Babolat Pure Aero 2019

SinneGOAT

Professional
I have actually gone on a half a year long racquet journey, trying everything from the blade 18/20 to the pure drive, and I have actually narrowed down my choices. Next week I will be demoing the aero tour, aero plus, strike 16/19 gen 3 and pure drive tour plus. I already own one aero standard, and one of these 5 frames is gonna be my racquet choice until the next pure aero/drive/strike. My arm can handle babolats, plus I think I have been getting good string options for these frames. I’m open to any string/tension recommendations to make sure my arm stays fine, but next week I will be trying:
Kirschbaum pro line evolution
Solinco hyper g 16 + 16l
Confidential 16l
Rpm blast rough 17
Head velocity 16+17
Technifibre triax 17(16 later if I need more durability + control)
What I want to know is what tension should I use for these? I was thinking 49-55 for polys and 53-57 for multi. And one last question, how does a babolat #2 compare to a wilson #2? Is it slightly bigger?
Any takers?
 
PyroKid... i never measured, but at least to me my 4 3/8 grip Pure Aero and Pure Drive felt larger than my Head racquets. I purchased a 4 1/4 Pure Strike and it was more similar to others.

I think issue is thickness/shape...

I have a number oh Head racquets with the rectangular shape grips (82 pallet) and they feel very different from the newer, more square grip shapes (82S pallet).

I it may just be shape instead of actual measured size
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
??? @g4driver, I play tennis with a strung frame and overgrips.

If I am testing different strings, I match the differently strung racquet with my regular one. That way I know that any difference in performance is related to the actual string itself, rather than any changes the different string makes to the specs of the racquet.
I am 100% positive every player uses a strung frame to play tennis. [emoji2] 99.9% use over grips where I live due to oppressive humidity. Just hit 3 hours in it. [emoji3525]

If you match a frame to reflect a change in strings or a different overgrip, that's great. For me, I am simply not that good of player to notice any 3-5 gram variance in weight / balance if I try a different overgrip or a different string.

When I put the same 1.30mm VCT I have been using for 8+ years, but change an overgrip, that variance will be +-3 grams all in the handle so the balance change is inconceivable to me as is 3 grams of weight change. I have bigger problems with my tennis game than concerning myself something that small. [emoji28]

I matched frames for a lot of 4.5 and 5.0 players who want 3-6 frames matched = same weight same balance unstrung, no overgrip. If they change overgrips, or try a different string, they don't seem to have any issue picking a string they like without a rebalancing of such a small change in weight or balance. Some seem to be pretty darn good players without matched frames.

Matching unstrung frames with the same replacement grips works for me and my clients.
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
I am 100% positive every player uses a strung frame to play tennis. [emoji2] 99.9% use over grips where I live due to oppressive humidity. Just hit 3 hours in it. [emoji3525]

If you match a frame to reflect a change in strings or a different overgrip, that's great. For me, I am simply not that good of player to notice any 3-5 gram variance in weight / balance if I try a different overgrip or a different string.

When I put the same 1.30mm VCT I have been using for 8+ years, but change an overgrip, that variance will be +-3 grams all in the handle so the balance change is inconceivable to me as is 3 grams of weight change. I have bigger problems with my tennis game than concerning myself something that small. [emoji28]

I matched frames for a lot of 4.5 and 5.0 players who want 3-6 frames matched = same weight same balance unstrung, no overgrip. If they change overgrips, or try a different string, they don't seem to have any issue picking a string they like without a rebalancing of such a small change in weight or balance. Some seem to be pretty darn good players without matched frames.

Matching unstrung frames with the same replacement grips works for me and my clients.
What racquet do you use? I haven’t been around long but I’ve seen your posts, you seem to be pretty educated. I can only imagine you use such an advanced frame like an RF97 or a 93p 18/20 lol
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
What racquet do you use? I haven’t been around long but I’ve seen your posts, you seem to be pretty educated. I can only imagine you use such an advanced frame like an RF97 or a 93p 18/20 lol
Use 342 gram 2016 Pure Aeros + all bought as gently used frames. Been using VCT 1.30mm for 8 years.

