Babolat Pure Aero 2019

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I can't see myself switching to this new 2019 Aero. It is just too heavy at net, not fast at all. so I can imagine with Plus version, it will be super slow at net so my search will continue.
 

JonnyAbs

Semi-Pro
I have come to realize that when tired, this helps to keep my balls solid and deep. Tough to control when fresh though. Very easy to lose them long, or over compensate and hit the net. I have been using 2013 apd when fresh and 2019 PA when tired. Problem is, 2019 makes me more tired because of the swingweight, so i am going to experiment with more weight in my apd and gut mains for some more power.
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
Head lynx 16 @ 53lbs here. Will try rpm blast 16 next. It has a high launch angle and wide open spacing even with 16 gauge, so i feel like 16L or 17 is out of the question.
Cool thanks. I’m going to put hyper g 16 gauge in mine which is very thick or rpm blast 15L non rough.
 
Low tension is key. Try it you might like it.

Yes, low tension IS the key when it comes to Hyper-G 16. There is a huge difference in the comfort level of that string depending on the tension it is strung and the string pattern.

It really starts to get comfortable below the 52lbs level in a reasonably dense 16x19 pattern.

Otherwise, seriously consider hybriding it with a nice slick smooth round Poly cross.
 
I’m liking this update, but here’s an (objective?) observation: while stringing with the exact same string and tension, I’m blowing through strings in the new PA in less than half the time as the prior. Additionally, this has occurred at regular intervals, having restrung 4 times in the last 3 wks (i.e., breakage has not been a one-off, random occurrence; rather, it’s every 4-5 sessions, like clockwork).

I understand that the decreased time to restringing could be resultant of the new PA’s grommet change, but this seems a little excessive. While I’d love to believe that this is occurring because I’m such a power hitter, I’ve been taking my meds diligently lately, so I’m not quite delusional enough at the moment to even be a legend in my own mind. [emoji6]

Anyway, if others have experienced this, I would love to hear. (I didn’t see any prior postings about this, but my apologies if I missed some.)


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danbrenner

Legend
The Pd feels more solid to me. I currently own both. The handle of the Pd is also a little more robust. There is a little bit of a taper thing going on with pa that doesn’t feel as substantial. I will play again with both tomorrow night. But the last outing when I needed to win the Pd is why I went to.
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
I’m liking this update, but here’s an (objective?) observation: while stringing with the exact same string and tension, I’m blowing through strings in the new PA in less than half the time as the prior. Additionally, this has occurred at regular intervals, having restrung 4 times in the last 3 wks (i.e., breakage has not been a one-off, random occurrence; rather, it’s every 4-5 sessions, like clockwork)...
What string gauge and string type is this ?
 
What string gauge and string type is this ?

Technifibre X-One Biphase 15L in the crosses, Luxilon ALU power in the mains, 52 lbs - but again, this is the exact string and tension that I was playing with in my former PA. (And if you’re a Bab rep, pls do not suggest switching the X-One to RPM Blast [emoji23])


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avocadoz

Professional
Had a chance to hit with the Extreme G360 MP last night and it plays similar to the PA with less stiffness. You can generate easy power & spin but the most important thing is you can flatten out your shot and it'll still go in, unlike the PA. Interestingly, the Extreme's sw is listed as 328 but swings faster than the PA. It's not as fun to volley and doesn't provide the easy putaway power at net that the PA offers. Also, the stringbed is pretty dead outside of the sweetspot. Overall it's a great racquet and I'm excited to check out the pro version. My biggest knock with it though is the pj. The highlighter yellow is distracting and I had to differentiate the incoming ball from the racquet hoop.
 
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Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
I can't see myself switching to this new 2019 Aero. It is just too heavy at net, not fast at all. so I can imagine with Plus version, it will be super slow at net so my search will continue.
Fabulous new racquet! Like it a lot! Never own a modern frame racquet before either. Kind of light on the swing weight but will add some lead to get it to around the 360 figure. My strung is 327!
 

topspn

Legend
I tried out he 2019 demo this morning for a 1.5hr hit. It is less brassy then the previous iteration to an easily recognizable degree. I am guessing the demo string was RPM at around 53lbs so not optimum for comfort and this frame’s highlight certainly wouldn’t be comfort anyway. Feel is decent though in terms of connection. Predictability high on power and spin but felt some twist instability. The L3 grip a contributing factor i suspect since it would be smaller then my TC95 L4 grip. Overall, an improvement over the previous iteration just still a bit too brassy for my taste
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Fabulous new racquet! Like it a lot! Never own a modern frame racquet before either. Kind of light on the swing weight but will add some lead to get it to around the 360 figure. My strung is 327!
Yes, enjoy your standard length racket. I was never interested in that length. I am only interested in the Plus version, and only if it has SW below 328.
 
Gotta start playing against better opponents [emoji4]. Just having fun here...


