sftennisfan
New User
Anyone playing with anything less than 93? Anyone playing with anything greater than 100?
Average and smallest racquet head size on tour
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sftennisfan
New User
Funny but I've played with a Yonex 98 and a Wilson that was 95 and they really seemed the exact same to me.
Znak
Hall of Fame
I believe Serena is playing with her new 102
Nadal, and all those who use iterations of Pure Aero are as well at 100.
Please don't confuse with Aero VS.
Also, I believe that the PD users are at 100.
Again, don't confuse with PD VS.
haqq777
Legend
Switched to PT57A a few years back.
Moonballballer
Semi-Pro
Hes playing radical now, so probably only Kamke left with a real prestige mid.
haqq777
Legend
You are correct. TGK161 LM Instinct was promoted as 100/645 but was actually 102/656, so a bit bigger.
racquetreligion
Hall of Fame
Gasquet is the only single BH player at the top with a 100+ frame & looks longer as well.
F Lo I think also plays with a 100 now but used to be a rare willy 96 at one stage.
The rest of the one handed BHs are 95 at the top eg. Stan, Shapo, Evans, Kohls in that order
Babo PS, Willy and Head popular units seem to be all very similar with aero oval tubing
rather than Evan and Kohs still using square tubing. Shapos sv95 is the most powerful
small racquet out of all the 95 inch frames it has serous pop for its size.
F Lo I think also plays with a 100 now but used to be a rare willy 96 at one stage.
The rest of the one handed BHs are 95 at the top eg. Stan, Shapo, Evans, Kohls in that order
Babo PS, Willy and Head popular units seem to be all very similar with aero oval tubing
rather than Evan and Kohs still using square tubing. Shapos sv95 is the most powerful
small racquet out of all the 95 inch frames it has serous pop for its size.
Bender
G.O.A.T.
Well then clearly I’m mistaken, thanks for the correction
Villain
Professional
According to our friend Tennisnerd, the average ATP head size is 97.4, WTA is 100.1. I think Cilic still plays with a 93, but most are 95-100 with maybe Gasquet’s 102 Head Instinct being the largest.
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dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Hasse is using the PT307.1
98 sq in, Radical mold with the PT10 layup
haqq777
Legend
Cool. I think @vsbabolat mentioned PT57A but might have just been testing frames at the point.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
He did use it for a while and then last year changed to radical
BlueB
Legend
Cilic is 95, I believe.According to our friend Tennisnerd, the average ATP head size is 97.4, WTA is 100.1. I think Cilic still plays with a 93, but most are 95-100 with maybe Gasquet’s 102 Head Instinct being the largest.
ATP vs WTA Racquets
I often get the question if recreational players should copy WTA player specs over the more demanding ATP specs. Let's look into ATP vs WTA racquets.
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dr325i
G.O.A.T.
93. TGT312
Villain
Professional
Original Graphene Prestige Rev Pro right?
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Correct
BlueB
Legend
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
2014 during USO that he won...
Faris
Professional
Cilic switched from his 231 to the TGT312 sometime in early 2015, most likely while coming back from his shoulder injury that forced him out of the AO 2015 as @El_Yotamo pointed out.. He won the USO using his 231. Here is a link to lots of photos showing it and whole thread talking in length...
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I guess Head guys are clueless about what they sent to him during USO 2014
Faris
Professional
Or maybe they sent you on a wild goose chase which seems to be the case here. Look at photos and look at what has been posted again..just because you claim you were told something by Head guys doesn't mean your word should be taken and especially if all evidence points to contrary...
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Don’t need to look at anything. They have records dating back to the 90s. They found @vsbabolat in their records when he played on tour...
Ask your buddy to share the text I showed him
Faris
Professional
Not saying they don't have records however everything proves that it wasn't a 312 he was using at USO 2014. The text you mentioned, well I saw that but it was more of like someone sent a PM here with zero proof of sender or receiver name etc...Not doubting you or your sources however I will go by photo evidence.. ThanksDon’t need to look at anything. They have records dating back to the 90s. They found @vsbabolat in their records when he played on tour...
Ask your buddy to share the text I showed him
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Sounds good!
BlueB
Legend
I think there are quite a few 95ers. Besides the obvious ones, there's a lot of Head paint jobs of pro stock.
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2nd Serve Ace
Hall of Fame
Fair amount of 6.1 95s out there as well.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Cilic, Shapo. Can't think of any other 95ers.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Cilic is using 93. For 95 you have so many such as Djokovic, Andy Murray, Simon, Cuevas, Jamie Murray to name a few
haqq777
Legend
I don't mean to drag this on, it has already been talked about ad nauseam. However, just for a brief moment, forget what Head told you. Forget about the player using the racquet. Forget about venue, what clothes he is wearing, etc. Forget everything else and just have a look at his racquet here:
Looking at the throat grommet here. Look at the throat shape. Can you honestly tell me it is 312? There are pictures of him using a 312 as well if you want I can post them too and those have the Rev Pro throat grommets, as well as a very clear Y shape. I won't say any further, you are very well versed in all things pro stocks. But this is something even I can identify.
I feel like there has been some miscommunication between you and HEAD and I would definitely check/verify again. You are great source of knowledge for sure but after looking at pictures myself I too have come to the conclusion that Cilic was using his older 231 at USO 2014.
Nate7-5
Hall of Fame
Hold them next to each other - it isnt that big of a difference
Nate7-5
Hall of Fame
Stan 95
He swiched to MP long ago.
There are many using 95 (Djoker, Andy, Stan and others).
El_Yotamo
Hall of Fame
There's 6 players in the top 20 alone at 95...
#1: Djokovic
#11: Bautista Agut
#13: Schwartzman
#15: Wawrinka
#17: Shapovalov
#19: Garin
The average in the ATP top 20 is 97.4 by my calculations. You can check if you want but I don't have the energy to list all of them and show the entire calculation here.
I also just happened to waste my time in calculating the top 100, got 97.78 for the average. So there ya go.
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Moonballballer
Semi-Pro
El_Yotamo
Hall of Fame
He uses a special mold, Graphene Radical throat with YT Radical head. So a 95
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Alexh22
Professional
Looks like a Youtek so 95.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
PT313.2, 95 sq in
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
It is not prestige head. The head is 21.5mm beam and not prestige (square beam) shape.
it is 95sq in head More like TK260 shape/beam.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Looks nothing like any Youtek frame
More like combo of Graphene and YT radical molds
