GodlessEndeavor
Professional
Anyone who has watched Sinner's progression will know that he's a quite different player from a year ago.
Australian Open F: Jannik Sinner vs. Daniil Medvedev
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Anyone who has watched Sinner's progression will know that he's a quite different player from a year ago.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Gone sinner in 4. Changed from sinner in 5. Athough I’d love another epic 5 setter here.
Vamos Carlos Alcaraz
Semi-Pro
One of the things that has seemingly changed for Sinner is that he isn't withdrawing during tournaments due to illness the way he was for really two years. That was retarding his rankings progress for certain. I wonder what changes he and his team have made to prevent all those illnesses that were hampering him?
ActualTennisPlayer
Professional
My take too. Sinner is better player, played a better tournament, is fresher and won the last encounters.. but he might be overwhelmed in his first grand slam final
DIMI_D
Hall of Fame
If this is a 5 set match I believe this AO will hold the record for the most 5 sets played in a grand slam 34 currently which is tied with a few slams as the most ever…
Ps - were u a sinner doubter as well vs your man coming into AO 24
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Odds are out.
70% chance for Sinner to win. He is strong favorite on Sunday. Anyone saying he isn't is fooling you.
With 30% Medvedev has his chances too.
70% chance for Sinner to win. He is strong favorite on Sunday. Anyone saying he isn't is fooling you.
With 30% Medvedev has his chances too.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
My pre-match thoughts:
1. Sinner is ready. The domination against Novak except for the slight hiccup says everything. Old Sinner would not have thrown that hiccup aside. New Sinner threw it aside brilliantly. And his opening up the court with offspeed balls, PLUS his usually cannons from both sides, AND big serving is a lot for anyone to handle. He's going to be tough to beat.
2. Med must be gassed, but I simply won't not give him a chance. Med matches up well with Sinner (you know what I'm saying, as well as a player can), and even though Sinner has finally beat Med (twice) after going 0-6, their matches are always tough. Med is experienced, cagey, willing to go the distance, willing to try things (e.g., the Medberg points in the last game vs. Hurcazk; the closer return position to start the match). I hope he can recover.
Picking Sinner and even think there's a path to a comfortable Sinner win, but I think Med has the capacity to make it interesting, and an outside chance at pulling out a victory should Sinner, for example, get "slappy" and start piling up the errors, and doesn't serve as well at big times as against Novak. Looking forward to it.
1. Sinner is ready. The domination against Novak except for the slight hiccup says everything. Old Sinner would not have thrown that hiccup aside. New Sinner threw it aside brilliantly. And his opening up the court with offspeed balls, PLUS his usually cannons from both sides, AND big serving is a lot for anyone to handle. He's going to be tough to beat.
2. Med must be gassed, but I simply won't not give him a chance. Med matches up well with Sinner (you know what I'm saying, as well as a player can), and even though Sinner has finally beat Med (twice) after going 0-6, their matches are always tough. Med is experienced, cagey, willing to go the distance, willing to try things (e.g., the Medberg points in the last game vs. Hurcazk; the closer return position to start the match). I hope he can recover.
Picking Sinner and even think there's a path to a comfortable Sinner win, but I think Med has the capacity to make it interesting, and an outside chance at pulling out a victory should Sinner, for example, get "slappy" and start piling up the errors, and doesn't serve as well at big times as against Novak. Looking forward to it.
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Vamos Carlos Alcaraz
Semi-Pro
That is my assessment of it as well.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
I went Djokovic in 5 but I respected sinner and knew he was coming good and improving all the time. I thought Djokovic might just hold him off or sinner lack of GS SF experience might cost him. I was completely wrong though and Sinner is ready for the breakthrough and here to stay. A fabulous player with a massive future.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
I went with Djokovic in five as well. I thought we will get AO 2020 Thiem like match. I got a shock n
tennis24x7
Hall of Fame
I am thinking Madlad will unsteady the ship a bit, he is wily
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
That’s cool. I like how we can own up to being wrong. It’s great for the sport to see sinner rise and a different final matchup. Novak will be back but this doesn’t hurt after everything he’s won. This day was coming and I just amazed he’s still competing with these young powerhouses now. Djokovic won’t give up though and he will take a well earned rest now.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
ATP H2H: 6-3 for Meddy (all at HC)
Their 10th anniversary match and first at a Grand Slam. While Jannik lost only one set on the way to the final, Meddy had to go through 3 five-set matches. Although Meddy leads in H2H, Jannik has won the last three mutual matches and I take him as the favorite. For Jannik, it is the first Grand Slam final, for Meddy the sixth and the first where he will not play with Djokodal.
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This could be trouble.. Meddie owns him right now and he will be super determined now he's not playing Novak. He will come out with everything he got even though he's tired. and he knows how to win major finals... whereas for Sinner this is his 1st final and he will be super nervous. and his coach doesn't help either who never even got anywhere close to winning a Major final.
Maybe Sinner should hire Becker for this one match. as Consultant maybe
Becker will do it, he needs the money
Spin Diesel
Hall of Fame
Looking forward to the battle of the heavyweights!
raph6
Semi-Pro
As much as I would like to see Jannik win on Sunday, I think he will lose in 4.
