TheAssassin
G.O.A.T.
I said simmer down bud.
Australian Open SF: Daniil Medvedev vs. Alexander Zverev
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NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Finally you seeing the light, Z is way more likeable than Med and has a better game.
SonicNirvana
Hall of Fame
Welp. Was it?
Ok.
I like him. Kind of wins big matches by sheer will to win and good problem solving. He might be limited in his game - but has this never say die attitude which is a welcome change that 99% of tour misses. No point liking people who choke while being up or show weaknesses when facing adversity like most of the tour.
Very rare players come up with good in pressure points as freq as Medvedev. Gotta appreciate that bit
NYTennisfan
Hall of Fame
Medvedev is only part octopus, he's also part boa constrictor squeezing the life out of his opponent.
I was just scoreboard watching but wasn't surprised in the least that not only Medvedev came back from 2 sets down but that Zverev blew it. This makes me frustrated at Carlos for not taking advantage because Zverev was ready and willing to donate that match to him and Carlos blew it.
I was just scoreboard watching but wasn't surprised in the least that not only Medvedev came back from 2 sets down but that Zverev blew it. This makes me frustrated at Carlos for not taking advantage because Zverev was ready and willing to donate that match to him and Carlos blew it.
NYTennisfan
Hall of Fame
I could see why somebody wouldn't like his tennis but he has a pretty engaging personality. I don't know it's just a matter of preference really, there's no right or wrong.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
Oh man, I didn't watch (had to catch some Zs), but it looks like the Chokemeister finally did deliver that masterpiece... Gonna have to check it out tonight - this smells like a choke for the ages...
EddieChang
Rookie
worse than 2020 us open worse than 2005 french open worse than 1999 french open wrose than 1984 french open? it is worse than 2021 french open but boy you are biased
sbaniak
Rookie
I don’t mean this in a trolly way, I too would like Sinner to win it, but I first read your post and then I saw your name… then I had to chuckle a bit.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
I am a Z fan and this was probably his only chance to finally win a slam and he lost against this Medvedev? I am mad lol
Enceladus
Legend
Yes it is and do you know why? Because Medvedev lost the AO 2022 final, although he already had the experience of achieving a GS triumph and the final was played on his best surface. Zverev, Coria, Tsitsipas paid for inexperience with GS finals and McEnroe lost RG 1984 on clay, which was clearly his worst surface.
EddieChang
Rookie
What i am saying is that there is a lot more to what decides the outcome of the match than mental fortitude. Those finals have more tight sets than this one. This one, you should blame how medvedev ran out of gas against a much older opponent. I did not think med had a chance once he got tired. Did rafa lose to fognini and tsitsipas because of his lack of mental toughness? not necessarily. Also zverev's and coria's losses are almost purely mental, they had service yips
ActualTennisPlayer
Professional
I also dislike medvedev and I can’t understand how he is one of the most popular player on another famous forum.
They love him because of his „honest interviews“ and „octopus style”.
But I see an Ugly style, bad outbursts, some massive chokes, unfair gamesmanship…
Rattie
Legend
Well he is not my favourite by any stretch of the imagination but I admire his resilience and tenacity, his impressive defensive skills, and his ability to force errors from his opponents.
He is very intelligent and has a dry sense of humour and a sharp wit while he says what he thinks and I like that in a person. His interviews are frequently entertaining and funny. On court his sarcasm often amuses me and I don’t find his on court antics anywhere near as annoying as you do nor do I see it as bullying. He has a great friend in Rublev who is one of the nicest guys on tour and I find it hard to imagine Andrey being that close to someone as obnoxious as you see him.
ActualTennisPlayer
Professional
What I find awkward is that Rublev and Med are clearly best friends, but Zverev also claims that Rublev is his best friend.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
Even though it's a good matchup, I was never going to stay up for this. Man, just looking at the score now at work. The Legend of Med grows. Lol. Can someone briefly go through the match arc. What was the break situation in the third and fourth sets - was Zverev up or down breaks before losing those tiebreaks? The tiebreaks looked pretty efficient by Med. Were there crazy errors by Zverev on any points. Thanks.
Thank you. It’s so obvious.
sbaniak
Rookie
Again, I can’t stress enough how that was just a funny observation. I am totally on board with loving the game but still having someone to root for and/ or against.
ActualTennisPlayer
Professional
Only watched first two sets and re-watched the tiebreaks.
First two sets zverev was clearly better, medvedev was super passive and served badly. But you could already feel zverev would not make it in the big moments.
Third set tie break - I think badly played by zverev after 4-3.
Fourth set tie break - zverev was up 5-4 if I remember correctly and serving but got unlucky and medvedev was clutch.
As I said before the match, I firmly believe in matchups. There is a reason why Zverev is a bad matchup for Alcaraz, and Medvedev a bad matchup for Zverev. I dislike Medvedev as much as anyone here, but Zverev going up 2-0 was too good to be true. Somehow I suspected Medvedev will end up grinding him down. The scenario was already predetermined by their history.
