Babolat first generation

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  1. chrischris

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    Yes the Soft was a nice bat.. Once i had a few of those and a few years later i had 2 of Moyas personal rackets.. think they may have been Softs in Pure Drive PJ actually.
     
  2. RDS001

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    sorry to bother you, but could you tell me, for how much would you consider selling one of those, cause I just bought one for just 9 euros(the guy who sold it to me knew nothing about it being classic frame), so I'm very happy to have it in my collection, but if I ever consider selling it how much would you ask for yours?
     
  3. chrischris

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    Are you looking for Soft Drives? might have access to a few soon..
     
  4. ericsson

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    I'm sorry, can't answer that one, no RDC in the house. It plays lower then 72 but it is quite a solid stick so it should be somewhere between 66-70 my opinion.
     
  5. ericsson

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    You are very Lucky indeed! Price is hard to say, all depends what the buyer want to give, they are very rare that's for sure, the first ones were only available in France and were quite limited. Very hard to put a price on...
     
  6. RDS001

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    thanks for your input, really appreciate it..yeah this one is first gen, with specs listed in France, great find, can't wait to try it out tomorrow, luckly for me and my collection people here in Croatia know hardly anything about racquets, for instance yesterday I swapped my modified Kblade in horrible condition for 10/10 LM RADICAL TOUR..they only appreciate pure drives, aeros and stuff like that, not that those are bad frames, but despite being youger I prefer more traditional frames :))
     
  7. ericsson

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    Pure Drive history with original cover:

    1994 (the original)
    1995/96
    1997
    1999
    2001

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  8. RDS001

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    Babolat Soft Control, I can only say wow, what a frame, never played with anything quite like that, I'm never selling that thing, the frame is so good, stable, great spin, nice thin beam, awesome feel, just performing well from all areas of the court, unbeliveble, I think I found my Holy Grale :))
     
  9. boinz

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    this is one very informative thread I always come back here if i need any earlier Babolat resources.

    Thank you Ericsson and congrats on the excellent find
     
  10. boinz

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    looking at this SW, I actually got the double line edition, i'm happy :)
     
  11. toddrobert38

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    Amazing thread. Never knew what I didn't know about Babolats. Could've sworn I first hit with Pure Drive in 93 but it seems like I've got the year wrong. Quite the museum Ericsson.
     
  12. ericsson

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    Thank you for the kind words, happy to help...
     
  13. Zoolander

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    Again, great thread Ericsson. Did you ever play with these soft controls, and were they graphite/fibreglass do you know?

    Do you play with any of the amazing racquets in your collection, or do they hang on your wall and you just admire them? A seller on fleabay had a soft drive 2nd gen recently and damn it was a great looking racquet......
     
  14. ericsson

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    Yes, if they are not brand new i'll play them (mostly a brief hit). The soft controls were 80% graph / 20% Fiberglass.

    As i had too many of these older Babolats over the years i've sold a bunch of them, the rest is now in boxes waiting to be hanged together with the rest of my collection (working on a wall system to hang rackets).
     
  15. mctennis

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    Great pics and great thread. Thanks Ericsson.
     
  16. Sweet-Spot

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    Hey Ercisson, great collection, just a quick question about PD releases
    1994 (the original)
    1995/96
    1997

    They look very similar are they all the same paintjob and specs? Was anything changed between those generations? I always thought the swirly was the second generation but I am obviously wrong! Are they named differently between the first 3 generations?

    Also the Soft Drives, were they before the Pure Drives or were they in simultaneous production?

    Fascinating stuff!

    I have a solid collection myself but no way near as good as yours.....
     
  17. Tommy Haas

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    Weren't the first gen Babolats made from old ProKennex molds?
     
  18. Zoolander

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    If i recall Ericsson said the 94 issue was 280g unstrung, i have a 97 issue ( i believe ) that is 300g unstrung. So the specs did differ slightly tho the PJ stayed pretty much the same. I would love to try a '94. The soft drive came out the same time as the PD i think. Saw an original soft drive for sale a while ago but i couldnt pick up, which annoyed me immensely!
     
  19. dje31

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    Not sure about the Pure Control or Pure Power, but the original Pure Drive definitely was a ProKennex Ceramic Destiny mold.

    For some reason, I'm thinking the Pure Control might have been derivative of a Donnay Pro 1 mid, but someone with better info or more reliable memory, please feel free to correct me.
     
  20. ericsson

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    Thank you,

    As you can see on the pictures the paintjob is slightly different as are the specs:
    1994 edition (the Original, 280gr unstrung)
    1995-96 double line edition (290gr unstrung)
    1997 edition (300gr unstrung and most common)

    The swirly is a different mold.

    The first soft and pure drive was part of the 1994 collection so i would say simultaneous...
     
  21. ericsson

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    That's what i've heard too but to be honest i can't confirm that it was actually a PK destiny...

    The first pure control on the other hand is indeed a copy mold of the famous "Supermidsize" Donnay Pro One.
     
