Babolat first generation

Babolat first generation Soft Control:

Again, great thread Ericsson. Did you ever play with these soft controls, and were they graphite/fibreglass do you know?

Do you play with any of the amazing racquets in your collection, or do they hang on your wall and you just admire them? A seller on fleabay had a soft drive 2nd gen recently and damn it was a great looking racquet......
 

ericsson

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Again, great thread Ericsson. Did you ever play with these soft controls, and were they graphite/fibreglass do you know?

Do you play with any of the amazing racquets in your collection, or do they hang on your wall and you just admire them? A seller on fleabay had a soft drive 2nd gen recently and damn it was a great looking racquet......
Yes, if they are not brand new i'll play them (mostly a brief hit). The soft controls were 80% graph / 20% Fiberglass.

As i had too many of these older Babolats over the years i've sold a bunch of them, the rest is now in boxes waiting to be hanged together with the rest of my collection (working on a wall system to hang rackets).
 
Hey Ercisson, great collection, just a quick question about PD releases
1994 (the original)
1995/96
1997

They look very similar are they all the same paintjob and specs? Was anything changed between those generations? I always thought the swirly was the second generation but I am obviously wrong! Are they named differently between the first 3 generations?

Also the Soft Drives, were they before the Pure Drives or were they in simultaneous production?

Fascinating stuff!

I have a solid collection myself but no way near as good as yours.....
 
Hey Ercisson, great collection, just a quick question about PD releases
1994 (the original)
1995/96
1997

They look very similar are they all the same paintjob and specs? Was anything changed between those generations? I always thought the swirly was the second generation but I am obviously wrong! Are they named differently between the first 3 generations?

Also the Soft Drives, were they before the Pure Drives or were they in simultaneous production?

Fascinating stuff!

I have a solid collection myself but no way near as good as yours.....
If i recall Ericsson said the 94 issue was 280g unstrung, i have a 97 issue ( i believe ) that is 300g unstrung. So the specs did differ slightly tho the PJ stayed pretty much the same. I would love to try a '94. The soft drive came out the same time as the PD i think. Saw an original soft drive for sale a while ago but i couldnt pick up, which annoyed me immensely!
 

dje31

Professional
Weren't the first gen Babolats made from old ProKennex molds?
Not sure about the Pure Control or Pure Power, but the original Pure Drive definitely was a ProKennex Ceramic Destiny mold.

For some reason, I'm thinking the Pure Control might have been derivative of a Donnay Pro 1 mid, but someone with better info or more reliable memory, please feel free to correct me.
 

ericsson

Hall of Fame
Hey Ercisson, great collection, just a quick question about PD releases
1994 (the original)
1995/96
1997

They look very similar are they all the same paintjob and specs? Was anything changed between those generations? I always thought the swirly was the second generation but I am obviously wrong! Are they named differently between the first 3 generations?

Also the Soft Drives, were they before the Pure Drives or were they in simultaneous production?

Fascinating stuff!

I have a solid collection myself but no way near as good as yours.....
Thank you,

As you can see on the pictures the paintjob is slightly different as are the specs:
1994 edition (the Original, 280gr unstrung)
1995-96 double line edition (290gr unstrung)
1997 edition (300gr unstrung and most common)

The swirly is a different mold.

The first soft and pure drive was part of the 1994 collection so i would say simultaneous...
 

ericsson

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Not sure about the Pure Control or Pure Power, but the original Pure Drive definitely was a ProKennex Ceramic Destiny mold.

For some reason, I'm thinking the Pure Control might have been derivative of a Donnay Pro 1 mid, but someone with better info or more reliable memory, please feel free to correct me.
That's what i've heard too but to be honest i can't confirm that it was actually a PK destiny...

The first pure control on the other hand is indeed a copy mold of the famous "Supermidsize" Donnay Pro One.
 
As I read through this tread I notice none of the first generation Pure Drives have leather grips? I purchased a few years ago with leather grips and weight was around 309grams unstrung? Both in pristine condition.
 

Lavs

Professional
Got this thread refreshed with some good racket.
The very first Pure Control with 16x18 string pattern and 335g unstrung (double line series).
So great stick! Feelwise - soft, plush and solid as rock. If to compare it with modern Pure Controls/Strike - like chalk and cheese :)
Just not sure where it was made... in Thailand?




 
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Got this thread refreshed with some good racket.
The very first Pure Control with 16x18 string pattern and 335g unstrung.
So great stick! Feelwise - soft, plush and solid as rock. If to compare it with modern Pure Controls/Strike - like chalk and cheese :)
Just not sure where it was made... in Thailand?





Looks and sounds like a Prestige!
 
I can see why people love and hate this model. As a radical trysis player, I felt astonished with the spin and RHS on the serve. Was almost like using a drug. For 3 years only 350g frames with 18x20 and out of nowhere this. Got sold right away.

Went back to the old logs because I couldn't have pace with them. I hit the most amazing winners that I've ever hit, but It was so hard for me to get the pace. I realized that I was sending ball all over the place, no consistency at all. Warm up hitting was so embarrassing, zero consistency.

Do you guys think that if I beef it up to my weight range and string it a little tighter I would be able to find that pace? I really felt I couldn't hit through the ball as I do with the PT's.

