Babolat Pure Aero 2022

[TennisHound]

Ooo, that looks tough It looks like they’ve spread out the string pattern even more (they probably haven’t; it just looks like it in the pic above)

 

[jmacdaununder2]

Picture has the one skip pattern of OGs.

 

[Curtennis]

I think it looks awesome. I’ll buy one for sure.

 

[Sintherius]

You’re probably right. Maybe I’m gullible. It was even the first result on DuckDuckGo

A fellow man of culture, I see

 

[A_Instead]

Flax = Auxetic

 

[ahelow]

I'm excited, 2013 is my favorite aero.

 

[Psi7]

Do we have anything new?

 

[Wilsonbro]

Did the 2013 hit big serves like the pure drive effortless?

 

[Wilsonbro]

saw the new 12 pack bag no six pack coming out

 

[n80aoag]

FLAX = LACKS FLEX

"F your elbows" -Babolat

 

[RafaNadal21]

Just curious, will there be a rafa cosmetic for the new version?

 

[TennisHound]

I would reach out to @HeadPennTennisOfficial (Andy) but he no longer exists. @Babolat Official has been such a high standard of representation, these others (also @TecnifibreOffical, @WilsonOfficial) just can’t compete. Thankfully we have @dr325i for some information.

 

[Leen]

Just curious, will there be a rafa cosmetic for the new version?

Only if he wins.

 

[Psi7]

Hi Super,

The only racquets coming out in the fall will be the new Pure Aero and Pure Aero Team. The others will be in early 2023 and the new version of the PA VS will have the same weight and balance. I can't speak to anything further at this time, or show any images, but stay tuned.

Josh

I cant find the info about Rafa paintjob but i am quite sure there wont be one right away as 1.I believe it was mentioned somewhere 2.It wouldnt make much sense to release it with new PJ update

 

[JEDI MASTER]

I cant find the info about Rafa paintjob but i am quite sure there wont be one right away as 1.I believe it was mentioned somewhere 2.It wouldnt make much sense to release it with new PJ update

Rafa PJ probably won't be released til a year after... they want you to buy the new ones twice...

 

[marquette100]

Can't wait to see what it looks like.

 

[JonnyAbs]

Can't wait to see what it looks like.

we have provided you with the knowledge to find it.

 

[Jay_The_Nomad]

I’m really hoping they keep the swing weight of the current racquet for the new pure aero. Could be a little heavier. But I think it’s the sweet spot.

Put the lighter one on the lite/team version for those who wants a lighter one.

 

[GimmeBackMyDog]

Just ordered a Pure Strike. Should be here in a day or two.

But I just picked up tennis again after 30 years and have been learning to play on a couple Pure Aeros (2010 and 2017).

I like the paint job in the picture. I'm sure I'll be picking one of these up next month when it comes out.

Probably throw some of the orange tennis warehouse RPM Blast strings and make a Halloween Edition out of it.

 

[Psi7]

Rafa PJ probably won't be released til a year after... they want you to buy the new ones twice...

yep, thats what i meant with my reply

 

[jace112]

Intensely tested this new PA, and really find it appealing. Slightly better feel, comfort. Maybe a bit less powerful than the previous gen.

We did a nice comparison with VCore 100, new Extreme MP 2022...

 

[Psi7]

Intensely tested this new PA, and really find it appealing. Slightly better feel, comfort. Maybe a bit less powerful than the previous gen.

We did a nice comparison with VCore 100, new Extreme MP 2022...

Tell us more And if possible comparison with Ezone 98 especially in terms on feel/comfort.

 

[jace112]

EZone 98 is another beast, better feel (but VCore 98 is better for me), far more less power...

Power : VCore 100 < Extreme 2022 < Pure Aero 2022
Manoeuvrability : VCore 100 < Extreme 2022 << Pure Aero 2022

 

[yessir]

EZone 98 is another beast, better feel (but VCore 98 is better for me), far more less power...

Power : VCore 100 < Extreme 2022 < Pure Aero 2022
Manoeuvrability : VCore 100 < Extreme 2022 << Pure Aero 2022

What has changed with the new extreme 2022? I guess you are talking about the Extreme Mp 2022. Thanks

 

[jace112]

Extreme MP 2022, balance is now 320 mm (was 325 mm)

 

[Psi7]

EZone 98 is another beast, better feel (but VCore 98 is better for me), far more less power...

