Azarenka in big trouble!

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
Well, yeah. But then again . . .

She didn't *have* to wear that dress. I'm sure her contract says she does, but I also think she could have and should have done something different.

Also, I do wonder why these players practice before their matches under these circumstances. Did you see her whiff that serve in the fourth game of the match? That's heat for ya. I think the damage was likely done in yesterday's practice and this morning's practice, and she didn't know it until Game 3.
 

tennis_balla

Hall of Fame
TW Forum members showing their true colours once again. You'd figure with so much 'intelligence' on this board why aren't they all out there playing and coaching at the pro level. Stop being attention wh*res guys, hiding behind your screen names.

Anyways, never good to see a player collapse like that. They mentioned on tv that she fell during her pre-match warm up, something is definitely going on and its not because she's unfit or wore black.
Hope she gets well soon.
 

pmerk34

Legend
Well, yeah. But then again . . .

She didn't *have* to wear that dress. I'm sure her contract says she does, but I also think she could have and should have done something different.

Also, I do wonder why these players practice before their matches under these circumstances. Did you see her whiff that serve in the fourth game of the match? That's heat for ya. I think the damage was likely done in yesterday's practice and this morning's practice, and she didn't know it until Game 3.

I saw her live at the Open on Monday she had a black dress on then and it was brutal out although maybe less humid...
 

30fifteen

New User
As of now, there is still NO official word on her current condition. Why do we not know yet? Something doesn't add up. There seems to be a conspiracy.
 

ice812

New User
USTA just said that she is in hospital for tests but are not saying much more. They said she had headache like symptoms and that what happened was not entirely heat related. If it is a case of food poisoning, I can only imagine how I would feel being on a tennis court in 100+ degree weather.
 

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
They issued a statement saying that, due to privacy concerns, they're not saying. They say it was not heat illness.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Unless she is pregnant, I say it was heat illness.

During the broadcast, Navritilova said she saw Azarenka in the locker room before the match, and she seemed normal and bubbly.

Unless she fell and hit her head during practice before the match, I'm going with heat stroke. I hope she is OK. I actually do like her and wanted her to win her first major. I saw her at Indian Wells last year. Her footwork was incredible.
 

ice812

New User
They issued a statement saying that, due to privacy concerns, they're not saying. They say it was not heat illness.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Unless she is pregnant, I say it was heat illness.

During the broadcast, Navritilova said she saw Azarenka in the locker room before the match, and she seemed normal and bubbly.

Unless she fell and hit her head during practice before the match, I'm going with heat stroke. I hope she is OK. I actually do like her and wanted her to win her first major. I saw her at Indian Wells last year. Her footwork was incredible.

We may not find out what really happened but it still sucks that she is out because of injury or illness.

I don't care who the player is, if you like them or not, it's never good seeing someone go down for either of those reasons. They want to do their best and we love watching a good match.
 

30fifteen

New User
It just seems once Azarenka is posed to win a slam, something like this happens. Is someone out to get her? I believe whoever made her put on that deadly black dress is the prime suspect.
 

moonbat

Semi-Pro
They issued a statement saying that, due to privacy concerns, they're not saying. They say it was not heat illness.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Unless she is pregnant, I say it was heat illness.

During the broadcast, Navritilova said she saw Azarenka in the locker room before the match, and she seemed normal and bubbly.

Unless she fell and hit her head during practice before the match, I'm going with heat stroke. I hope she is OK. I actually do like her and wanted her to win her first major. I saw her at Indian Wells last year. Her footwork was incredible.

That was my thought as well. Hope it's not that serious.
 

Kunohara

Professional
They issued a statement saying that, due to privacy concerns, they're not saying. They say it was not heat illness.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Unless she is pregnant, I say it was heat illness.

During the broadcast, Navritilova said she saw Azarenka in the locker room before the match, and she seemed normal and bubbly.

Unless she fell and hit her head during practice before the match, I'm going with heat stroke. I hope she is OK. I actually do like her and wanted her to win her first major. I saw her at Indian Wells last year. Her footwork was incredible.

Alright.

But I'll laugh when it is known that it wasnt heat that caused this. :p
 

Fee

Legend
I believe that as soon as she got into the ambulance, her health condition fell under the US HIPA laws, so neither the USTA nor the WTA can say what is going on with her until she gives them permission. They can say what it is not, so if they are saying it is not heat related, then she must have told them something in the training room to rule that out, or the trainer assessed her and she did not show signs of heat stroke.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
If it was a heat thing, it is possible the officials are putting a lid on it. Plenty of bad press about the AO for making players play in the heat. They had to come up with a heat rule. Fear of liability and bad press may be a factor here.
 

moonbat

Semi-Pro
They issued a statement saying that, due to privacy concerns, they're not saying. They say it was not heat illness.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Unless she is pregnant, I say it was heat illness.