I have one APD+ and long for the release of the 2013 APD /APD+ as do many players on this forum and around the world.
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
Use 342 gram 2016 Pure Aeros + all bought as gently used frames. Been using VCT 1.30mm for 8 years.

I have one APD+ and long for the release of the 2013 APD /APD+ as do many players on this forum and around the world.
Which color of cyclone? I’m gonna try cyclone tour 16 in some demos and wanted to know what’s a good tension/reference.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
Which color of cyclone? I’m gonna try cyclone tour 16 in some demos and wanted to know what’s a good tension/reference.
Not Cyclone.. Cyclone Tour in both colors. I have strung over 30 reels of 1.30mm over the last 8 years and only one player use it at 50lbs....A 5.0C former Div 1 player in his 40s. Everyone else uses in from. 52 to 58 lbs Search the thread about Strings for 5.0 players
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
I tried to convince a few APD fanatics to try the "+". But all I got from them was blank stares and a lot of head shaking.

For many, the idea of using anything but a 27" frame is anathema!
Sure. A lot of us like the traditional length sticks. You can’t knock tradition. Remember. Progressivism is usually regreasivism.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
I tried to convince a few APD fanatics to try the "+". But all I got from them was blank stares and a lot of head shaking.

For many, the idea of using anything but a 27" frame is anathema!
It is such a great frame. Coming from long time with 28" inch Wilson 6.2 Skunks the 27.5 inch APD fit perfectly.

I have 6'4 24 year old buddy who uses them. Makes him a beast with the extra plow through you get from an extended frame.
 

Lavs

Hall of Fame
Just received my 2016 PAVS. 285 unstrung SW so it will need 4-5 grams in the hoop. Excited!
I put 9gr from 10 to 14 O'Clock (basically 2x4.5g strips all way long under the bumper guard), plus 3gr in the buttcap und leather grip. I got 337gr strung with 337SW. Could not be better setup for me.
Have fun with yours!
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
I put 9gr from 10 to 14 O'Clock (basically 2x4.5g strips all way long under the bumper guard), plus 3gr in the buttcap und leather grip. I got 337gr strung with 337SW. Could not be better setup for me.
Have fun with yours!
Wow - you added roughly 30 SW points which means your stick was roughly 305 SW strung prior to customization. Not surprised that most people that play this stick stock do not like it. 337 SW on the other hand is a bulldozer haha.
 

Lavs

Hall of Fame
Wow - you added roughly 30 SW points which means your stick was roughly 305 SW strung prior to customization. Not surprised that most people that play this stick stock do not like it. 337 SW on the other hand is a bulldozer haha.
No, no. All mine PAVS had also 285-297SW unstrung.
9gr added around 22-23SW (this weight no exactly in the hoop but all way along bumper guard).
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
I am trying the pure aero 2019 plus and it’s a nice racquet. Similar to the regular aero but that extra length is a help for my height. I will probably switch and stick, I need to sell my old racquets and stop reading these threads.
 

n80aoag

Rookie
I am trying the pure aero 2019 plus and it’s a nice racquet. Similar to the regular aero but that extra length is a help for my height. I will probably switch and stick, I need to sell my old racquets and stop reading these threads.
Any update on your experience with the PA Plus? How does it compare to the standard PA?
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
Any update on your experience with the PA Plus? How does it compare to the standard PA?
Felt a little more powerful and better on serves, spin was very good, pretty much everything was good except maybe control but you gotta use spin, but I am sticking with the ezone, just because it’s a little less stiff.
 