Power : VCore 100 < Extreme 2022 < Pure Aero 2022
Manoeuvrability : VCore 100 < Extreme 2022 << Pure Aero 2022

My golfer's elbow problems will have the most to say in this contest. I have good technique as i am past player with very strong forehand and i think i think i can easily generate similar power. Past top 100 atp mentioned to me that my forehand was significantly better with Aero(comparing to Vcore) last year but i'll take less power > no more elbow pain 100/100. Vcore has similar stiffness so i dont think changing to that one would make any sense at all so it will be Ezone 98 or new Aero unless something else happens during tests like the love with Vcore Pro 100 or Head Speed.

For now i can just speculate that this will end up with this two with big edge to Yonex though as even though i love Aero, new design(dont like that blue colours on Ezone) etc, that plush feel many say about Yonex might make a difference for me

Thats why i was asking if there is anything significant from aero for being more elbow friendly

 

[Yamin]

My golfer's elbow problems will have the most to say in this contest. I have good technique as i am past player with very strong forehand and i think i think i can easily generate similar power. Past top 100 atp mentioned to me that my forehand was significantly better with Aero(comparing to Vcore) last year but i'll take less power > no more elbow pain 100/100. Vcore has similar stiffness so i dont think changing to that one would make any sense at all so it will be Ezone 98 or new Aero unless something else happens during tests like the love with Vcore Pro 100 or Head Speed.

For now i can just speculate that this will end up with this two with big edge to Yonex though as even though i love Aero, new design(dont like that blue colours on Ezone) etc, that plush feel many say about Yonex might make a difference for me

Thats why i was asking if there is anything significant from aero for being more elbow friendly

Have you tried the current pure aero? Softer for me than the yonex you've mentioned. Have had no interest in babolat until this gen... the dampening works decently.

 

[Psi7]

Have you tried the current pure aero? Softer for me than the yonex you've mentioned. Have had no interest in babolat until this gen... the dampening works decently.

Dont tell me that hehe. Yes i have Aero Rafa edition. Changed string to PTP from Blast and noticed big difference right away, but still think i have to go with something more friendly for my GE. I've talked about it a lot in different posts but had to postpone testing racquets a little bit as string changed a lot and i want to do one thing a time.

After 2 sessions though my pain completely went away, but it was back yesterday. A little one though so maybe it also need time to adjust/recover. Earlier i played just 3 hours with it and loved the feeling. Was no pain at all so i am sure this is doing work, maybe last hour before it broke yesterday wasnt that "soft" anymore. Also played back to back while earlier i had to take 2-3 days off between games. There are a lot of factors definitely but i am really focused on making this pain go away completely and if i can do it with a little bit softer racquet i have to do it, even if it makes small difference.

 

[TennisHound]

Intensely tested this new PA, and really find it appealing. Slightly better feel, comfort. Maybe a bit less powerful than the previous gen.

We did a nice comparison with VCore 100, new Extreme MP 2022...

Was the string pattern on this new PA tighter than previous version?

Its funny how right before a new release, posters appear virtually out of nowhere, saying, “I hit with it, and it was great, I liked it a lot. It felt great in the hand. That’s all I can give.” Lol

 

[jace112]

Don't know if your message was intended directly to me, but I am not really a guy coming from nowhere. I come from Paris
I took a picture trying to compare the 2 string patterns, they look almost identical to me. To be sure, I'd have to compare the grommets
The 2022 is still a PA, with a slightly better muted feel, less harsh.
I had 3 PA,3 PA Team, and nearly 20 guys on courts giving their feedback. QC was decent on the 6 frames though.
RPM Blast / RPM Power / RPM Team @ 22/21 kg, clay and greenset

 

[atatu]

Don't know if your message was intended directly to me, but I am not really a guy coming from nowhere. I come from Paris
I took a picture trying to compare the 2 string patterns, they look almost identical to me. To be sure, I'd have to compare the grommets
The 2022 is still a PA, with a slightly better muted feel, less harsh.
I had 3 PA,3 PA Team, and nearly 20 guys on courts giving their feedback. QC was decent on the 6 frames though.
RPM Blast / RPM Power / RPM Team @ 22/21 kg, clay and greenset

Thanks ! Great info.

