:
Another notch on the Wikipedia bedpost for the illegitimate scourge by virtue of the continuation of unprecedentedly favourable circumstances, ineffective controls and absolutely shagged performance. The days of 'the good tennis' are a thing of the past, which is ironic given to whom the spoils befell on this microcosmically galling day. I expect neither the forest nor the trees to even register on the cognitive radars of those who share the 'whatever it takes' mentality of someone who continues to prosper in spite of the well known adage that posits the reverse. Salt was once a precious commodity, but we must surely soon reach the zenith of its involuntarily scalped inflation in light of the deplorable sporting reality we find ourselves begrudgingly trudging through. Remarkably, the sport's nadir appears ever evasive, perpetually slinking off into the future as the situation continues to submerge deeper into the depths of clockwork clutsterfuckery with the escalating catastrophic failure to produce anything of value.
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Oh man. How can you write something like this? I've no words to describe this. Speechless.
 
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alexio said:
what u think about the match?
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Too many dips in form from both guys for my taste. It had its drama, but Med's level dropped visibly from the second/third set, while Rafa raised his. Nadal was very bad at the start, nerves, pressure. But once again his shotmaking abilities helped him to prevail, I expected him to start to hit the ball batter earlier to be honest.
Don't know what happened to Med, I mean those droppers..for god's sake, lol.

Your thoughts?
 
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I wanted whoever won this match to have earned it. Both of them earned it imo. But I am so happy that Rafa was the winner!

Waiting for Gill Gross on either of his youtube channels to come on and then I am waiting for 1 p.m. when the match is going to be re-broadcast - just don't know if it will be the entire match or an abridged version of it....
 
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zagor said:
Fortunately Rafa won me money this time so I don't have to down the whole copium jar.
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didn't know you're in the biz of betting hah.,how much you placed (if not a secret)...i also placed quite small sum on 4 set rafa win (1,94)
 
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Martin J said:
Too many dips in form from both guys for my taste. It had its drama, but Med's level dropped visibly from the second/third set, while Rafa raised his. Nadal was very bad at the start, nerves, pressure. But once again his shotmaking abilities helped him to prevail, I expected him to start to hit the ball batter earlier to be honest.
Don't know what happened to Med, I mean those droppers..for god's sake, lol.

Your thoughts?
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That’s how i felt about the match as well. I wished both guys had played betterl. Nadal was frankly better off the ground minus the serve after the first set.
 
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zagor said:
I bet very rarely, didn't bet on this match but on Nadal winning the title (as soon as they banned Novak). Bet 250, got around 1k.
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Wow, didn't know you're a serious gambler, you've been hiding it quite well, lol.
 
Harry_Wild

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You trolls, you think you can play over 5 hours of straight tennis after play in two weeks a 3 match set every other day? Ugh, do you?
 
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Enceladus said:
This is the match that Medvedev was supposed to win. The result of the match shows that he does not have the mentality of a champion. Almost everything played in his favor, surface, the worst grand slam for his opponents, a 2-0 lead on sets. Still, he was unable to take advantage of it. Never before in the history of tennis has the young generation been as clueless against old veterans at grandslams as Zverev + Tsitsipas + Medvedev & others.

Nadal won, but Djokovic would beat him if he could play. Last year's Djoker absolutely would not allow him to return to the match. This is the worst possible outcome for the GOAT debate, as it will always raise doubts.
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"Last year's Djoker" literally lost in an embarrassing 3 straight sets to the Mad Lad Medvedev just a few months ago. He also could have just done what all the other players did to play in the tournament. So he lost before round one even started. Djokovic's result at the 2022 aus open was a DQ. Djoker has choked in both of the last two tournaments he had a chance to make untouchable history. There was no guarantee he was winning this tournament either if he participated.
 
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Martin J said:
Too many dips in form from both guys for my taste. It had its drama, but Med's level dropped visibly from the second/third set, while Rafa raised his. Nadal was very bad at the start, nerves, pressure. But once again his shotmaking abilities helped him to prevail, I expected him to start to hit the ball batter earlier to be honest.
Don't know what happened to Med, I mean those droppers..for god's sake, lol.

