[b]Is it okay to admit you get depressed when your favorite player loses[/b]
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kishnabe
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Ya that is the only match that was depressing apart form the 1995 US opne final. Took soo much emotion out of all the fans!
mcenroefan
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This thread should be entitled: "Federer and Nadal Fans finally agree upon something: The apocalypse is upon us."
DjokovicForTheWin
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I can understand being bummed out after W2008 for Fed fans because it was a total shock. But I don't see why Nadal fans should be overly upset after today's loss given that it really wasn't unexpected and rather one-sided.
winstonplum
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Wow, what a series of fabulous responses. Yes, I unfortunately was trying to follow the instructions on the FAQ page on how to make my title BOLD and thus make it scream "important." Alas, it hasn't been working. And several of you are correct--I shouldn't have written "sad," with it's connotations of depression, etc. I also agree with the posters that said it shouldn't have come of much of a surprise that Nadal lost today. I didn't think Nadal could beat Djoker at RG and felt really lucky that Fed took care of him. And so today Nadal had to take care of him himself and couldn't. I think what perhaps disappoints me is that the Nadal that I "fell in love" with doesn't really exist anymore. I really got back into tennis after watching the '07 and '08 Wimby finals. What struck me about those two matches was that Federer clearly had more natural "talent", whatever that might mean at the professional level, but Nadal seemed to be trying so much freaking harder on every point. He also struck as the most mentally strong player I had ever seen: seemingly able to forget about every bad point the second after it happened and grind out there until the death. For various reasons that appealed to me much more than Federer's aloof elegance. The pinnacle of my Nadal love was the '09 AO: I stayed up here in LA until whenever the hell that Verdasco match ended and was just gobsmacked by what I had seen. I'm sure you all remember that match. Verdasco threw everything he possibly had at Nadal. I'm pretty sure he had over a hundred winners. To this day what Nadal did in that match was the greatest defense I've ever seen on a tennis court. I remember telling friends afterward that I was absolutely positive he would beat Federer. Not because he was a "better" player per se, but because like some crazed boxer, defeat was not an option. And thus it came to pass. I think part of Federer's tears after that match were due to realizing that he might be stuck at 13 slams forever and that Nadal would permanently have his number in best of 5 matches. Anyway, that Nadal is no longer around. And that's fine. People get older, priorities change. I know he wanted to win today, but I don't think he needed to win the way that that old Nadal did. And for whatever reason, watching that old Nadal was profoundly inspirational.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Do they show Davis Cup on telly in the US. Or only if the US is playing ?
I've never gotten to see it here, except when India played Uzbekistan in India, and I don't remember whether i could watch it much.
ruerooo
Legend
You know, I believe in therapy.
I believe in it less when the advice comes from you though.
:roll:
Let the people feel how they feel. They're not hurting you.
:-?
slice bh compliment
G.O.A.T.
Tennis Channel usually shows one or two other world group matches. Just a sat feed and commentary from the studio in LA.
They started this only a few yrs ago, though. I'll never forget getting to watch the AUS/ARG tie with the animated Coria/Hewitt match.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Is that good or bad?
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
And that is a consolation how?
I would rather keep losing to one player, than getting bagelled by someone who I've hitherto dominated..
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
It's definitely better. Did you see Nadal's face during the trophy ceremony? He was peachy. The LAST thing he needs is to lose to Novak again.
Yes. You sound unstable. Maybe you should not have had kids yet.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
What I saw was a guy who was fuming and close to tears. See his on court interview with Tennis Channel. Here: http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Media/Videos/2011/10/Tokyo-2011-Final-Interview-Nadal.aspx
It takes a lot of character to put your disappointment behind and smile in the ceremony. But make no mistake, Rafa was devastated inside..
I do like Murray more than I like Djokovic, but in the end this is just another lost opportunity for Rafa. This is very frustrating. Not only does he lose, he also plays many matches. It's like running a marathon and stopping right before the finish line. Over and over again.
Now in Shanghai he's got another great opportunity of winning a hard court title. Many top players are missing, Murray must get tired at some point since he's at his third consecutive week of playing and the surface is not that fast.
Do you think he's going to take advantage of this situation? I'm prepared for another dissapointment.
I hope he skips Paris like he did last year and takes a long break before the WTF and comes back fresh and ready to play.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
Probably. But I've always liked Murray more than Djokovic. Murray seems natural and he's not trying to make himself likeable while Djokovic is the complete opposite.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
I guess. I've liked both equally. And I think both are genuinely good guys in general - Murray's tantrums and Djoko's on court celebrations, notwithstanding. That said, I can guarantee that Murray-Rafa's relationship will get frostier if the h2h narrows.
Meanwhile a lot of questions on Nadal. Latest I've heard is that he's joining a soccer club? Oh..the humanity; surprising is an understatement. Rafael's mind is far away from tennis it seems. No wonder he wins 4 points in an entire set..
