Babolat Pure Aero 2019

RafaLazer said:
Nice you got the pic! Told yall! The darker spots are dark navy. It's a nice looking frame actually.
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It is yellow/black - not navy. The picture floating around isn't the best quality as it appears to be taken out of a catalog but it's definitely black. Racquet looks great, can't wait for it to hit the market.
 
I’ve just returned to tennis after about 15 years out of the game. Currently playing with 20 year old Head Radical Zebra and I want new rackets....would you buy the current Pure Aero or wait for the update?
 
DTennis3 said:
It is yellow/black - not navy. The picture floating around isn't the best quality as it appears to be taken out of a catalog but it's definitely black. Racquet looks great, can't wait for it to hit the market.
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@DTennis3 you beat me to the punch. All anti Michigan fans can breathe a sigh of relief! The Babolat rep just dropped them off for stringing. I'll do specs before and after stringing.
 
Christian1979 said:
I’ve just returned to tennis after about 15 years out of the game. Currently playing with 20 year old Head Radical Zebra and I want new rackets....would you buy the current Pure Aero or wait for the update?
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I would wait. It is coming out so soon and they are updated only once every 3 years...
 
Geoff said:
Hello @gutfeeling I am located in Atlanta. Awaiting their arrival today (hopefully - depending on the reps availability)
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Too bad I live like 2 hours away from Atlanta..would love to demo those to see how they stack up. I currently have the PA leaded up 12.5oz with a 340sw. I also have the OG APD which I love. Haha
 
David Le said:
Too bad I live like 2 hours away from Atlanta..would love to demo those to see how they stack up. I currently have the PA leaded up 12.5oz with a 340sw. I also have the OG APD which I love. Haha
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I am going to string them tonight and playtest tomorrow. Early impressions are the improved bumper guard as mentioned on Talk Tennis. No more slotted grommets and therefore no short side. Grommets are almost identical to the Pure Drive. Also has the bumps like the Pure Drive. More to come!
 
Geoff said:
I am going to string them tonight and playtest tomorrow. Early impressions are the improved bumper guard as mentioned on Talk Tennis. No more slotted grommets and therefore no short side. Grommets are almost identical to the Pure Drive. Also has the bumps like the Pure Drive. More to come!
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Is the yellow a bright yellow or a dull/rusty yellow? I’m looking forward to the review!
 
Geoff said:
On my RDC it is unstrung, with plastic on the grip and card removed:
303g
6 pts HL
286sw
68RA

Listed specs on card are
300g
7 pts HL
290 sw
71RA
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What would the swingweight be strung ? I am assuming this is standard length. when will you get the plus version ?
 
Strung specs of the Pure Aero demo (no plastic on the grip or overgrip or dampener) that I just strung are:

317g
4pts HL
314sw
66RA

I strung the new Pure Aero with Babolat Xcel 16g at 55lbs. I’ll play test it with a Babolat VS grip overgrip and no dampener. Also plan on trying the Pure Aero Tour. I don’t have much interest in play testing the Plus or the lighter frames (Lite and Team). My preference is frames 320g and higher. I imagine we will see plenty of good reviews in the upcoming weeks. In my opinion any playtest is best when done yourself with your preferred string and tension. I feel that this helps. Minimize variables and keeps the playtest as unbiased as possible. I’m sure some will disagree with me but this is my thought on playtesting.
 
Geoff said:
I have all 5. I am starting to string them tonight. Patience grasshopper!
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From you initial unstrung spec of standard frame, it does sound like they did lower the SW to me. am I imagining this ?

Also the 66 RA seem like the frame is more flexible than it was in the past. maybe they listened to people who wanted more flexible frame
 
Nostradamus said:
From you initial unstrung spec of standard frame, it does sound like they did lower the SW to me. am I imagining this ?

Also the 66 RA seem like the frame is more flexible than it was in the past. maybe they listened to people who wanted more flexible frame
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In comparison with the 2016 Pure Aero strung specs on TW, the numbers on the 2019 Pure Aero that I strung are lower. I believe that TW measures multiple frames and I just have one sample to go by.
 