His celebration after winning the USO was all class.
Razer
G.O.A.T.
Snowflakes? Disturbing you've said that even if he's found guilty of bashing his ex girlfriend the ATP won't ban him.
Yikes, do you value women than little? Utterly sick.
Yes I won't ban him if I was in ATP.
What he does to women or men is his problem, the woman's problem and the judiciary's. I have no role in taking sides. There are bigger matters to worry about than all this nonsense.
I am not a person to poke my nose like a snowflake..If something affects me directly or even indirectly then I will react....not on strangers whose job is to entertain me.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
I am his fan. Watched him twice live and he was very entertaining.
ActualTennisPlayer
Professional
Honestly zverev loves to have these excuses. And I think it hurts his mental strength. I can imagine he already has those excuses in his head when things aren’t going well and then his loss happens due to a self-fulfilling prophecy.
junior74
Bionic Poster
Med is the better comedian. We just want some good interviews
Zed, when it clicks, has an almost perfect game... I was reminded of it this week, I admit it.
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Baseline_Bungle
Legend
"You callin' me a choker? I'll show you how hard I can choke..."
Ok, it's a joke, everybody relax.
pirhaksar
Professional
Is samprasbruguera a Zed fan?
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Apun94
Hall of Fame
Stop crying, you won with Sinner today
I bet on Medvedev and I’m still upset.
King_ Zeglan12
Professional
Rooted for Zverev in this match even though I like Medvedev more
The match should have never gone to a fifth in the first place, Zverev should have closed it in the 4th set TB
His personal problems apart, I would really like to Zverev win a slam someday
The match should have never gone to a fifth in the first place, Zverev should have closed it in the 4th set TB
His personal problems apart, I would really like to Zverev win a slam someday
Wow, even after such a victory there is hate against Medvedev. How can you not love him after a match like that? It's incomprehensible. So you're not a tennis fan. Medvedev is a great champion. How often have you seen a comeback like this in a slam semis from a non Big 3 player? And what’s most amazing is that this is his 3rd five-setter here. He just became a different player after 2nd set. He began to receive closer to the baseline and became more aggressive. He definitely needs to play like this more often.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Why did Sasha blow it after taking the 1st 2 sets and dominating this skinny dude ?
FD3S
Hall of Fame
While I understand 100% the frustration with Medvedev's grating persona and on-court hissy fits (can't really address the intel you mentioned earlier because that frankly has too much 'nah, trust me bro' energy for my taste) his game, horrifically ugly as it is, asks very difficult questions of his opponents. If their more complete, aesthetically pleasing playstyles fail to measure up at crunch time, that's a them problem.
EDIT: Not at all surprised by this result. After watching Zverev go two sets and a break up on Thiem in the USO final with absolutely dominating tennis and then lose the way he did, I'm not gonna believe he can do it until he does. Put up or shut up.
tenisdecente
Hall of Fame
A happy choke for a happy day. Well done Daniil!
Daniel Andrade
Hall of Fame
A great way of saying that you don't consider hitting your significant other that big of a deal.
tennisfan17
Professional
So so so glad Zverev lost! I do like Medvedev a lot. Genuinely love watching him play and his awkward strokes. Its fun and different compared to watching cookie cutter tennis all the time. Plus like a previous commentor said, if he wins with it and the players with the "more aesthetically pleasing" game can't win, tough. Hope he can be fresh for a good match against Sinner
Hood_Man
G.O.A.T.
pirhaksar
Professional
Ok this is getting very creepy now
Best I can do is mid-court forehand sprayed several feet wide.
Just finished watching the replay of this one. What a comeback from Medvedev! He’s been scary with his back against the wall – first in the Hurkacz match, the way he locked down his serve in the fifth, and then again here, greatly upping his level after going down two sets to love. Got broken five times in those first two sets and then didn’t face a single break point the rest of the match. Looked better and better as the match wore on – not at all like a guy who’s spent almost 21 hours on court. Def Italy can’t count him out of the final.
Daniil, the magician it seems. He seems to be relishing these roller-coaster encounters. If there is a need to illustrate how to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, this match would be a good example. He said post-match interview that he feels proud of his achievements in this tournament, and he should be. Well done to him for getting through. Will his legs / game stand up to Jannik in the final? I'd say 'no', but without conviction because Daniil could once again transform into Houdini, and confound us all.
Poor Sasha. He seemed primed for the win, but it was not meant to be, after all. It must be tough to lose from a winnable position in such an important match. Tough stuff.
Poor Sasha. He seemed primed for the win, but it was not meant to be, after all. It must be tough to lose from a winnable position in such an important match. Tough stuff.
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Hmmm..... I was thinking exactly the same thing. Incredible! I also thought if Sinner wins, he will have beaten two no.1 players.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
The domestic assault creature Zverev is booted from the AO. The men's final is saved from his disgusting presence.
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Bartelby
Bionic Poster
You seem to be making a run for the 'moral conscience of the world"! Who else needs booting out?
