AUXETIC EXTREME MP BALANCE AND WEIGHT ISSUE ON MY RACQUET .. HELP

[danbrenner]

so i have a few extremes
my two most recent.

1. 360+ extreme nite mp stats 11.2 oz and 3pt hl. after setting up with 16g cyclone and og mine weighs 11.36 oz and 3.3 head light.
2. auxetic extreme mp stats 11.2 oz and 4pt hl. after setting up with 16g cyclone and og mine weighs 11.63 oz and 7 head light. SEVEN LOL

yes i checked under the cap for weight. nothing. there was no customization done. i did get it off the bay. but seller is an honest guy. who got this from tw. and just didnt like it.
i have no issue with the seller he even showed me receipt from tw. and racquet came with original base grip. untouched.

so how could this be. this was supposed to be a slight change from the 360+ one head light point. not 3.7 pts difference. its like a totally diff frame.
so has anyone noticed this paging our in house head expert @dr325i ..
have any of you guys bought this one. used poly .. and an og. and been anywhere near the above weight and balance. ? im thinking i just go a lemon. ?? could head qc be this off. ??

 

[jimmy8]

Head qc is not that great. Just put some lead in the hoop.

My head prestige pro 360+ racket is supposed to be 315g, but it's 306g.

 

[danbrenner]

Head qc is not that great. Just put some lead in the hoop.

My head prestige pro 360+ racket is supposed to be 315g, but it's 306g.

lol not that great. that is a disaster. i would return the frame if i could. unacceptable

 

[danbrenner]

Head qc is not that great. Just put some lead in the hoop.

My head prestige pro 360+ racket is supposed to be 315g, but it's 306g.

and that is not the answer. adding weight to the hoop at this static. really changes the frame into something else.

 

[jimmy8]

lol not that great. that is a disaster. i would return the frame if i could. unacceptable

I bought it used off the bay. And I love it, it's my favorite racket. No mods.

 

[danbrenner]

I bought it used off the bay. And I love it, it's my favorite racket. No mods.

im happy it worked out for you. but im not happy with mine. 4 pt head light. 11.2 oz yeah right. its a diff frame entirely.

 

[HitMoreBHs]

If you take out the weighted buttcap (7g = 0.25oz) on the heavier racquet, it becomes close to the same weight, and balance point will be 4.8pts headlight. If the swingweights are close, this difference in weight (0.02oz) and balance (1.5pts) will likely be unnoticeable during play unless you're especially sensitive.

 

[danbrenner]

If you take out the weighted buttcap (7g = 0.25oz) on the heavier racquet, it becomes close to the same weight, and balance point will be 4.8pts headlight. If the swingweights are close, this difference in weight (0.02oz) and balance (1.5pts) will likely be unnoticeable during play unless you're especially sensitive.

Stock they don’t come with weighted butt caps. I’ll check the cap when I get home. But I don’t think it’s a weighted one.

 

[HitMoreBHs]

Stock they don’t come with weighted butt caps. I’ll check the cap when I get home. But I don’t think it’s a weighted one.

If you have this trapdoor, it's 7g (so that it can be swapped out for a Zepp sensor).

If you haven't got that, then something isn't right since that has been the standard trapdoor since Graphene Touch.

 

[dr325i]

so i have a few extremes
my two most recent.

1. 360+ extreme nite mp stats 11.2 oz and 3pt hl. after setting up with 16g cyclone and og mine weighs 11.36 oz and 3.3 head light.
2. auxetic extreme mp stats 11.2 oz and 4pt hl. after setting up with 16g cyclone and og mine weighs 11.63 oz and 7 head light. SEVEN LOL

yes i checked under the cap for weight. nothing. there was no customization done. i did get it off the bay. but seller is an honest guy. who got this from tw. and just didnt like it.
i have no issue with the seller he even showed me receipt from tw. and racquet came with original base grip. untouched.

so how could this be. this was supposed to be a slight change from the 360+ one head light point. not 3.7 pts difference. its like a totally diff frame.
so has anyone noticed this paging our in house head expert @dr325i ..
have any of you guys bought this one. used poly .. and an og. and been anywhere near the above weight and balance. ? im thinking i just go a lemon. ?? could head qc be this off. ??