 

[TennisHound]

Don't know if your message was intended directly to me, but I am not really a guy coming from nowhere. I come from Paris
I took a picture trying to compare the 2 string patterns, they look almost identical to me. To be sure, I'd have to compare the grommets
The 2022 is still a PA, with a slightly better muted feel, less harsh.
I had 3 PA,3 PA Team, and nearly 20 guys on courts giving their feedback. QC was decent on the 6 frames though.
RPM Blast / RPM Power / RPM Team @ 22/21 kg, clay and greenset

That’s what I figured. Babalot will keep the same string pattern. The new change - BNG (Bold New Graphics).

Who was it that posted that bs about going back to 2013?

 

[gymaddict]

The statement about "going back to 2013" is based on a rumor shared earlier in this thread. Search this phrase in google to find the posting. "The 2023 Pure Aero (10.6oz) now offers a tighter/more optimized string pattern (we are going back to the old 2013 Aero Pro Drive pattern – skip @ 8…our most popular Aero ever made)."

 

[TennisHound]

The statement about "going back to 2013" is based on a rumor shared earlier in this thread. Search this phrase in google to find the posting. "The 2023 Pure Aero (10.6oz) now offers a tighter/more optimized string pattern (we are going back to the old 2013 Aero Pro Drive pattern – skip @ 8…our most popular Aero ever made)."

Eh it was rhetorical, I already know who posted it.

 

[JonnyAbs]

I posted it here. I didn't write it. Was just sharing what I found via a Google search.

FWIW, in the Instagram post that was also shared on here a page or 2 back, the poster also said that the string pattern is tighter.

Why you would put all of your faith into @jace112's eyeball comparison of the strings when he admits he hasn't looked at the grommets, and use that as a basis for going against what you were previously told, makes no sense to me. Honestly, neither could be right and we won't know for sure until it is verified for certain, but my money would be on the fact that it will be a tighter pattern based on a few sources. Time will tell.

 

[Jay_The_Nomad]

Do people really feel much of a difference with the regular APD open string pattern vs. Current PA open string pattern?

Is it all in the mind? Ive been using my regular APD (gen 1 black color) and the new PA back and forth with the same strings and tension and the biggest difference seems to be the frame materials. And maybe the strings break a little faster for me on the current gen PA. But I’m not sure.

For me the biggest perceivable difference is that the current PA feels much softer and comfortable even when stock form at 320g with strings. The old gen ball APD feels more harsh even when weighted up to 335g. And I definitely get more power on the current gen PA. Maybe my APD frames have gone dead…dead as a dodo.

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

Do people really feel much of a difference with the regular APD open string pattern vs. Current PA open string pattern?

Is it all in the mind? Ive been using my regular APD (gen 1 black color) and the new PA back and forth with the same strings and tension and the biggest difference seems to be the frame materials. And maybe the strings break a little faster for me on the current gen PA. But I’m not sure.

For me the biggest perceivable difference is that the current PA feels much softer and comfortable even when stock form at 320g with strings. The old gen ball APD feels more harsh even when weighted up to 335g. And I definitely get more power on the current gen PA. Maybe my APD frames have gone dead…dead as a dodo.

I always thought APD is more controlled, PA more power. PA launches the ball more and more vulnerable to going too high or long out of court. APD lower trajectory. Should be less topspin on the APD

 

[jmacdaununder2]

Must be some difference if Nadal opted to stick with the old string pattern...

 

[Jay_The_Nomad]

Must be some difference if Nadal opted to stick with the old string pattern...

I didn’t say there is no difference between the racquets.

 

[Curtennis]

Must be some difference if Nadal opted to stick with the old string pattern...

Most pros would rather not switch racquets at all. It has little to do with which one they like more. It’s about consistency.

 

[David Le]

Do people really feel much of a difference with the regular APD open string pattern vs. Current PA open string pattern?

Is it all in the mind? Ive been using my regular APD (gen 1 black color) and the new PA back and forth with the same strings and tension and the biggest difference seems to be the frame materials. And maybe the strings break a little faster for me on the current gen PA. But I’m not sure.

For me the biggest perceivable difference is that the current PA feels much softer and comfortable even when stock form at 320g with strings. The old gen ball APD feels more harsh even when weighted up to 335g. And I definitely get more power on the current gen PA. Maybe my APD frames have gone dead…dead as a dodo.

