raftervolley
Rookie
Contrary to all the so called television "experts," I think Medvedev will take Sinner into deep waters and drown him in the fifth set. I think it will be a fun, entertaining, and close match.
Australian Open F: Jannik Sinner vs. Daniil Medvedev
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Vincent-C
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WTF is this?
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Rory says it will be a delectable medley of tennis splendor when Jannik Sinner defeats the ''mad lad'' on Sunday. Which crisis do you fancy?
Sinner beat Djokovic, who didn't enter the court. Everything is fair. Let all the pressure be on Sinner.
Vincent-C
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I'm hoping carrot-top is as composed in the final as he's been so far in the tournament.
He does look like a man on a mission, and he's got good people in his corner, too.
dapchai
Legend
I know Parera.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Rooting for Sinner, but at least a Medvedev win would come with the silver lining of getting to see the best streak in the sport extended. Australia would be unique title #21 for the Russian.
I'm desperate to see how far he can take this before he finally doubles up somewhere.
I'm desperate to see how far he can take this before he finally doubles up somewhere.
ScentOfDefeat
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As things stand, it's pretty simple.
If Sinner wins, he announces himself.
But if Medvedev manages to win, it could be one of the greatest Grand Slam performances of all time.
If Sinner wins, he announces himself.
But if Medvedev manages to win, it could be one of the greatest Grand Slam performances of all time.
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ALCARAZWON
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Most people will predict Sinner because he beat Djokovic, even though Djokovic was nowhere near as good as Medvedev.
They really are opposites, because Medvedev hit a tidy 52 winners and 41 unforced errors, while Djokovic was a disastrous 32 winners and 54 unforced errors.
They really are opposites, because Medvedev hit a tidy 52 winners and 41 unforced errors, while Djokovic was a disastrous 32 winners and 54 unforced errors.
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optic yellow
Legend
so pogged, idc who wins because either make me happy
Technology Ruined Tennis
Hall of Fame
Shame Fed never got to S&V this return position.
Imagine PETE vs the parking lot attendant.
The only way Med would break him is after PETE rolls an ankle after his 75th slam dunk.
Imagine PETE vs the parking lot attendant.
The only way Med would break him is after PETE rolls an ankle after his 75th slam dunk.
Vincent-C
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I never could stand Sampy's 'Slam Dunk' thingie. Tres gauche- and I'm glad Fred took him out at W
with a ROS winner.
nice
James P
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Underrated aspect of this matchup. When it's been Big 3 v non-Big 3 so frequently recently, it's always been a foregone conclusion.
Borg Number One
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I think Sinner is playing too well now. Sinner in 4. His confidence is peaking.
Vincent-C
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Sinner has been looking good out there; let's see if Meddy (whom I like) has anything to say about that. He sure could.
Go, Sinner.
Vincent-C
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Sure could be.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
Understandably, Darren Cahill gets all the @$$-kissing and attention in international media. But he's not really Sinner's coach, as he himself was keen to point out in a recent interview. That role belongs to Simone Vagnozzi (who - fun fact - I nearly double-bageled some 29 years ago), and boy what a job he's done since taking over from Piatti in early 2022. The guy is only 40 (although the years haven't been too easy on him, I must say) but has already put together an impressive resume, having led someone like Stefano Travaglia to the brink of the top 50, and before that, having turned a troubled, blacklisted challenger tour journeyman by the name of Marco Cecchinato into a top 20 player and GS semifinalist. The results both those guys have had since parting with Vagnozzi say a lot about the impact Simone had had on their careers...
Anyhoo, I thought some of you might enjoy this interview, where Vagnozzi talks about the first issue he decided to address upon joining Team Sinner:
the chicken legs!
Anyhoo, I thought some of you might enjoy this interview, where Vagnozzi talks about the first issue he decided to address upon joining Team Sinner:
the chicken legs!
Vincent-C
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Great stuff, BB! Thank you. I wonder what Cahill's exact function is here, then?
signed / out of the loop in Los Osos.
chjtennis
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Meddy is an octopus with 6 heads and keeps coming back to life after getting killed again and again!
I think this will be a long, testing match. Not only the skills but the mental strength, will power and endurance will be tested. Meddy has been tested for those many times before, but what about Sinner? We'll find out. I pick Sinner in 5.
I think this will be a long, testing match. Not only the skills but the mental strength, will power and endurance will be tested. Meddy has been tested for those many times before, but what about Sinner? We'll find out. I pick Sinner in 5.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
Cahill addressed it briefly in today's presser:
"99% of the credit goes to Simone, he is doing a great job with Jannik. My role is a little different these days, I mostly supervise the overall work. Obviously we talk about tactics and some technical aspects, but Simone is 'the voice' "
I think mainly he offers motivation, inspiration, insight into the minds and habits of the greats (having coached/been around so many of them), together with providing a calming influence, telling jokes, and acting as the de facto English teacher of the group.
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ALCARAZWON
Guest
Beating a debutant would be one of the greatest performances of all-time?
Medvedev losing to Nadal in 5 is more impressive than beating Sinner.
Sinner has nothing to his name, especially since Djokovic said it was one of his worst performances ever....