Your thoughts?
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kudos to rafa to fight till the end like a lion and like it's his last match, nothing to lose. agree with your points, also think that it was med who slipped that away a bit more than rafa won it..didn't see third set and dunno what happened there when it was 3-2 0-40, instead of 3-0 we get 2-3 amazing scenes lol, yea stupid tactics by med and those dropshots after winning first two sets, the question why you still try to do it if you see that that trend doesn't work lol
 
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alexio said:
kudos to rafa to fight till the end like a lion and like it's his last match, nothing to lose. agree with your points, also think that it was med who slipped that away a bit more than rafa won it..didn't see third set and dunno what happened there when it was 3-2 0-40, instead of 3-0 we get 2-3 amazing scenes lol, yea stupid tactics by med and those dropshots after winning first two sets, the question why you still try to do it if you see that that trend doesn't work lol
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Yeah, maybe he was just too tired, can't explain the droppers mania otherwise. Ned is a champion, you can't play like that against him.
 
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Martin J said:
Yeah, maybe he was just too tired, can't explain the droppers mania otherwise. Ned is a champion, you can't play like that against him.
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But nobody expected Nadal to last for 5+ hours. Everybody was doubtful of his fitness if match goes to 3+ hours. I think Medvedev too was thinking the same. That's why he was extending rallies in first three sets instead of going for winners. He dug his own grave making this physical contest. Federer too had to play a five setter against Nadal in 2017 but it was over in little over 3 hours.
 
prairiegirl

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Congrats to Rafa! I've always said that Daniil's fitness would be a long-term problem for him. He is also way too thin for his height. That means he doesn't have a proper height/weight ratio, and this puts an undue amount of stress on his joints and connective tissue. If he doesn't fix this, he may always have this problem.
 
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I am back after ages to savor this moment. What an incredible fighter! Medvedev's game actually suits Nadal. He just doesn't have the legs to cover the court like he used to. But somehow he found enough energy to keep holding his service games and create opportunities on Medvedev's. Netflix documentary will be awesome!
 
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Grizzy said:
"Last year's Djoker" literally lost in an embarrassing 3 straight sets to the Mad Lad Medvedev just a few months ago. He also could have just done what all the other players did to play in the tournament. So he lost before round one even started. Djokovic's result at the 2022 aus open was a DQ. Djoker has choked in both of the last two tournaments he had a chance to make untouchable history. There was no guarantee he was winning this tournament either if he participated.
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1) USO and AO differ in their properties, although they are played on the same surface. That is why I am talking about Djokovic from AO 21.

2) Djokovic played at USO 2021 about CYGS. No tennis player in the last 50 years has been under as much pressure as he has.

3) As a fan of Nole, I claim that he should stop fighting the windmills and take the vaccine, but it is wrong in principle that the biggest favorite was excluded from the competition for non-sporting reasons. This is not a good condition for sports and it calls into question the result of the tournament. A shadow of doubt will forever remain above AO 2022, as will over the Moscow and Los Angeles Olympics. Politics does not belong in sports.
 
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It all started from the time ripping Forehands from 3rd and he started ripping backhands from 4th. If his serve didn't desert him, he would have won in 2nd and easily in 3,4 and 5. Credit to Medvedev for not giving up and I feel commentators hyped up the cramps or whatever,, he was trying other solutions as he was not able to hang on the groundies.
 
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Well, congrats to Nadal! No doubt he’s one of the finest talents and fiercest competitors the sport’s ever seen and there’s a whole bundle of compelling narratives wrapped up in this one slam win. Definitely an iconic moment for the sport and for Rafa in particular. Happy for him that he gets to hold the slam record for at least a little bit (we’ll see how everything plays out from here).
 
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Enceladus said:
Politics does not belong in sports.
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You know, I hear this idealistic statement all of the time. But throughout history, it is always proved to be a fool's errand. Just like a vaccine or a pandemic not being politicized is a fool's errand.

Politics is endemic to everything. You can't avoid it.
 
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