Geoff said:
In comparison with the 2016 Pure Aero strung specs on TW, the numbers on the 2019 Pure Aero that I strung are lower. I believe that TW measures multiple frames and I just have one sample to go by.
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Yes, even then you were right on the money with new 2017-2018 Pure drive and Pure drive plus though. they had lower SW than previous models. I could feel the difference right away on Volleys. but didn't notice it as much on groundies which was very strange. It may have been because I gotten so used to 2013 Aeropro drives that swing so easily from the baseline as well ? not sure.
 
Geoff, another thing is though, with RA being 66 which is significantly more flexible, I am afraid it maybe less powerful than it used to be. it might be great for players with arm problems but they may have to sacrifice some power with more flexible frame ?
 
Nostradamus said:
Yes, even then you were right on the money with new 2017-2018 Pure drive and Pure drive plus though. they had lower SW than previous models.
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The 2018 pure drive has a 324 swingweight and the 2015 pure drive has a 317. I have both, and the 2018 swings beefier and hits a heavier but less controllable ball. The open string pattern does not help in this regard. I cannot speak to SWs of the pluses and don't feel like looking them up.

Thank you for getting these specs to us, @Geoff ! Does the string pattern look identical to the current Pure Aero? I was hoping they closed it up slightly.
 
JonnyAbs said:
The 2018 pure drive has a 324 swingweight and the 2015 pure drive has a 317. I have both, and the 2018 swings beefier and hits a heavier but less controllable ball. The open string pattern does not help in this regard. I cannot speak to SWs of the pluses and don't feel like looking them up.

Thank you for getting these specs to us, @Geoff ! Does the string pattern look identical to the current Pure Aero? I was hoping they closed it up slightly.
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Disagree. Plus model for 2018 had significantly lower SW. I could feel it right away within 10 minutes of Playtest. and it had less power due to thinner beam.
 
JonnyAbs said:
The 2018 pure drive has a 324 swingweight and the 2015 pure drive has a 317. I have both. Not sure about the pluses.

Thank you for getting these specs to us, @Geoff ! Does the string pattern look identical to the current Pure Aero? I was hoping they closed it up slightly.
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Hello @JohnnyAbs. I don’t have a strung 2016 Pure Aero at home but the 2019 Pure Aero appears to be more open with even string spacing throughout the string bed. The Babolat rep said that Babolat wanted the new Pure Aero to be very spin friendly. I’ll compare with a strung 2016 Pure Aero in the am.
 
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Geoff said:
Hello @JohnnyAbs. I don’t have a strung 2016 Pure Aero at home but the 2019 Pure Aero appears to be more open with even string spacing throughout the string bed. The Babolat rep said that Babolat wanted the new Pure Aero to be very string friendly. I’ll compare with a strung 2016 Pure Aero in the am.
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does that mean the new 2019 pure Aero will be more Spin friendly frame than the previous version ?
 
Geoff said:
Hello @JohnnyAbs. I don’t have a strung 2016 Pure Aero at home but the 2019 Pure Aero appears to be more open with even string spacing throughout the string bed. The Babolat rep said that Babolat wanted the new Pure Aero to be very string friendly. I’ll compare with a strung 2016 Pure Aero in the am.
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It's even more open than the current Pure Aero?

Good lord, that racquet sounds difficult to control...
 
Geoff said:
I think that is the hope by Babolat. To me it’s not the plane it’s the pilot!
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even more spin than the previous version ?? wasn't the 2016 version already a spin monster ? do you think this new version will have diminished power level due to flexible frame ?
 
Nostradamus said:
Disagree. Plus model for 2018 had significantly lower SW. I could feel it right away within 10 minutes of Playtest. and it had less power due to thinner beam.
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Nonsense. First of all you said standard PD too, but we will more past that to the pluses. TW lists the 2015 plus SW as 326 and the 2018 as 325. Virtually identical. Beams are 23mm / 26mm / 23mm for 2018 and 23.5mm / 26mm / 23mm for 2015. Again, virtually identical. 2018 has more power because of the open string bed. Maybe you think it swings faster because it hits with more power given the same swing speed.
 