All rackets are hand made and they have tolerances. They all go through QC and have passed within allowable margins.

Your “stats” number is the spec on the racket? If so, that is unstrung spec.

I do agree that being off by 3pt is quite a bit but possible to get it closer with some customization.

I am not sure you will be able to “lemon” it though.

 

[danbrenner]

If you have this trapdoor, it's 7g (so that it can be swapped out for a Zepp sensor).

If you haven't got that, then something isn't right since that has been the standard trapdoor since Graphene Touch.

It’s got that. But that doesn’t do anything because all of my other ones have that too they all have the 7 g trap door that’s how they come stock.

 

[danbrenner]

All rackets are hand made and they have tolerances. They all go through QC and have passed within allowable margins.

Your “stats” number is the spec on the racket? If so, that is unstrung spec.

I do agree that being off by 3pt is quite a bit but possible to get it closer with some customization.

I am not sure you will be able to “lemon” it though.

The stats that I put down are for strung. A 3 point headlight difference is not a question of quality control, but just a different racket. And the weight difference is also evident there’s obviously too much weight towards the handle.

 

[HitMoreBHs]

It’s got that. But that doesn’t do anything because all of my other ones have that too they all have the 7 g trap door that’s how they come stock.

I was just trying to be helpful with suggesting how you might get the two racquets closer to each other spec-wise. The QC is off on the heavier stick, but it’s still relatively easy to get both matched to each other. Taking out the weighted trapdoor is one way since most of the weight excess in that racquet is at the buttend of the hairpin.

If the weight difference is at the hoop end, there’s a much bigger effect on how the racquet plays compared with weight variance at the buttend. I treat the weighted buttcap in HEAD racquets as a helpful, disposable means of adjusting weight and balance in my racquets; even if it wasn’t HEAD’s design intention.

 

[danbrenner]

I was just trying to be helpful with suggesting how you might get the two racquets closer to each other spec-wise. The QC is off on the heavier stick, but it’s still relatively easy to get both matched to each other. Taking out the weighted trapdoor is one way since most of the weight excess in that racquet is at the buttend of the hairpin.

If the weight difference is at the hoop end, there’s a much bigger effect on how the racquet plays compared with weight variance at the buttend. I treat the weighted buttcap in HEAD racquets as a helpful, disposable means of adjusting weight and balance in my racquets; even if it wasn’t HEAD’s design intention.

Excellent point. So I could go on Tennis Warehouse and just buy a trap door that’s as light as possible. Do they make one or 2 g trapdoors?

 

[HitMoreBHs]

There’s a HEAD buttcap without the metal cylinder weight:
Head Standard Butt Cap Glossy Black

It weighs 3g, so if you want the full 7g reduction, this is not ideal. You can make your own negligible weight trapdoor simply by tracing the buttcap on a piece of card or plastic and cutting it to size. I use the plastic lid from my favourite ice cream brand.

You might find that as your game evolves, you end up adding weight to the handle of the lighter racquet instead. The Extreme MP is such a manoeuvrable stick that it plays well in a heavier set up.

I understand we all have different points of view on racquet specs and setups, and the QC lottery is a major annoyance, especially with racquets costing to much these days. However, the difference between your two racquets would not trouble me, especially if the swingweights (reflection of the hoop weight) are similar. As I said above, hoop variance is a far bigger issue and much more noticeable than buttend variance.

 

[danbrenner]

There’s a HEAD buttcap without the metal cylinder weight:
Head Standard Butt Cap Glossy Black

It weighs 3g, so if you want the full 7g reduction, this is not ideal. You can make your own negligible weight trapdoor simply by tracing the buttcap on a piece of card or plastic and cutting it to size. I use the plastic lid from my favourite ice cream brand.