ScentOfDefeat
G.O.A.T.
I'm talking about the tournament as a whole.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
Sinner the overwhelming odds favorite, which I find a bit surprising... Yes, he is on a somewhat legendary tear, and he has owned Medvedev over the past three meetings. But there are a few things worth noting:
Jannik's record in finals is an excellent 10-4, but his record in BIG finals (M100, YEC) isn't great: 1-3, with the lone win coming against his pet pigeon ADM in Canada.
To this point... his ascent has been relentless, but his progress has been mostly step-by-step: had to lose a few Masters finals before he won one, had to lose a few slam quarters before he made a semi, etc.... and had to lose a ton to the top guys before he started beating them.
So is he ready to just seize the moment in his very first time on the biggest stage?
It's also worth noting that, since Medvedev became Medvedev, he's been almost impossible to beat 4 times in a row. The only one who pulled it off was Djoko, who got him 4 straight times after the heartbreaking USO 21 loss.
Jannik's record in finals is an excellent 10-4, but his record in BIG finals (M100, YEC) isn't great: 1-3, with the lone win coming against his pet pigeon ADM in Canada.
To this point... his ascent has been relentless, but his progress has been mostly step-by-step: had to lose a few Masters finals before he won one, had to lose a few slam quarters before he made a semi, etc.... and had to lose a ton to the top guys before he started beating them.
So is he ready to just seize the moment in his very first time on the biggest stage?
It's also worth noting that, since Medvedev became Medvedev, he's been almost impossible to beat 4 times in a row. The only one who pulled it off was Djoko, who got him 4 straight times after the heartbreaking USO 21 loss.
Vincent-C
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federer, nadal, johansson, safin, wilander, kuerten, gaudio, connors, borg, edberg, edmondson, courier, sampras, chang, teacher, kriek, becker, Kodeš, panatta, noah, Gómez, bruguera, muster, kafelnikov, costa, wawrinka, Alcaraz, mcenroe, stich, krajicek, hewitt, rafter, roddick, jmdp, cilic.
First time winners.
Hopefully, can add Sinner to that long list.
I think it has already become one of the greatest. If he wins, it will be the greatest. Nobody won a slam after going 0-2 down twice. And at the same time having another 5-setter. Moreover, to return 2 years after losing the final leading 2-0 and win the title like that. This will be the greatest story.
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BGod
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This will be the first time in Medvedev's entire career I cheer for him in a match. The reasons I listed are sound to me.
1. He's significantly older and I naturally cheer for older players unless I really hate their game or prefer the opponent.
2. He's 0-2 in AO Finals losing to Nadal up 2-0 and getting decimated by Djokovic, so against Sinner I think it's his time and he deserves it.
3. Sinner beat the GOAT in unimpressive fashion and I don't think it's warranted he upends and wins the whole thing.
1. He's significantly older and I naturally cheer for older players unless I really hate their game or prefer the opponent.
2. He's 0-2 in AO Finals losing to Nadal up 2-0 and getting decimated by Djokovic, so against Sinner I think it's his time and he deserves it.
3. Sinner beat the GOAT in unimpressive fashion and I don't think it's warranted he upends and wins the whole thing.
BGod
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Literally 10 Slams I can think off the top with better quality and story. Man oh man the recency bias these days. Just look up Edberg's 92 USO, Becker's 96 AO or Borg's 77 WMB for Slam runs nobody brings up these days that are a head above.
First of all Medvedev is absolutely at Sinner's level and his wins against Zverev and Hurka are nice but it's Zverev and Hurka and Sinner himself hasn't yet won a Slam.
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
It might surprise most but Sinner doesn't hit all that many winners from downtown but he makes other players miss a lot - it is the Djokovic effect. So many have asked years ago why Nole wins so much despite looking so unspectacular. He makes you suffer and look worse. Strange to see that other players seem to miss a lot more if they were playing him.
Daniil was beating Sinner a lot in rallies because he combined a deep court position with great defence and deep flat balls. Big balls from Sinner would be absorbed and returned into neutral zones. Jannik has become more tactical aware, varies a lot more pace, depth and spin and executes better while coming forward to finish like no other top10 at the net. He is also serving the spots better with more variety and disguise.
Daniil can obviously win against Jannik, it is a match of tennis, but he has another mountain to climb.
Rattie
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Because the global audience is bigger than the American one?
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
This is good news for Carrot boy
King_ Zeglan12
Professional
Medvedev will be physically fine IMO maybe not at his top most physical condition but he will be more than good enough to last a 5 set battle
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
I do think Meddy long matches will catch up to him. Sinner is the fresher, playing the better tennis and worked out Meddy of late. I think Meddy will battle hard and won’t make it easy but I see a Sinner 4 set win. I feel it’s his time.
I voted 5 sets as I would love a long classic 5 setter but think Sinner wraps it up quicker.
I voted 5 sets as I would love a long classic 5 setter but think Sinner wraps it up quicker.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Jannick Winner Chicken Dinner
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Thanks, I should also post such reminders more often. Cahill gets rightly praised but where and when does Vagnozzi get his due in the press? At least they shared the coach awards...
Bartelby
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Rattie
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Meaning? You’ve lost me.
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