GRASScaraz
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Alcaraz needs to stay humble and let Djokovic try to overplay
Australian Open 2025 QF - [7] Novak Djokovic (SRB) v/s [3] Carlos Alcaraz Garfia (SPN)
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Juice4080
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I don't even think Alcaraz has a stamina advantage over Novak in a single match. Over the course of a tournament, Nole may have increased chances of coming out flat due to fatigue compared to Alcaraz but for a single match? I think Novak has more resolve and ability to manage the inevitable lulls due to fatigue than Carlos has.
TheGoldenEra1990’s
Hall of Fame
Alcaraz straight sets. Djoker just too old. He should be in a retirement facility
If Carlos does lose he should retire. He has no business losing to a near 40 year old while he’s entering his peak years. Sinner or alcaraz shouldn’t be dropping sets period at this point to this mug tour of talentless bums or grandpa Nole. They should be the new Fedal of 2004-2008
Not to mention alcaraz didn’t even have to play 2 sets against crappy Draper. Heck it would be embarrassing if he even lost a set to Djoker truth be told
If Carlos does lose he should retire. He has no business losing to a near 40 year old while he’s entering his peak years. Sinner or alcaraz shouldn’t be dropping sets period at this point to this mug tour of talentless bums or grandpa Nole. They should be the new Fedal of 2004-2008
Not to mention alcaraz didn’t even have to play 2 sets against crappy Draper. Heck it would be embarrassing if he even lost a set to Djoker truth be told
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Djokovic has a point to prove as he is 1-2 in big matches and will not want it to go to 1-3
You would have thought Alcaraz would have worked on choosing the right point to be aggressive but I have seen enough in 4 matches that he is the same player who goes for broke at the first opportunity
I think Djokovic in 4
You would have thought Alcaraz would have worked on choosing the right point to be aggressive but I have seen enough in 4 matches that he is the same player who goes for broke at the first opportunity
I think Djokovic in 4
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
I think court conditions are going to play a huge factor. Carlos has been playing in the daytime heat all week while Novak has mainly had the evening conditions they're going to play in on Tuesday. Not to mention the overall career disparity in RLA experience. Medium paced AO night time is where Novak is the most comfortable, while also being the show court Alcaraz has the least experience on.
I fully expect Novak to break Alcaraz early (possibly the opening game) while Carlos struggles to adapt to the new conditions and find the proper range on his forehand. Alcaraz has come out of the gate serving kind of sloppy in the beginning of a bunch of his matches as it is, and that was without facing a returner anywhere near Djokovic's caliber.
But after the 1st set I suspect it'll be anyone's game. I'll take the 21 year old to eventually adapt and ultimately outlast Djokovic in 5.
I fully expect Novak to break Alcaraz early (possibly the opening game) while Carlos struggles to adapt to the new conditions and find the proper range on his forehand. Alcaraz has come out of the gate serving kind of sloppy in the beginning of a bunch of his matches as it is, and that was without facing a returner anywhere near Djokovic's caliber.
But after the 1st set I suspect it'll be anyone's game. I'll take the 21 year old to eventually adapt and ultimately outlast Djokovic in 5.
I Am Finnish
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Yall gon be cheering Novak in 2034 lol keep it up
Vincent-C
Legend
Only if Fred doesn't come back..
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Changing to alcaraz in five since I don't know anything
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
I know that’s true for the Big 3. I’m not convinced it’s true for Alcaraz yet.
sandiegoman
Semi-Pro
Murray might jump in and play for the Joker if he falls into a slump
Yeah, because each of them (Nole and Carlos) got where they are by quitting when they lose. Nole at 38 is in the second week at a major, where 99.99% of the tennis players never get in their whole career. But he should be in a retirement facility. Well played my man, well played. Please let us know more life tips of yours. Thanks in advance!
TheGoldenEra1990’s
Hall of Fame
No 38 year old should be beating a 21 year old in pro sports. I don’t care how great he used to be. Alcaraz has zero excuse not to put this old dog down especially when he basically just got a bye round LOL
BallisticMissileFonseca
Semi-Pro
can't believe you got the chance to cheer two epic jacked spaniard babolat gunslingers back to back.
plus the new guy is kicking novak's ass into retirement. how does that feel?
BallisticMissileFonseca
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Vincent-C
Legend
It's an interesting QF, no?Idk man, doubting Novak usually backfires. This was me this week
Don't stop now, keep goin'...
Vincent-C
Legend
Djok could maybe get Mrs. Murray to do some world-class cursing [!] on his behalf, instead.
That would be fun, I'd love to see it
Carax
Hall of Fame
It is. It's hard to tell who might win. It doesn't look like Djokovic is fully done yet. If he beat Carlos on clay last year, he might do it on hard at his favorite slam tomorrow.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Djokovic is currently serving well but he was doing that even in Wimbledon 2023 but then Carlos served better in the wind.
Even sinner while facing Carlos has half the times served well and half the times not as well.
Whenever sinner failed to serve above 60% he i think always lost. Djokovic will need to up that even more than 65 at this stage.
Last round Djokovic dropped below 60% while in Olympics final he was at 74%. Cold hard truth that day.
@Winner Sinner
Even sinner while facing Carlos has half the times served well and half the times not as well.
Whenever sinner failed to serve above 60% he i think always lost. Djokovic will need to up that even more than 65 at this stage.