You might find that as your game evolves, you end up adding weight to the handle of the lighter racquet instead. The Extreme MP is such a manoeuvrable stick that it plays well in a heavier set up.

I understand we all have different points of view on racquet specs and setups, and the QC lottery is a major annoyance, especially with racquets costing to much these days. However, the difference between your two racquets would not trouble me, especially if the swingweights (reflection of the hoop weight) are similar. As I said above, hoop variance is a far bigger issue and much more noticeable than buttend variance.

I appreciate your input. And attention to detail. But I am not a fan of such a variance, especially when I do like the hoop to be more substantial. So I’m gonna get rid of this one. Pisses me off to the point of selling. I have never seen a variance of this degree with any racquet I have ever owned.

 

[TennisHound]

I appreciate your input. And attention to detail. But I am not a fan of such a variance, especially when I do like the hoop to be more substantial. So I’m gonna get rid of this one. Pisses me off to the point of selling. I have never seen a variance of this degree with any racquet I have ever owned.

Were you able to sell this one?

 

[danbrenner]

I didn’t try yet. Why. Are you interested

 

[ChanterRacquet]

so i have a few extremes
my two most recent.

1. 360+ extreme nite mp stats 11.2 oz and 3pt hl. after setting up with 16g cyclone and og mine weighs 11.36 oz and 3.3 head light.
2. auxetic extreme mp stats 11.2 oz and 4pt hl. after setting up with 16g cyclone and og mine weighs 11.63 oz and 7 head light. SEVEN LOL

Your specs don’t make any sense. You added a nominal 15 g of string plus OG but your weight only went from 11.2 to 11.36 oz? That’s not even 5 g.

Even the increase from 11.2 to 11.63 is only 12 g, still not enough for just the strings.

Mine auxEMP without strings
303 g (10.69 oz)
32.1 cm (almost 7 pts HL)
sw 285

Mine with strings
319g (11.25 oz)
33.0 cm (4 pts HL)
sw 321

The reason mine becomes less headlight is because I’m only adding strings (the OG would either be already on for both or not, probably not).

The strung demo before buying was:
314 g (11.07 oz)
33.2 cm (3.4 pts HL)
sw 320

 

[danbrenner]

Your specs don’t make any sense. You added a nominal 15 g of string plus OG but your weight only went from 11.2 to 11.36 oz? That’s not even 5 g.

Even the increase from 11.2 to 11.63 is only 12 g, still not enough for just the strings.

Mine auxEMP without strings
303 g (10.69 oz)
32.1 cm (almost 7 pts HL)
sw 285

Mine with strings
319g (11.25 oz)
33.0 cm (4 pts HL)
sw 321

The reason mine becomes less headlight is because I’m only adding strings (the OG would either be already on for both or not, probably not).

The strung demo before buying was:
314 g (11.07 oz)
33.2 cm (3.4 pts HL)
sw 320

I explained it wrong. The first star is to show what tw lists it at strung.

 

[Irvin]

1. 360+ extreme nite mp stats 11.2 oz and 3pt hl. after setting up with 16g cyclone and og mine weighs 11.36 oz and 3.3 head light.
2. auxetic extreme mp stats 11.2 oz and 4pt hl. after setting up with 16g cyclone and og mine weighs 11.63 oz and 7 head light. SEVEN LOL

That’s not possible. You racket can not get lighter in the head after adding string. The balance point always moves toward the weight added. 16 gauge cyclone weighs 9 g in one racket and 17 g in the other? Check your specs again.

 

[ChanterRacquet]

I explained it wrong. The first star is to show what tw lists it at strung.

Gotcha, that makes sense. I’ve moved on from mine. If you’re interested in an auxEMP with the specs I quoted, hit me up. I wasn’t planning on selling/trading but it’s just sitting in the bag, still very good condition.