DragonBlaze
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AM95
Hall of Fame
i only started to get depressed about federer after i saw him lose to rafa in Wimby 2008. this was because i spent so much energy and time rooting for him in that final.
for me, depression comes from the overwhelming mental exhaustion that becomes prevalent after a player that i've been cheering for loses. its not necesarilly because that player lost, rather because i spent so much time pointlessly rooting.
get what im saying?
for me, depression comes from the overwhelming mental exhaustion that becomes prevalent after a player that i've been cheering for loses. its not necesarilly because that player lost, rather because i spent so much time pointlessly rooting.
get what im saying?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Agree and I don't see Murray ever being that type of person. Novak was always cocky, it just got worse this year.
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
You might laugh at me for saying this- dont really care- After Federer lost the Wimbledon final in 2008 i sold my 5 Wilson K Factor racquets and 2 bags. I was depressed for 4-5 days then i found the meaning of life again.
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
I see what you're saying.. but for me that final was worth watching. Sure, I wanted Fed to win, and in hindsight it would've been great, as he could've been on the verge of 7 straight wimbledons.
but, at the same time i can appreciate Rafa's mental strength and unwillingness to give in. In some ways, Federer losing it made it more special, as he REALLY made Rafa earn that championship.
RF20Lennon
Legend
THATS perfectly ok Im 17 lol I cried myself to sleep when fed could not convert the two match points against djokovic i also know a 68 yr old lady who cries like crazy when fed loses.
RF20Lennon
Legend
i couldnt get over that aussie open 2009 loss till he won madrid.
Lsmkenpo
Hall of Fame
Yes something is wrong, you either have low self esteem and your attempting to attach your own psyche onto Nadal for an ego boost, or your life is just too good at the moment and you have nothing better to be depressed about.
I used to get very upset when my favorite teams or players would lose, until I became seriously ill for a couple of years and even though I still watched every match and was a big fan, I no longer felt so bad when my favorites lost. I realized win or lose I was still the same person and I couldn't allow it to get me any further down.
It is normal to feel good and bad emotions for your favorites while watching , but it is not healthy to let it effect your life personally after. You are a separate person you have no physical attachment to Nadal, if he wins your still the same, if he loses your still the same.
Enjoy the sport, but don't let it effect you personally, because your own life and those close to you is who you should care this much for, not someone in sports who doesn't even know you. Let the emotion go after the match and go out and do something fun with your family or friends.
This is just sport not life, your life is life, now go out and live it.
Crazy man
Banned
I got more angry with Safin than being sad knowing he had the potential to beat anyone, any day, any tournament and lost to inferior opponents. The last couple of years rooting for him I got a little sad that I knew his career was winding down but other than that, not much. AO 2002 and Wimbledon 2009 finals left me gutted.
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I feel for you, friend. But it was the 2011 US Open semifinal (Nadal bt Murray) that really knocked the stuffing out of me. Murray could have done so much better, perhaps even won in 3 or 4 sets.
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I find that rabbits and gerbils are much more helpful in this matter.
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Mainad
Bionic Poster
For me it was his Wimbledon semi against Nadal that was the most disappointing. He dominated Nadal in the 1st set and was poised to go a break up in the 2nd when he missed that easy smash and promptly folded for the rest of the match. It was unbelievable. I was in a thoroughly foul mood for much of the rest of the day. That was the one that I felt Murray really should have won if he'd only kept his cool and his focus.
The USO semi was not such a great shock as he had had little time to recover from his gruelling match with Isner just the day before (Nadal had had a walk in the park with Roddick) and was really pooped after winning that 3rd set and had nothing left in the tank for the 4th. It was curiously similar to the way Nadal himself just had no energy left for the 4th set of his final with Djoko after battling so hard to take the 3rd!
Dilettante
Hall of Fame
Glad you really don't care because, yes, I might be laughing at you.
Hood_Man
G.O.A.T.
I do, but then I've been battling with depression since my teens, so really it can be triggered by anything...
It sounds awful but as great as it feels when Federer wins, I'm almost looking forward to the day he retires so I can enjoy the sport without getting so emotionally attached. If only for my health (lol...).
Saying that, there's always Murray :shock:
It sounds awful but as great as it feels when Federer wins, I'm almost looking forward to the day he retires so I can enjoy the sport without getting so emotionally attached. If only for my health (lol...).
Saying that, there's always Murray :shock:
I don't care if you are depressed, but don't take out your anger on other posters in here, especially from the opposing fans. If Nadal loses to Nole, don't find reason to attack the Nole fans when they celebrate their favorite player, and vice versa. It's not right to take your fustration out on them. If you can't control yourself, take a few days off to cool down before getting back on this board.
namelessone
Legend
:shock:
It's just tennis, no matter how attached you may be to Federer.
What will you do when Federer retires?
DragonBlaze
Hall of Fame
It certainly is easier when Fed's not playing! Still I like his playing style too much for him to retire now
To be honest, I get more pissed off with Fed cause he has to go and lose in a friggin 5 setter. I had no problems with him losing to Djoker at AO and Nadal at RG, since (the latter was expected as well) they weren't long drawn out matches. Especially the AO match, Djoker was simply better that day and that's easy to get past.
BUT the Wimbledon and US Open losses (last year and this year), I just was just facepalming all over the place. As AM95 said, you spend all that energy rooting in one match, only to fail at the last hurdle which is just annoying. Federer these days also has a tendency to keep pushing the matches to 5 sets which is annoying. I mean either win those 5 setters or just lose in 3 or 4 man lol.
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