Average opponent rank (geometric mean)

Lew II

Hall of Fame
#1
Career:

Djokovic 23.4
Federer 26.9
Nadal 27.0

Big Tournaments:

Djokovic 19.9
Federer 21.6
Nadal 22.0

Grand Slam:

Djokovic 26.7
Federer 28.4
Nadal 29.6

Tournaments won:

Djokovic 18.7
Nadal 25.0
Federer 25.1

Big Tournaments won:

Djokovic 15.6
Federer 18.2
Nadal 19.4

Grand Slam won:

Djokovic 20.3
Nadal 22.8
Federer 25.3
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
#7
Guys don't respond and see what he does.

If you notice, all his threads follow the same pattern:

1) post cherry-picked stats with an implication in the topic
2) leave everyone point at various obvious problems
3) fuel the reaction with some more erraneous comments
4) engage with a logical fallacy, more cherry-picked stats or straight up ignoring the points already being made
5) rinse and repeat

:cool:
 
#9
Guys don't respond and see what he does.

If you notice, all his threads follow the same pattern:

1) post cherry-picked stats with an implication in the topic
2) leave everyone point at various obvious problems
3) fuel the reaction with some more erraneous comments
4) engage with a logical fallacy, more cherry-picked stats or straight up ignoring the points already being made
5) rinse and repeat

:cool:
I genuinely hadn't seen your post before I posted mine, but yes, these are my thoughts exactly.
 
#15
It just goes to show that when people say that Nadal gets 'easy' draws that it is not true. In fact Fed gets the nod when it comes to easy draws.
Well, a bit but not by any important margin. You are talking the average being at most about 5 spots of ranking, or the difference of playing saying Busta Agut (25) or David Goffin (20) currently. It also doesn't account for any higher level players that maybe had dropped. If Nadal or Djo played Fed in 2016 that would count as a 17th ranked player, but...it's Fed. And that would be across the board for all players who may be dangerous but in a ranking slump or coming back from injury.

Again, really the idea of consisten easy draws is silly. Sure, sometimes any of the three have a bit easier road, but as they say...it really is the luck of the draw.

Everything else is just fanbio player justification and posturing.
 

Lew II

Hall of Fame
#16
Well, a bit but not by any important margin. You are talking the average being at most about 5 spots of ranking, or the difference of playing saying Busta Agut (25) or David Goffin (20) currently.
This is the geometric mean, not the arithmetic average.

It gives more weigth to small numbers (high ranking).

For example

1, 1, 1, 1, 100
arithmeric average: 20.8
geometric mean: 2.5

10, 10, 10, 10, 10
arithmetic average: 10
geometric mean: 10
 
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#18
That's because you have in about 250 different ways. Some even the same probably if we look close enough.
Guys don't respond and see what he does.

If you notice, all his threads follow the same pattern:

1) post cherry-picked stats with an implication in the topic
2) leave everyone point at various obvious problems
3) fuel the reaction with some more erraneous comments
4) engage with a logical fallacy, more cherry-picked stats or straight up ignoring the points already being made
5) rinse and repeat

:cool:

 

Lew II

Hall of Fame
#21
Average opponent rank in Slam finals/semifinals:

Djokovic 3.9
Nadal 4.8
Federer 5.1

in Slams won (F/SF):

Djokovic 4.4
Nadal 4.8
Federer 7.6

In Big Tournament finals/semifinals:

Djokovic 4.7
Nadal 5.8
Federer 5.9

in BT won (F/SF):

Djokovic 5.3
Nadal 6.6
Federer 7.3
 

Lew II

Hall of Fame
#22
Average opponent rank in Slam finals/semifinals:

Djokovic 3.9
Nadal 4.8
Federer 5.1

in Slams won (F/SF):

Djokovic 4.4
Nadal 4.8
Federer 7.6

In Big Tournament finals/semifinals:

Djokovic 4.7
Nadal 5.8
Federer 5.9

in BT won (F/SF):

Djokovic 5.3
Nadal 6.6
Federer 7.3
Notice that in tournaments won F/SF, the ranking of the opponent is lower than in overall tournaments F/SF, except for Nadal in Slams (equal 4.8).

To show that higher ranking means tougher opposition.
 
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