During the broadcast, Navritilova said she saw Azarenka in the locker room before the match, and she seemed normal and bubbly.

Unless she fell and hit her head during practice before the match, I'm going with heat stroke. I hope she is OK. I actually do like her and wanted her to win her first major. I saw her at Indian Wells last year. Her footwork was incredible.

Maybe that's why Ernie went out early. Surprise!
 

moonbat

Semi-Pro
If it was a heat thing, it is possible the officials are putting a lid on it. Plenty of bad press about the AO for making players play in the heat. They had to come up with a heat rule. Fear of liability and bad press may be a factor here.

I guess that's called "preemptive damage control."
 

OKUSA

Hall of Fame
Commentator just said that she hit her head while working out in the gym this morning and that contributed to her condition
 

moonbat

Semi-Pro
Commentator just said that she hit her head while working out in the gym this morning and that contributed to her condition

Uh-oh....as someone who lost a close family member to a cerebral hemorrhage sustained after a fall, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she's OK.:(
 
We may not find out what really happened but it still sucks that she is out because of injury or illness.

I don't care who the player is, if you like them or not, it's never good seeing someone go down for either of those reasons. They want to do their best and we love watching a good match.

A-f'n men. After watching the qualifying tournament at Cincy and seeing how those players were scratching and clawing just trying to get in the draw, I decided never to cheer against someone.
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
It just seems once Azarenka is posed to win a slam, something like this happens. Is someone out to get her? I believe whoever made her put on that deadly black dress is the prime suspect.
Will y'all cut that crap now? It has already been confirmed that the heat wasn't a direct cause so blaming the dress is no longer an available excuse.

Although wearing black on such a day is not a smart thing to do, the whole idea that someone will go all the way and collapse by overheating just because of wearing a black skirt is laughably absurd. The commentators are simply shooting their mouth off suggesting this nonsense only because they have nothing else to say during such awkward moments (which shows their lack of broadcast talent).
 

Fee

Legend
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/articles/2010-09-01/201009011283370107962.html

Statement from US Open Tournament Referee Brian Earley

Wednesday, September 1, 2010
Statement from US Open Tournament Referee Brian Earley on Victoria Azarenka's retirement:
"Victoria Azarenka retired from her match with headache-like symptoms. She was taken to a nearby hospital for diagnostic testing. Out of respect to her privacy, we cannot give any more details. However, we can say that this does not seem to be primarily a heat-related illness."
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1886/does-black-clothing-keep-you-cooler

What this means is relatively straightforward: black clothing absorbs sunlight and the heat radiating from your body, but if it is loose-fitting, and there is wind, the wind convects the heat away faster than it is absorbed. White clothing reflects sunlight, but also reflects internal heat back towards your body, so the net effect under identical conditions is less cooling than if you wore black. While it's true you don't often find fluffy black animals in deserts, you don't find many white animals, either--typically you find animals that blend into the background. So it appears that if heat gain and camouflage are in conflict, the need to avoid predation outweighs other considerations. On the other hand, desert-dwelling nomadic people such as the Tuaregs wear loose-fitting black clothing, and have been doing so for a very, very long time. If there were an advantage to wearing white clothes, you'd certainly expect they'd have figured that out by now.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Yea, you of all people of course know a thing or two about being suddenly and mysteriously sick while facing an important match :)

Know firsthand the exact feeling of hypoglycemia and dehydration, as this occurred two days ago. Dizzyness and your legs feel like wet noodles. Didn't this previously happen at the AO against Serena?
 

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
I believe that as soon as she got into the ambulance, her health condition fell under the US HIPA laws, so neither the USTA nor the WTA can say what is going on with her until she gives them permission. They can say what it is not, so if they are saying it is not heat related, then she must have told them something in the training room to rule that out, or the trainer assessed her and she did not show signs of heat stroke.

Or . . .

It was originally heat related, but now it is something else. Heart problem. Kidney problem. Head trauma when she fell (her head did hit the court, but it didn't look like a big deal).

Regarding wearing black v. wearing white. Come on. We all play tennis. I know when I wear a black bottom and white top, I can actually feel the difference. There was very little wind on the court, so even if wind would help you out when wearing black that would not be the case here.

I mean, the first thing that happens when I get overheated is a headache.