Yes. The ball launches much higher given the longer mains in the middle for the PA. As much as free power and extra spin I’d like, I rather take the APD, especially the original.

 

[jmacdaununder2]

Nadal actually tried the new pattern presumably looking for improvement then went back to his old one.

 

[JonnyAbs]

Nadal actually tried the new pattern presumably looking for improvement then went back to his old one.

Yeah I remember reading he had consistency issues. He didn't do very well that year and I think that's why.

I agree with @David Le and @Aestheticsaboveallelse in that the pure aero would just launch the ball long too much. I had the same issue with the 2018+ pure drive. I hope both racquets go back to the previous standard string pattern with a 320-325 sw. 2013 APD and 2015 PD are lacking a bit with their sub 320 sw's.

 

[TennisHound]

Do people really feel much of a difference with the regular APD open string pattern vs. Current PA open string pattern?

Is it all in the mind? Ive been using my regular APD (gen 1 black color) and the new PA back and forth with the same strings and tension and the biggest difference seems to be the frame materials. And maybe the strings break a little faster for me on the current gen PA. But I’m not sure.

For me the biggest perceivable difference is that the current PA feels much softer and comfortable even when stock form at 320g with strings. The old gen ball APD feels more harsh even when weighted up to 335g. And I definitely get more power on the current gen PA. Maybe my APD frames have gone dead…dead as a dodo.

That’s a good point. Maybe you’re right. Will have to wait and see…

 

[Jay_The_Nomad]

I always thought APD is more controlled, PA more power. PA launches the ball more and more vulnerable to going too high or long out of court. APD lower trajectory. Should be less topspin on the APD

Yes the current PAs have more power. But it’s a good kind of power in the sense that I get something out of what I put in. Maybe a little bit too much at times particularly if I flatten it out and really have a crack.

But I dont really perceive a higher trajectory than the OG APD. Or any less directional control. Also spin

Yeah I remember reading he had consistency issues. He didn't do very well that year and I think that's why.

I agree with @David Le and @Aestheticsaboveallelse in that the pure aero would just launch the ball long too much. I had the same issue with the 2018+ pure drive. I hope both racquets go back to the previous standard string pattern with a 320-325 sw. 2013 APD and 2015 PD are lacking a bit with their sub 320 sw's.

I’m a bit hesitant to blame it on the string pattern based on my play testing. I didn’t really perceive much difference if any in terms of directional control or spin production. I typically hit with good spin on the OG APD and my hitting partners all perceived no extra spin or difference in the ball I was producing.

Most of the differences was down to what I felt and my comfort and the sensation. I did find I produced marginally more power and easier depth without having to put my foot on the gas with the heavier APD OG. But I think that could be down to the frame materials and the possibility the OG APD frames I’ve got are really old and probably very very dead. I didn’t really perceive any issues with flattening the ball or ball trajectory. BothOG APD and current PA felt almost identical especially when I compare how they play side by side with a standard close string pattern version of the pure strike which I also own. The close pattern pure strike definitely feels like it has a lower trajectory and more response in terms of directional control. But once again it is perceived feeling. With some slight adjustments I can produce the exact same balls with either the pure strike or pure aero or OG APD with some adjustments.

Whatever differences there are, I suspect it is minuscule and most likelydue to the frame materials.

But I guess we should watch this space. It’s tough to be conclusive when so many parameters are different even when using the exact same strings and tension. I’ll be keen to demo the new PA with the current PA.

 

[TennisHound]

Whew, that’s a lot of reading. It looks good and we’ll all try it. Waiting on pics

 

[David Le]

Also keep in mind that whether testing/playing with any APD or PA, we all play different in terms with playing style and technique. One might say this or the other might say that, and so on.

 

[jace112]

https://imgur.com/GJ3xHbG

 

[TennisHound]

https://imgur.com/GJ3xHbG

Its hard to tell what racquet your using. It looks like a Babolat, but I’m not sure.

 

[tx10is]

Side by side, 2023 VS 2013

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This is NOT what the new Pure Aero looks like. I just saw the new racquet in hand. It has a glossy metallic like finish with white, black, silver, yellow colors in a crazy cool pattern going around racquet and throat. It is no longer the yellow banana. Some retailers are already receiving some although it isn't for sale yet. I actually kind of like it. It's probably going to sell like crazy.