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At the exulted level I'm playing at currently, my opponents are so omnipotent that even creating fractions of a second of hesitation in their immaculate pre-shot preparation is immensely valuable?
 

prjacobs

Hall of Fame
I have come to realize that when tired, this helps to keep my balls solid and deep. Tough to control when fresh though. Very easy to lose them long, or over compensate and hit the net. I have been using 2013 apd when fresh and 2019 PA when tired. Problem is, 2019 makes me more tired because of the swingweight, so i am going to experiment with more weight in my apd and gut mains for some more power.

For me, after experimenting with lots of lead placement, I now tail weight my 2013 APDs with around 5 - 7.5 grams, (matching the different frames) bringing them up to 331 grams (11.67 ounces), 6 pts HL, with a swing weight of 317. I use Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable 17L (It's thicker than advertised) @ 43lbs and get lots of power, comfort and control. It's a very soft feeling poly.
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
@dgoran is right. This is a noticeable improvement over previous version. More flex in the hoop, less hollow/brassy feeling, rock solid and stable at an all in weight of 330 grams including overgrip and dampener. This stick still has pure aero DNA (i.e. stiff, spin friendly, and powerful) but it is a little more "refined." Well done babolat. Strung with hyper g 16 at 44 lbs on a constant pull machine.
 

avocadoz

Professional
Did Babolat change the grip size? I’ve noticed the new Pure Aero’s grip now runs true to size whereas before they felt larger.
 

kailash

Hall of Fame
@dgoran is right. This is a noticeable improvement over previous version. More flex in the hoop, less hollow/brassy feeling, rock solid and stable at an all in weight of 330 grams including overgrip and dampener. This stick still has pure aero DNA (i.e. stiff, spin friendly, and powerful) but it is a little more "refined." Well done babolat. Strung with hyper g 16 at 44 lbs on a constant pull machine.
Just demoed it. I agree with the above. Better refinement over the previous. Main takeaway for me is the power and spin in a comfortable package! Still the feel is not closer to the players type of racquets; somewhat brassy as others mentioned. But i am able to win points much easier!
 
Any thoughts from fellow TT members on how this compares against a 2015 Blade 18x20 or the new Head Speed Graphene 360 Speed Pro?
 

JonnyAbs

Semi-Pro
Any thoughts from fellow TT members on how this compares against a 2015 Blade 18x20 or the new Head Speed Graphene 360 Speed Pro?
Much higher launch angle for the PA. Blade is more head heavy in feel and tougher to get around but hits a nice flat low trajectory ball. Much less spin potential with the blade. I didn't use the 360 but used the regular graphene speed pro a few years ago. It swings a bit easier than the blade, and has some more spin. However, the speed pro is more like the blade than the PA.
 

JonnyAbs

Semi-Pro
I have bailed on the PA. I am using a weighted apd now with about 8 grams in the buttcap. I like it much better. PA was hurting my shoulder, making me tired, and shooting balls too high.
 
Much higher launch angle for the PA. Blade is more head heavy in feel and tougher to get around but hits a nice flat low trajectory ball. Much less spin potential with the blade. I didn't use the 360 but used the regular graphene speed pro a few years ago. It swings a bit easier than the blade, and has some more spin. However, the speed pro is more like the blade than the PA.

Thanks for the feedback. I have used in the past the Speed Pro as that was the racquet I switched from to the 2015 Blade. Does the PA feel as comfortable as the Blade 98 or Speed Pro? I know the PA has a more open string pattern which could account for higher launch angle.
 

Shadowcash

New User
Now, everyone could congratulate me. I've got a new PA 2019.
By the way, when I searched a string instructions for this one, found a full list of PA 2019 range, included new PA+, PA Tour and others.
Check this link and sort by date:
Stringing instructions
 

prjacobs

Hall of Fame
I have bailed on the PA. I am using a weighted apd now with about 8 grams in the buttcap. I like it much better. PA was hurting my shoulder, making me tired, and shooting balls too high.

Haven’t tried the new PA yet but my APDs are just about identical to yours with 7.5 grams under the end of my grips.


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Envy

Rookie
I can’t believe people are complaining about the lack of power with the new PA when it’s still a rocket launcher compared to most racquets out there. Are you people pushers and can’t generate even a little bit of your own power? I strung this thing with Hyper G at 60 lbs and it’s still a powerful frame.

My thoughts exactly... aero lines need a bit of comfort and control from my experience with them. As My game improved, I felt the need to switch from babolats to wilson and now to low powered yonex and head racquets. I Havent tried the 2019 models yet but I feel babolat is in the right direction with the new updates. Hopefully when aeros comes close to the original APD specs I might consider trying it out.

For someone who can generate spin and power the older pure aero was too much....imho
 
Cortex at 3 and 9?

Hmm. Didn't think about that. Possible I suppose. But the VS models already have other significant points of difference so the where the Cortex is placed or if they bother with it all wouldn't matter much.

Remember the VS models are different racquets with a completely different purpose.
 
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