Babolat 3001 instructions

[galicia2102]

Hello,
I am trying to find in google something related the stringing machine babolat 3001. I bought one but doesn’t work and i am asking you if someone has instructions that will give more skills for reparation.
From now, i really appreciate any comment and help
Cheers

 

[Irvin]

@abllee2198 or @Babolat Official may be able to help

 

[galicia2102]

Thanks Irvin
I will try!!

 

[Irvin]

@galicia2102 no need to contact them directly they should get notified with an alert as you did.

 

[fritzhimself]

https://www.tenstring.ch/tmp/3001.pdf

 

[Irvin]

I forgot all about Tennis Machines they may be able to help also.

 

[galicia2102]

Thanks Fritzhimself and Irvin

I am making a mechanical revision and which functions are working.
This 2nd hand machine was offered me for 50€ and i see that all functions are working except: brake due to the use (i need to make a new one part with more thickness) and the linear pulling (i need to see the engine that activate the chain)
The rest is working well:
Magnetic clamp support ok
Knot function Ok
Speed ok

So i need to check if i am able to solve issue

Some pictures

 

[fritzhimself]

Oh, that's bad news. Seems like the weight transmitter is broken.
This one is responsible that the linear gripper pulls the correct weight.

 

[galicia2102]

Thanks again
Can you tell me which part is the weight transmiter? When i push the start button i can hear a beep during 1 or 2 seconds but nothing move.

I am going to see if tension arrive to the engine

 

[fritzhimself]

Oh oh - the symptom is clear. This was done by a specialist in Austria - unfortunately he is retired.
Don't know anyone who has this spare part - you can't repair it yourself. There must be a new part.
Where are you at home?

 

[galicia2102]

I am spanish and live near Vigo (north west of Spain)

 

[fritzhimself]

Aha so that's where your username comes from. Unfortunately I can't help you.
I'll keep both fingers crossed for you to get this great machine running.
Probably the previous owner sold the machine as a defect, because he doesn't know anyone who can repair it.

 

[galicia2102]

Thanks my friend. I think i need to visit my brother electronic engineer as i am only mechanical engineer and see if he is able to understand the problem
The machine is great and good quality. I am sure that the problem is something really easy as we are speaking of 30 years old. Electronics basics if we compare with today

 

[galicia2102]

Someone has the electronic squemes of this machine Babolat VS 3001?
The squemes will help me a lot to understand it
Thanks in advance

 

[Babolat Official]

Someone has the electronic squemes of this machine Babolat VS 3001?
The squemes will help me a lot to understand it
Thanks in advance

Hi Galicia,

Sorry I am replying so late. Please dm me your email and I will send you what I have as far as schematics. I wish I could help further, but I have never worked on these machines.

-Josh

 

[galicia2102]

Josh
Many thanks, I appreciate very much. I promise to keep informed to all of you about this reparation
My email is info@ideasdeingenieria.com

Thank you very much

 

[galicia2102]

Hello Josh
Can you please advise me when you have sent the info by e-mail?
I want to be sure that your email doesn’t go the the junk recipient

I have sent you my contact by private message

Thanks

 

[Irvin]

Hello Josh
Can you please advise me when you have sent the info by e-mail?
I want to be sure that your email doesn’t go the the junk recipient

I have sent you my contact by private message

Thanks

@Babolat Official (just in case Josh is not monitoring this thread)

 

[beepee1972]

just dropped you a PM.... perhaps I can help you with a users manual

 

[galicia2102]

Thanks Beepee1972 I already reply you with my mail info
Thanks

 

[galicia2102]

Well, finally Josh have sent the info that i needed and as i said to him thanks to all for your help and support.

5 stars for all of you, this is incredible and helpful for me

It is like BOM Bill of materials, that permit me understand the principle of working of all the machine and for sure try to repair.

As it is in French and i am spanish also simple to identify each component

If someone need this info send me PM and I will forward to you. I suppose that Josh will not be opposite

Anyway i will see if reparation is simple and keep you informed

Cheers
Enrique

 

[galicia2102]

Something happen that no current reaches the engine. Maybe the relay that was replaced before as you can see in the pictures

Anyway i will need electronic specialist cause i am not able to detect by myself.

I upload one video to see what’s happen
Here the link

 

[galicia2102]

i reply myself as i promised you to update info related this reparation.
The good news:
- Engine is working
- Weight trasmitter (aluminium part) is NOT broken
the bad news:
- Green board where are placed the potentiometers and the weight sensor has an Integrated part that gave us bad signal, that´s why the machine doesn´t work. This component as we could see in some catalogue is obsolete, so we need to use a different one and re-calibrate the machine.