JonnyAbs

Semi-Pro
Years from now the forum software will generate results in real time as you type your forum question, eliminating redundant posts. Until then, I'll settle for the "the search function is your friend" sentiments. :cool:
ha I dont mind and would give you an answer but I have never used the plus. The user I referenced used to ask this question over and over a few years ago.
 

n80aoag

Rookie
The pure aero grip sizes seem to be running a full +1 from their counterparts at other brands
I put a Syntec Team replacement grip (same as Gen 3 Pure Strike) in my Pure Aero and it feels much better now. 4 1/4 with the stock grip felt like a 4 3/8 to me. With my wilson pro overgrip it's perfect for me now.
 
I put a Syntec Team replacement grip (same as Gen 3 Pure Strike) in my Pure Aero and it feels much better now. 4 1/4 with the stock grip felt like a 4 3/8 to me. With my wilson pro overgrip it's perfect for me now.
Given that the grip is thinner, would you say that you feel the racquet's stiffness more aka less comfort? I ask because I got a PA+ in my usual #3 and it's noticeably thicker which is affecting my backhand and looking for ways to make the grip thinner.
 

n80aoag

Rookie
Given that the grip is thinner, would you say that you feel the racquet's stiffness more aka less comfort? I ask because I got a PA+ in my usual #3 and it's noticeably thicker which is affecting my backhand and looking for ways to make the grip thinner.
No detriment to comfort with the thinner grip. I use a dampener, overgrip, and soft Tourna Big Hitter Black strings, so it mitigates the stiffness/harshness. Overall I'm very pleased with the thinner replacement grip.
 

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
Given that the grip is thinner, would you say that you feel the racquet's stiffness more aka less comfort? I ask because I got a PA+ in my usual #3 and it's noticeably thicker which is affecting my backhand and looking for ways to make the grip thinner.
Any negative vibration you feel on impact could be significantly mitigated by stuffing a little bit of Blue Tack inside the handle via the trapdoor. Take 5gms, wrap it in cling wrap and place it snugly inside. See if that improves the comfort level.

A thinner Grip often weighs a bit less so the extra weight inside the handle will offset that weight loss.
 
No detriment to comfort with the thinner grip. I use a dampener, overgrip, and soft Tourna Big Hitter Black strings, so it mitigates the stiffness/harshness. Overall I'm very pleased with the thinner replacement grip.
Bought the Syntec Team, installed it and the thickness feels much better. Hopefully any comfort that the Syntec Pro provided is maintained somehow.
Any negative vibration you feel on impact could be significantly mitigated by stuffing a little bit of Blue Tack inside the handle via the trapdoor. Take 5gms, wrap it in cling wrap and place it snugly inside. See if that improves the comfort level.

A thinner Grip often weighs a bit less so the extra weight inside the handle will offset that weight loss.
I weighed the outgoing Syntec Pro and it was around 16.5 grams. The Syntec Team I installed was 16. I wrapped it like I would but kept the excess grip. Doesn't look as odd as I would've thought.
 

Karma Tennis

Hall of Fame
I weighed the outgoing Syntec Pro and it was around 16.5 grams. The Syntec Team I installed was 16. I wrapped it like I would but kept the excess grip. Doesn't look as odd as I would've thought.
For sure. Depends how you wrap them and how much you trim them off. But I don't quite know how your Syntec Team would be 16 grams when out of the box they weigh 12 grams untrimmed.? (The Babolat Skin Feel was about 16.6grams but I believe that product is discontinued and replaced by the Syntec Team product.)

Here are the stock specs ...

SYNTEC PRO
  • Length: (43.3 in / 110 cm)
  • Weight: 0.62 oz (17.5 grams)
  • Thickness: 0.07 in (1.9 mm)
  • Colors: Black/White, White/Black, Black/Yellow, Black/Silver
  • Item #: 670051
SYNTEC TEAM
  • Length: (44.9 in / 114 cm)
  • Weight: 0.42 oz (12 grams)
  • Thickness: 0.06 in (1,5 mm)
  • Colors: Black, White/Black, White/Red
  • Item #: 670065
 
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