  22. Andy Murray Is Goat

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    I just read all this forum and I am still confused can some one list the Babolat range in exact order?
     
  23. Hotrocks

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    VSBabolat- I just happen to have that very racquet! Actually had two and the black version.
     
  24. Hotrocks

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    Florico- So....What would be fair market value on one of these? I have one also...just curious.
     
  25. Hotrocks

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    As I read through this tread I notice none of the first generation Pure Drives have leather grips? I purchased a few years ago with leather grips and weight was around 309grams unstrung? Both in pristine condition.
     
  26. Lavs

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    Got this thread refreshed with some good racket.
    The very first Pure Control with 16x18 string pattern and 335g unstrung (double line series).
    So great stick! Feelwise - soft, plush and solid as rock. If to compare it with modern Pure Controls/Strike - like chalk and cheese :)
    Just not sure where it was made... in Thailand?
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    Looks and sounds like a Prestige!
     
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  28. Lavs

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    The first generation of Babolat Pure Control is in the same league with first Prestiges and Pros Staffs
     
  29. Lavs

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    this is piece of Art
     
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    Wow. This thread is for wikipedia
     
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    How awesome are this new babolat technologies??? Pro's endorse and recommend them!!

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    Nice! You got some of Fabio's old racquets.;)
     
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    I can see why people love and hate this model. As a radical trysis player, I felt astonished with the spin and RHS on the serve. Was almost like using a drug. For 3 years only 350g frames with 18x20 and out of nowhere this. Got sold right away.

    Went back to the old logs because I couldn't have pace with them. I hit the most amazing winners that I've ever hit, but It was so hard for me to get the pace. I realized that I was sending ball all over the place, no consistency at all. Warm up hitting was so embarrassing, zero consistency.

    Do you guys think that if I beef it up to my weight range and string it a little tighter I would be able to find that pace? I really felt I couldn't hit through the ball as I do with the PT's.

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  35. Long Face

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    Hey guys, I found the following Babolat racquet, almost brand new, which seems to have the same size and beam shape as the Pure Drive, just a little lighter. And the name on the neck is "Fitness C. O2".

    Could anybody tell me something about this racquet, like when it was made, possible stiffness, and was it a cheapo big box store item? I tried and serched "Fitness" and found nothing.

    If it is not too stiff, I actually want to add some weight to it (now it is about 300 grams strung), play it, and compare it to the new Pure Drive. But if it is just garbage, I won't waste my time and energy on it, then.

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  36. Long Face

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    Couple more images.

    It is funny to see "tubular beam - increased stiffness" printed on the racquet, like they had been too gentle on our arms and wrists, and wanted to make an improvement there...... :mad:

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  37. daniel2015

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    I think Ericsson doesnt read this forum anymore. I would need his help to identify a prostock
     
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    Any help is appreciated
     
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    Pure Control 1 gen?
    Soft Control?
    Custom racquet?

    The seller has one + and 18x20
    And another std and 16x19
     
  44. daniel2015

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    Player: Arnaud Boetsch
     
  45. Zoolander

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    Wow they are cool! Double line logo means they are very early on, beam sure looks like it could only be early pure control. There was an XL 18*20, but dont remember reading in this thread anywhere about a 16*19....

    only photos i can google of Arnaud hes using Head, so i would say they were test frames for him to try?
     
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    I came across a pair of pure controls, looks to be 2nd generation by what other posters have said.

    Great stick. Swings heavy. Lots of plow but still feels pretty stiff.

    I need new bumpers. Any idea where to get them? Thanks for any advice.

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  47. Zoolander

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    Nice racquets! Love the controls. Pretty sure the headsize/string pattern stayed the same through the 98 inch storms and then the following 98 inch pure controls.

    Check here...

    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Babolat_Grommets/catpage-GROMBABOLAT.html

    for the "Babolat Pure Control/+/Tour/+/Storm/Zyln/GT Grom" grommets.

    PS - then check here below on how to de-wooferize them!

    https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/finally-a-non-woofer-babolat.578173/
     
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    Thanks for the tip Zoolander. I'm in Australia so it can be a but harder to source parts. But will have a look.

    Never thought about de-woofering! Racquet feel a alright as is, any reason for doing this?

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    Also any recommendations on string set up and tension? I generally go for hybrid.

    Cheers

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    In that case look up Tennis only in Perth. Have bought those exact grommets from there a while back, im in Sydney. They have them here...

    http://www.tennisonly.com.au/Babolat_Grommets/catpage-GROMBABOLAT.html

    Just dont like the feel the woofers give. The only woofers that seem to actually do anything are the arch ones in the bridge so i just cut them off. Those older controls were stiff, over 70RA, dont remember what i used to use......... the later storms/controls were much flexier and i used pacific poly force original @64lbs or so.

    If you decide you dont like them and want to sell them, let me know! Wouldnt mind trying them again.
     

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