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Hey guys, I found the following Babolat racquet, almost brand new, which seems to have the same size and beam shape as the Pure Drive, just a little lighter. And the name on the neck is "Fitness C. O2".

Could anybody tell me something about this racquet, like when it was made, possible stiffness, and was it a cheapo big box store item? I tried and serched "Fitness" and found nothing.

If it is not too stiff, I actually want to add some weight to it (now it is about 300 grams strung), play it, and compare it to the new Pure Drive. But if it is just garbage, I won't waste my time and energy on it, then.



 
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Couple more images.

It is funny to see "tubular beam - increased stiffness" printed on the racquet, like they had been too gentle on our arms and wrists, and wanted to make an improvement there...... :mad:



 
Pure Control 1 gen?
Soft Control?
Custom racquet?

The seller has one + and 18x20
And another std and 16x19
Wow they are cool! Double line logo means they are very early on, beam sure looks like it could only be early pure control. There was an XL 18*20, but dont remember reading in this thread anywhere about a 16*19....

only photos i can google of Arnaud hes using Head, so i would say they were test frames for him to try?
 
I came across a pair of pure controls, looks to be 2nd generation by what other posters have said.

Great stick. Swings heavy. Lots of plow but still feels pretty stiff.

I need new bumpers. Any idea where to get them? Thanks for any advice.

Cheers


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I came across a pair of pure controls, looks to be 2nd generation by what other posters have said.

Great stick. Swings heavy. Lots of plow but still feels pretty stiff.

I need new bumpers. Any idea where to get them? Thanks for any advice.

Cheers


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Nice racquets! Love the controls. Pretty sure the headsize/string pattern stayed the same through the 98 inch storms and then the following 98 inch pure controls.

Check here...

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_Grommets/catpage-GROMBABOLAT.html

for the "Babolat Pure Control/+/Tour/+/Storm/Zyln/GT Grom" grommets.

PS - then check here below on how to de-wooferize them!

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/finally-a-non-woofer-babolat.578173/
 
Thanks for the tip Zoolander. I'm in Australia so it can be a but harder to source parts. But will have a look.

Never thought about de-woofering! Racquet feel a alright as is, any reason for doing this?

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Thanks for the tip Zoolander. I'm in Australia so it can be a but harder to source parts. But will have a look.

Never thought about de-woofering! Racquet feel a alright as is, any reason for doing this?

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In that case look up Tennis only in Perth. Have bought those exact grommets from there a while back, im in Sydney. They have them here...

http://www.tennisonly.com.au/Babolat_Grommets/catpage-GROMBABOLAT.html

Just dont like the feel the woofers give. The only woofers that seem to actually do anything are the arch ones in the bridge so i just cut them off. Those older controls were stiff, over 70RA, dont remember what i used to use......... the later storms/controls were much flexier and i used pacific poly force original @64lbs or so.

If you decide you dont like them and want to sell them, let me know! Wouldnt mind trying them again.
 
Mr ericsson, I think I might have found one pretty interesting 1st gen that you sir (seem to) do not possess.

This either excites me and get me apprehensive of buying it.

It is a Babolat Acessit that i have never ever heard of in my entire life, but by the way of the paint job Knew right up front that is from the early generations.

It is Blue on the throat, red on the head and has the tradicional white stripes. Ill try to post some pictures of it.

Anyway, do you know anything about this frame? is it worth gathering or it is just trash?
 
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Hate to burst your bubble, but ericsson has an accessit on page 4 of this thread....... His is the earlier model and i think mostly green from memory, with the longer double line logo. Yours may be the second gen i would guess?

Did you get it and have a hit with it?
 
Hate to burst your bubble, but ericsson has an accessit on page 4 of this thread....... His is the earlier model and i think mostly green from memory, with the longer double line logo. Yours may be the second gen i would guess?

Did you get it and have a hit with it?
Not yet. ot buying it if it is not worth it. Ive seen his Acessit, but have you seen the specs sistem? exactly like the first gen!
 
My coach has the first generation Pure Drive. Why does it feel so great? I mean, I honestly hate the newer Pure Drives. But there's something about this one that feels good.
I just picked up a 1997 version 1st gen pure drive.
I’ve played with many babolats & tried to stick with them but they just never worked out for my game.

This version felt amazing from the 1st hit - such a great combination of feel & control with good power. The only other babolat that I’ve used where there was a flex on contact was the most recent pure control - it has a lot of flex but lacks power & stability.
No other pure drive, aeropro, or pure aero that i’ve hit with has this pocketing feel - it’s slight but there.
Also, this racket slices backhands beautifully which is something that I’ve struggled greatly with other pure drives. My slices don’t float with this stick - I feel like I can hit offensive backhand slices.

What amazes me is how easy it is to flatten out the ball with this racket - I’ve never been able to do this consistently with any other babolat other than the pure strike.
This feels like a great all-court racket - it has great feel & control at net as well as being solid from the baseline. It does not feel as muted as the pure drives after it - a more raw (but not jarring) feeling on contact that provides feedback & feel.
I would love to pick up a spare one but these are a little hard to find - I had to ship this one from Europe.

I was planning on unloading all my rackets & going back to my lm radical but this has got me thinking.
 
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