Hope next week i can upload a video with the machine working...i hope

This is a pic of the component broken where the blue arrow is

thanks for your help and keep you informed

 

[Mike345]

i reply myself as i promised you to update info related this reparation.
The good news:
- Engine is working
- Weight trasmitter (aluminium part) is NOT broken
the bad news:
- Green board where are placed the potentiometers and the weight sensor has an Integrated part that gave us bad signal, that´s why the machine doesn´t work. This component as we could see in some catalogue is obsolete, so we need to use a different one and re-calibrate the machine.

Hope next week i can upload a video with the machine working...i hope

This is a pic of the component broken where the blue arrow is

thanks for your help and keep you informed

 

[Mike345]

Hello

The relays on the main pcb are for the electromagnetic clamp and the turn table. If the machine is left on for to long, they will over heat and burn out. I have replaced all three as one had failed and the others looked damaged. The chip 1014cn is still avaible. Have sent you a pm on this. The carbon brushes for the turn table are also still available though you need to desoldier them and use the orignal contacts and springs.

Hope this helps

Mike

 

[galicia2102]

Hello Mike
I send you a pm. The reparation is still under hands of my electronic colleague. I will see this week how is going and inform you
Thanks for the info of some spare parts

 

[galicia2102]

Good news the machine is working at least with the movement.
Today i will see if can give tension and respect the different functions

 

[fritzhimself]

NICE!

 

[Rabbit]

Good deal, congrats!

 

[Irvin]

Good news the machine is working at least with the movement.
Today i will see if can give tension and respect the different functions

Good news and bad news. First the good news, you are becoming the resident Babolat 3001 expert. Now the bad news, you are becoming the resident Babolat 3001 expert. LOL Congratulations.

 

[galicia2102]

Dears,

First of all thanks for your comments, i will be here to help others as much as i can
Today we assembled the machine and everything is working well. Nothing is damage and all the functions are working includind the motor that goes up in de diabolo but not when the arm of the racket is over it
My next step is to understand how to calibrate the tension. I followed the instructions received from babolat but without success. We were able to get 20kg when machine has 10 and basically receive double of the tension that we have in the display. For me something missing in the information.

But sometime ago I received one e-mail from Mr Fritz (thanks a lot my friend) with instructions from Mr. Schwank expert in these machines with a different info to calibrate. I will test them this Thursday and will let you know if it works.
If is ok i will share with all of you

THANKS to all of you for your help and support

 

[Irvin]

Dears,

First of all thanks for your comments, i will be here to help others as much as i can
Today we assembled the machine and everything is working well. Nothing is damage and all the functions are working includind the motor that goes up in de diabolo but not when the arm of the racket is over it
My next step is to understand how to calibrate the tension. I followed the instructions received from babolat but without success. We were able to get 20kg when machine has 10 and basically receive double of the tension that we have in the display. For me something missing in the information.

But sometime ago I received one e-mail from Mr Fritz (thanks a lot my friend) with instructions from Mr. Schwank expert in these machines with a different info to calibrate. I will test them this Thursday and will let you know if it works.
If is ok i will share with all of you

THANKS to all of you for your help and support

@Babolat Official @abllee2198 @fritzhimself

 

[shadow01]

Amazing! Congrats

 

[jim e]

Possibly with this video it may help with calibration as they show calibration for Babolat star 4, possibly similar to yours.Good luck, sounds like you got through hardest part.

 

[galicia2102]

Thanks Jim!!
I think i saw all the information available in internet and in this case of the Star 4 is a little bit different than mine machine.
That one has only 2 potentiometer and the 3001 has 3.
I am trying to find also some people with this machine in spain to see if they can help me
What is amazing that I bought this machine for 50€ as the seller thought, as the machine didn’t work; sell it for spare parts.
In Spain some machines 3001 with similar conditions are offered for 1000€.
As i like a lot stringing and learn day by day, I will never sell it
More if i see this video in the USA tv...seeing it i have a 30 old jewelry

Meet the man who strings Roger Federer's tennis rackets

For the last 15 years, Ron Yu has personally strung Federer's rackets – nine fresh ones per match

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[Herb]

I trained a girl that lives in Barcelona and in Vilanova i la Geltru. She uses an old Babolat Starring e with the single clamp. I don't think your machine is quite as old as hers though.