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Looking at these new specs, it is almost as if Babolat is going in this direction ...

Modern Player's Racquet - PURE DRIVE.
Traditional Player's Racquet = PURE STRIKE (Maybe!)
Modern Everyperson's Racquet - PURE AERO.

Fine tune to suit!

Although the RDC Ratings seem to be a little confusing. Perhaps the next PURE DRIVE will be a bit softer????
 
Looking forward to this. What’s the usual timeframe between the demo rackets getting into reps hands and them appearing in sports stores?
 
Karma Tennis said:
Looking at these new specs, it is almost as if Babolat is going in this direction ...

Modern Player's Racquet - PURE DRIVE.
Traditional Player's Racquet = PURE STRIKE (Maybe!)
Modern Everyperson's Racquet - PURE AERO.

Fine tune to suit!

Although the RDC Ratings seem to be a little confusing. Perhaps the next PURE DRIVE will be a bit softer????
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2018 pure drive was already slightly more flexible than previous versions so not likely.
 
Bender said:
It's even more open than the current Pure Aero?

Good lord, that racquet sounds difficult to control...
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I had a similar opportunity as Geoff and found it to have quite a bit more control than the current Pure Aero and really liked the increased touch & feel around the net. For the power, it seemed pretty comparable to me as the racquet simply felt more solid creating an easier plow-through of the ball. The spin potential feels a bit different and I was shocked at how effortless it was to get increased topspin. When I was playing against the racquet I instantly noticed the increased topspin my hitting partner had received over his “control” style frame he normally plays and started with that day. The graphics and color certainly pop and I felt look much better in-person than the picture that’s floating around. Overall I was extremely impressed with the updates & upgrades after day 1 of playing.
 
Geoff said:
Hello @JohnnyAbs. I don’t have a strung 2016 Pure Aero at home but the 2019 Pure Aero appears to be more open with even string spacing throughout the string bed. The Babolat rep said that Babolat wanted the new Pure Aero to be very string friendly. I’ll compare with a strung 2016 Pure Aero in the am.
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Geoff,

Can you Ask the Babolat Rep if the 2016 PA Grommets will fit the 2019 PA? If yes, the pattern isn't changed. If no, the pattern has changed.

String Friendly ??? Hints toward a likely tighter pattern as that makes a frame "string friendly " where more open makes it less "string friendly "
 
g4driver said:
Geoff,

Can you Ask the Babolat Rep if the 2016 PA Grommets will fit the 2019 PA? If yes, the pattern isn't changed. If no, the pattern has changed.

String Friendly ??? Hints toward a likely tighter pattern as that makes a frame "string friendly " where more open makes it less "string friendly "
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I should have said spin friendly. The problem with posting late!
 
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So... lower SW with wider String pattern?

They are really trying to give the "fischerprice" argument a bump.

Rocket launcher here we come...
 
JonnyAbs said:
I would think not very suited for a woman, but i guess thats why they have lite and team
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I would even say that it might not be very suited for the great majority of man too. maybe that's what they thought too, if you look to the 2013 SW.

But if you are a more experienced player and don't know much about lead placement. I would say that out of all APD/PA, the 2010 stock with leather grip is the most solid ball crusher.

PA with leather and PA tour too. but you might need to re-string it every match.
 
Pretty simple to add weight and increase the swingweight of a PA by adding a leather grip (Fairway) and a a small amount of TW tungsten putty in the buttcap. Paul Reed TW's Head MRT got TW to sell the Tungsten that their sister company Fishing Warehouse was selling.

340 grams / 325 SW in less than 5 minutes
 
g4driver said:
Geoff,

Can you Ask the Babolat Rep if the 2016 PA Grommets will fit the 2019 PA? If yes, the pattern isn't changed. If no, the pattern has changed.

String Friendly ??? Hints toward a likely tighter pattern as that makes a frame "string friendly " where more open makes it less "string friendly "
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The spacing is different so without asking I assume the grommets will not fit from the 2016 model to the 2019 model.
 
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