Medvedev is the nightmare matchup for him. Even though he defeated him the last 3 times, it was always highly contested. This time, Medvedev will have the experience on his side and I believe Sinner will encounter difficulties to keep his nerves, like he did in the tiebreak of today’s match. Also, I don’t think Medvedev will show any sign of being tired, today he was a human wall although he had already played 2 other 5 setters.
So Medvedev in 4 is my guess
Medvedev is the nightmare matchup for him. Even though he defeated him the last 3 times, it was always highly contested. This time, Medvedev will have the experience on his side and I believe Sinner will encounter difficulties to keep his nerves, like he did in the tiebreak of today’s match. Also, I don’t think Medvedev will show any sign of being tired, today he was a human wall although he had already played 2 other 5 setters.
So Medvedev in 4 is my guess
pirhaksar
Professional
I called Sinner in 5 mainly because I didn’t like Novak’s body language and physicality as well as form. In most cases he figures out a way and problem solves during the match plus his opponent eventually drops level etc but this Sinner was red hot coming in, you could see it and unless he buckled under the pressure it was not going to happen. Ditto at Wimby last year. Djokovic was patchy in that final but Raz didn’t buckle.
albertobra
Hall of Fame
Meddy is a nightmare matchup for everyone in the tour with his weird, defensive and error free game. But I believe that Sinner knows very well what to do.
Sinner in 3. One tiebreak.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
If he was fit I would have gone 55/45 sinner.
Now though after 21 hrs he will not have error free game.
For me, it’s a 50/50 affair. Both have things going for and against them. Matchup is advantage Medvedev but Sinner has won the last three. Sinner has freshness and less hours advantage. Medvedev has the slam finals experience. I think there is absolutely no favourite here. Match can go either way and it wouldn’t be a surprising result.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
How the heck did Goldie Chainz lose. I saw the first 2 sets and slept. Woke up to see Zedzilla lost. Can't believe it.
Med will be cooked for the final. Sinner should win it. Maybe even easily IMO.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
I really think Sinner blows away Med in straights. Med's going to get wrecked.
At this point it’s not even about the money, I just can’t see that guy lift the trophy.You know what time it is...
Zardoz7/12
Hall of Fame
I want Sinner to win but how will he fare on the biggest stage at a slam final?
Medvedev has the experience of winning and losing at Slam finals.
I think Sinner wins in 4 sets, if he wins then I will go hyperbole and say Sinner could become number 1 in 2024.
Medvedev has the experience of winning and losing at Slam finals.
I think Sinner wins in 4 sets, if he wins then I will go hyperbole and say Sinner could become number 1 in 2024.
Medvedev deserves AO title. He will be greatly inspired by a strong-willed victory over Zverev. I think Medvedev will continue to play aggressively against Sinner because he has no other choice after spending so many hours on the court. And when he plays aggressively against Sinner, it ends badly for the Italian. But I don't remember how he played with Sinner in three defeats against him. Medvedev turned out to be stronger physically than I thought. So I believe in his victory.
NYTennisfan
Hall of Fame
He's a much different player from September even. There's no way that this version of Sinner loses to Zverev in a 4th round match on a hard court.
mental midget
Hall of Fame
i woke up and watched like last 10 min of the match. zverev looked super flat.
said in press conference he caught something after alcaraz match, had a fever...said he basically ran out of gas in the 3rd set and was kind of just hanging on from there.
like i said, didn't see whole match but honestly he seemed like he was being pretty forthright, didn't harp on it but just seemed bummed he couldn't be at his best.
tennisjedi
Hall of Fame
Medvedev in another 5 set thriller.
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
I like med to pick up his second GS title in 4 sets.
Just usual loser excuses. He was good in 3-4 sets, even better than in 1-2 sets.
Vincent-C
Legend
Good call all around.
sportsfan1
Legend
Gotta agree. Sinner came into his match against Novak with a couple of wins over him. Same with Medvedev.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Sinner isn't that player who Med was beating pre Beijing 2023. This Sinner is a human wrecking machine.
Move
Hall of Fame
Look at their last 2 matches
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martinezownsclay
Hall of Fame
Medvedev does not even deserve to be in the final and is only there since Zverev choked. Sinner in 4.
sortof
Hall of Fame
This kind of argument is as stupid as it gets. After his fight over 5 grueling sets playing the final is hard earned and well deserved. Following your logic Zverev didn´t deserve to reach the semis because Raz made it too easy for him, no?
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James P
G.O.A.T.
sortof
Hall of Fame
That´s pretty amazing - almost equivalent to playing two additional matches on the route to the final.
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BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Med admitted to Courier in his on-court interview after the Chainz choke that he was very tired in the third set and his legs were "practically dead." That's why, he said, he started actually coming to net more than usual (which is about twice per match).
I don't think Med's fatigue is going to enter into the final since Sinner is gonna blow him off the court. He's playing some super ball, he deserves this title.
Vincent-C
Legend
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