 

[galicia2102]

Thanks Herb
Do you have the contact? Maybe i can send mail and could help

 

[Mike345]

Hello again.

Its all to do with the yellow button and setting it in program mode.

Have sent you a email with some extra info on this.

 

[galicia2102]

Hello Mike
Thank you so much!!!
It is really strange that we don’t have a clear written information (and complete) about this process.
I tried to adjust during 2h without success with crazy values without any logic reason
Now i think I understand your remarks but I cannot test until next week. Business trip [emoji27]
If i have problems I will send mail to you

This is really a collection of chapters to do the book of calibration

@Mike345
@Babolat Official
@abllee2198
@fritzhimself

I have checked the secret keys + 3 and 4 with the following results:
Secret key + 3

Secret key + 4

And this is the serial number:

According to your instructions the value of secret key +4 must be 000 right?

If yes means that pulling unit is not in the correct position right?

Thanks

 

[Mike345]

Hello Mike
Thank you so much!!!
It is really strange that we don’t have a clear written information (and complete) about this process.
I tried to adjust during 2h without success with crazy values without any logic reason
Now i think I understand your remarks but I cannot test until next week. Business trip [emoji27]
If i have problems I will send mail to you

This is really a collection of chapters to do the book of calibration

@Mike345
@Babolat Official
@abllee2198
@fritzhimself

I have checked the secret keys + 3 and 4 with the following results:
Secret key + 3

Secret key + 4

And this is the serial number:

According to your instructions the value of secret key +4 must be 000 right?

If yes means that pulling unit is not in the correct position right?

Thanks

Yes secret key +4 should read 000 if the unit is calibrated correctly. the machine will not do anything if it does not know the position valve of the pulling head just a single beeb and does not move. Like you I have spent hours trying to find the information and then calibrating it.

 

[Irvin]

Once upon a time there was an EE on the boards that wanted to buy my Star 5 tension module when I got another one but I had to return it. That EE wanted the module to look at the code I assume to see how it worked. I wonder if any one else has ever looked at the code and could help solve any issues?

 

[galicia2102]

Once upon a time there was an EE on the boards that wanted to buy my Star 5 tension module when I got another one but I had to return it. That EE wanted the module to look at the code I assume to see how it worked. I wonder if any one else has ever looked at the code and could help solve any issues?

you can see if Albert has the instructions manual of Star 5, then you can read and understand better how to solve some issues. But as far as i see in the manual you cannot find everything.

 

[galicia2102]

I tested the machine this weekend and everything is going well. now i am working on the calibration as i could see many different opinions related how to do it.

For calibration there are 2 methods that (in my opinion) are the step 1 and 2. first of all you need to enter in program mode (holding the pulling botton), find in the potentiometer the beeps and then switch off. Switch on again and try to adjust the potentiometer 3 in combination with really short adjustment of the number 1. Potentiometer 1 with 0,9volts i suppose that is a reference of tension as the comsumption is not the same if you pull 5kg or 30kg.

 

[jeroenn]

They are not really step 1 and 2. The Second method (multimeter) works on any of those machines from that era, and that includes machines without a display (2002, 2502 - with the rotary dial) etc.

 

[galicia2102]

They are not really step 1 and 2. The Second method (multimeter) works on any of those machines from that era, and that includes machines without a display (2002, 2502 - with the rotary dial) etc.

but the different methods

 

[jeroenn]

Just go back & forth between the offset and gain. Also, use 0.9 volts per Albert Lee's instructions. 0.1 volts does make a difference.

 

[jeroenn]

Once upon a time there was an EE on the boards that wanted to buy my Star 5 tension module when I got another one but I had to return it. That EE wanted the module to look at the code I assume to see how it worked. I wonder if any one else has ever looked at the code and could help solve any issues?

I wouldn't mind trying to read out the software on these machines. But what's more, I'd love to see a star 5 loadcell.

 

[Irvin]

I wouldn't mind trying to read out the software on these machines. But what's more, I'd love to see a star 5 loadcell.

It is easy to remove the tension module on the Star 5. I take mine out and get some pictures for you later today.

 

[galicia2102]

Just go back & forth between the offset and gain. Also, use 0.9 volts per Albert Lee's instructions. 0.1 volts does make a difference.

Good!!! I will try to check this weekend...I think i am near the finish line!!!

 

[Irvin]

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