Just sayin' . . . .
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1886/does-black-clothing-keep-you-cooler

What this means is relatively straightforward: black clothing absorbs sunlight and the heat radiating from your body, but if it is loose-fitting, and there is wind, the wind convects the heat away faster than it is absorbed. White clothing reflects sunlight, but also reflects internal heat back towards your body, so the net effect under identical conditions is less cooling than if you wore black. While it's true you don't often find fluffy black animals in deserts, you don't find many white animals, either--typically you find animals that blend into the background. So it appears that if heat gain and camouflage are in conflict, the need to avoid predation outweighs other considerations. On the other hand, desert-dwelling nomadic people such as the Tuaregs wear loose-fitting black clothing, and have been doing so for a very, very long time. If there were an advantage to wearing white clothes, you'd certainly expect they'd have figured that out by now.
There ye go. Science has spoken. The difference would only mean you'll sweat more, not that you'll save your life.

After all, if the difference between black and white was a matter of life and death then during the summer all the eagles and the crows and the ducks and (non-white) pigeons would be collapsing out of the sky and falling over our heads :)
 

Cloudy

Semi-Pro
if she had a head injury they should have taken her off court on a stretcher surely and not in a wheel chair.
 

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
There ye go. Science has spoken. The difference would only mean you'll sweat more, not that you'll save your life.

After all, if the difference between black and white was a matter of life and death then during the summer all the eagles and the crows and the ducks and (non-white) pigeons would be collapsing out of the sky and falling over our heads :)

Have you ever run around in extreme heat wearing a black dress?

Didn't think so. ;)

Venus is about to beat someone wearing a black dress. Berdych wore black. Spooky, eh?

Wear black during the day in Australia or New York and you're signing your own death warrant. :)

Cindy -- who has to play in the heat again tomorrow and who is laundering her whites right now
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Regarding wearing black v. wearing white. Come on. We all play tennis. I know when I wear a black bottom and white top, I can actually feel the difference. There was very little wind on the court, so even if wind would help you out when wearing black that would not be the case here.

Agreed. I have only one all black outfit and neither play in such hot weather nor can tell the difference. But what I quoted cleared up a mystery for me why people in the Middle East wear black clothes covering them. The wind is probably tipping the balance between absorption from sun and absorption of body heat by introducing the convection factor.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Have you ever run around in extreme heat wearing a black dress?

Didn't think so. ;)

Venus is about to beat someone wearing a black dress. Berdych wore black. Spooky, eh?

Wear black during the day in Australia or New York and you're signing your own death warrant. :)

Cindy -- who has to play in the heat again tomorrow and who is laundering her whites right now

Nadal also wore black.
 

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
Oh, and if you watch the entire incident again, you will see that she actually starts walking in the wrong direction at one of the changeovers. Either she lost track of the score or forgot where the chairs were.
 
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TheMagicianOfPrecision

Guest
Has New York always been this hot in Sep!?!? Ive been there 3 times, 2 times in July and 1 time in August and i didnt find the heat troublesome at all, even though i stayed in Manhattan with all the pollution and stuff that probably didnt make it feel any cooler
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Last tweets of Azzie

On the way back to the hotel! the one thing I don't like about the city is traffic
about 23 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
So many people out there watching and cheering! How is everyone? I'm walking in the city, I love NYC! Going for breakfast with my mom
7:19 AM Aug 31st via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Morning guys! Won my match yesterday! It was tough,but I'm happy I won and got a good match! Thanks for the support! It was great to see
7:18 AM Aug 31st via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Back. My credit card is gonna cry today probably. LoL
11:15 AM Aug 29th via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Just got back to the hotel! Had a good practise today! Now time to relax a little bit. My mom went shopping all morning. Still didn't come
11:14 AM Aug 29th via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Morning,morning! Off to the courts! Hitting at 10 with bondarenko! How is everyone doing?
5:57 AM Aug 29th via Twitter for BlackBerry®
It was a great practice with John Mc Enroe! He still plays unbelievable. Now gonna go back. How r u guys? Good day?
2:15 PM Aug 28th via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Hey guys! Going to hit with john mcenroe now! I'm really excited! Gotta warm up good lol
11:30 AM Aug 28th via Twitter for BlackBerry®
 

ice812

New User
They just said she is now released from hospital in good condition back at her hotel. During practice she suffered a fall and they are not sure if she landed on her arm or hit her head. A mild concussion could be the cause of her symptoms.
 

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
I dunno. I have never fallen on my head on a tennis court . . . . It's not like it's clay or wet conditions.

I would think they would hang onto her longer if she had a head injury serious enough to cause loss of consciousness.

Nah. I'm going with heat illness. It's a shame. I guess I will have to pull for Jankovic now.
 
I just heard the commentators talking during the break of the Monfils match that she was running sprints on the treadmill and fell and hit her head before her match........I think they thought they were on mute but they werent
 

Fee

Legend
ESPN has just quoted her a statement from her. She fell in her warmups and hit her head, diagnosed with a mild concussion.
 
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