Last round Djokovic dropped below 60% while in Olympics final he was at 74%. Cold hard truth that day.
@Winner Sinner
Vincent-C
Legend
I think / hope it'll be a good match.
McGradey
Hall of Fame
Exciting matchup, with Djokovic having the edge in form so far from what I’ve seen. He looked very sharp, 2023-ish, against Machac, though his physicality wasn’t tested at all.
Alcaraz can make this into a war of attrition if needed and if his game is not firing on all cylinders, this may be what he has to do, because a five setter is not at all ideal for Djokovic these days. Alcaraz has done it before at Wimbledon, he can do it again.
Picking Charles in five. Hope it’s a quality match from both with minimal or no walkabouts from either guy.
Alcaraz can make this into a war of attrition if needed and if his game is not firing on all cylinders, this may be what he has to do, because a five setter is not at all ideal for Djokovic these days. Alcaraz has done it before at Wimbledon, he can do it again.
Picking Charles in five. Hope it’s a quality match from both with minimal or no walkabouts from either guy.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
That's where brains come in.
Carlos has played sometimes brainless going for too much. Why? He can make it was of attrition.
Let's see how he actually plays. More defense or all out attack.
Vincent-C
Legend
Not a bad call at all.
Tallawah Tennis
Semi-Pro
Yah man, cancel all walkabouts at the business end of proceedings, dudes should abstain from such nonsense. Hoping for a cracker of a contest.......
Lauren_Girl'
Hall of Fame
I have the feeling whoever wins this match will be exhausted and may lose against Zverev in semifinal.
I don't know who wins it. Rooting for Djokovic, obviously. I'm just glad to have at least a Djokovic-Alcaraz on a GS HC.
I don't know who wins it. Rooting for Djokovic, obviously. I'm just glad to have at least a Djokovic-Alcaraz on a GS HC.
TheAssassin
G.O.A.T.
An opportunity to make a statement after last year's two Slam atrocities against Alcaraz and Sinner I suppose. Optimistic for this one given his steady improvement with each passing round. Send the silver boy home, Novak.
Vincent-C
Legend
She's such a warm and fuzzy sort..That would be fun, I'd love to see it
Down_the_line
G.O.A.T.
I'm thinking it goes Alcaraz in 5. Djokovic will really push him through 4 sets and then Alcaraz will win a fairly straight forward 5th set to take the match. Djokovic has shown well but as others have said, nobody has really taken it to him. Alcaraz will take it to him.
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Vincent-C
Legend
I'm thinking Djok will do ok.Please no whining from Thinskinovic about alleged poisonings
nolefam_2024
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Return alcaraz is ahead of Djokovic
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Forehand Djokovic is ahead of alcaraz
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Backhand Djokovic is ahead of alcaraz
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Steals alcaraz is ahead of Djokovic
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Attack conversion alcaraz is ahead of Djokovic
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nolefam_2024
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Basically Djokovic has advantage just on serve and normal groundstrokes. But alcaraz has better return and can attack as well as defend better
Djokovic better in neutral.
Djokovic better in neutral.
Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
Alcaraz is the favourite for me in this, but we are talking very slim margins.
The biggest question mark for me is that Alcaraz has never beaten Novak in a hardcourt match before. AO is a pretty tough place to break that duck, particularly because the dead, lifeless conditions don’t allow Alcaraz to show the full spectrum of his game.
Djokovic has been supreme all last week. Its the best he has looked in Australia for probably five years.
With all that said, i’m still taking Alcaraz. I think it’s going to be slightly too tough for Novak to bring the physicality and ultra attacking game required to beat Alcaraz over a long five set match and balance that with the shot tolerance required to maintain consistency and bury Carlitos fully.
Alcaraz has been making lightning fast starts in almost every match. The fear I have for Djokovic is that he will drop 2 of the first three sets and leave hinself with too big a physical challenge to overcome.
The biggest question mark for me is that Alcaraz has never beaten Novak in a hardcourt match before. AO is a pretty tough place to break that duck, particularly because the dead, lifeless conditions don’t allow Alcaraz to show the full spectrum of his game.
Djokovic has been supreme all last week. Its the best he has looked in Australia for probably five years.
With all that said, i’m still taking Alcaraz. I think it’s going to be slightly too tough for Novak to bring the physicality and ultra attacking game required to beat Alcaraz over a long five set match and balance that with the shot tolerance required to maintain consistency and bury Carlitos fully.
Alcaraz has been making lightning fast starts in almost every match. The fear I have for Djokovic is that he will drop 2 of the first three sets and leave hinself with too big a physical challenge to overcome.
Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
Be careful with tennis insights. They use dirty data. I was explaining this to @socallefty yesterday when giving my prediction for the Lehecka match. Some fairly misleading infographics on there because of the metrics they use and how they interpret them.Attack conversion alcaraz is ahead of Djokovic
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nolefam_2024
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How so ? This is based on hawk eye data. On what zones the players played the shots.
Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
Things like extrapolations on RPM data based on total shots rather than totals separated by shot type. They scrape general unverified charting info from 3rd party providers, and then try to apply it to more specific statistical purposes than it is designed to be used for.
sandiegoman
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Hopefully Murray jumps in after a time out and starts hitting heavy balls against Alcaraz
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Wise words.
I have no clue who will win. And THAT is what makes this match so exciting. The unpredictability factor, which is the highest sign of a great rivalry.
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