Discussion in 'Stringing Techniques / Stringing Machines' started by ericsson, Feb 6, 2010.
The hook thing seems crazy, I can't see a good reason for using them at all in that you have hands for the stringbed and pliers for pulling stuff through, seems weird. The different awls I can sort of understand.
I've only ever had to use a set of pliers, a set of cutters, a starting clamp, a "flare it" for new grommets, a grommet grinder and occasionally one old awl in 10yrs. Seems weird to see 15 types of awl . Mind you I've never done a woodie, perhaps that's the key...
origmamr, my apologies for not being more clear about the hook device.
When putting a cross string thru a blocked grommet, one uses the hook on the string (main outside the frame that is blocking the grommet) to pull it out of the way.
As for all the awls, I agree with you. No need. I mostly use a a very old awl, which is relatively short. I have a longer awl I use every once in a while because it is much thinner, but use it sparingly. Use the starting clamp, cam action, nail clippers, and needle nose pliers.
Here is a Babolat Tool set I had, which had several different awls. I imagine as you said they are more realistic for wooking with woodies.
Ah ok I see what you mean. Never really been a huge issue for me but then I imagine it would be if you string a lot of gut or softer string as you can just cut a good tip and push it through which is fine with stiffer string. I tend to do it similar to YuLitle's video i.e. make a good tip and then push through with the pliers close to the frame.
Good looking set. Will have to see if I can get round my friend's house soon. He strings a lot of "rackets" racquets (it's kind of like Squash but older, bigger court etc..etc.. in case you don't know about it) which are very similar to old woodies. I'll ask him about the different awls.
Edit: If you interested I posted about "rackets" here: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=3178678&postcount=7
^^Orig, great link. Thanks for sharing. Any update on the definition of some of these tools?
Got round his place for a beer before I took off on work travel. He really didn't know much about it to be honest when I showed him this thread. He did ogle some of the machines though . He had one of those hooks and confirmed that he used it to hold back string to pass blocked grommets. Other than that he has two normal straight awls. One of them he uses to jam in the holes to keep the grommet open when two strings are needed. The other line any other awl. Not very revelatory unfortunately.
He did ask what the card was about on the 4002 below. Does it contain some kind of presets for each user or similar? Or is it just to "unlock" the machine?
^^her orig, Thanks for the info. Your friends use of awls seems similar to mine. As for the Babolat Card pictured, you could see it's use in the video provided below. The card is designed to use for the stringer to appoint one card per customer (or more). When you swipe it, it provides the stringer all sorts of information seen on the monitor such as: name of customer, racquet, tension, string, measurements of racquet [weight, stiffness, balance, etc], address, number of string jobs, how frequently they string, etc, etc,. One could also hook up an RDC to the machine, and it will automatically transfer all the data from the RDC to the clients information. Very cutting edge.
Ah ok I understand. I wasn't clear before on whether it was one per customer or one per stringer w/ various preference setups if you see what I mean. Also whether the information was stored on the card or on the machine but it sounds like it's probably the machine and the card "unlocks" that profile.
Be interesting to see what would happen if you tried the card on another (same model or later) machine. Would you be able to keep all that information you spent time collating when you upgrade.....not an issue for the personal stringer but for the professional (say **** for example) perhaps worth it.
ah, I see. I could understand where it may be confusing. The information, from my understanding could actually be stored on both the card, and in the profile of the person in the computer base.
Yes, as I understand it, if you save the info onto the card, you could then use the card on another machine, and upload the info.
Thanks for the photos, drak.
Remember seeing this one and thinking..great for tournament stringer getting the same players back each year...being able to store all their info. on a card.
As you wrote, hooking up with the RDC was another advantage. It was cutting edge then , as is the Baiirdo now! Yonex have also got some good machines.
Of course the 4002 is not that portable and then the Star 4 is looking pretty good...for **** anyway as they have weight restriction issues with the airlines.
^Agree. This machine is great for tournament stringing, especially if you have the same players coming back. Unfortunately, as you stated>> too heavy and perhaps tempermental to lug around with all the computer stuff going on.
The 4002 looks like some sort of industrial copying machine.
Just got word that Janneman, is selling his 5502. It seems the machine is having problems with the tension head.
There is another 5502 being sold on e*b*a*y germany, and it is in very good conidition. However, the seller does not offer shipping, and price tag is a bit much at about 3500 euros.
Some really sweet machines here, what are they like to string on. Might haave a look on fleabay at some of these machines see if any are for sale and how much one would set me back
on a side note erricson any idea on the time frame of the sale of your babolat pure drive?
The Babolats are all awesome to string on. Very addictive. As for price, it depends. A star 5 could cost you approx 2,000 used and 3,300 new.
A star 3 could be about 1000, sensor 3,500 and sensor expert upwards of 8,000. All depends.
is that USD or GBP or EURO
Ground, sorry about that. The prices I quoted are USD.
Somewhere next week i think, time is a precious thing...
ps: there might be two gen I for sale, don't know yet.
^^ericsson, no more photos of machines??? I have a few I found, and as soon as I get a chance will be updating them.
Hoping you have some more to share with us.
Hi Drak, i have some more, as soon i find the time i will post them, a little busy lately...
I received a great email from our very own Janneman from the Netherlands.
He asked if I could share some of the photos of his 3502. Photos and machine are beautiful. He also included a photo with him and one of my favorite players, Robin Soderling. Very nice of him.
Thanks for the photos, Janneman.
Nice! Are those magnetic base clamps?
^^^yes. the tension head also raises to the level of the racquet once past the throat, so the pull is completely straight, rather than downwards.
Too bad we never get to see those machines here in the States. Those shield plates look like they might lift up if snagged.
^^^Yeah. I have been hunting for a 3502 or 5502 for a while now. Very hard to find. Maybe one day.
How the heck is this an old machine? It uses newer technology than the Sensor and Star 5
I'd even settle for a 3002. Wishful thinking.
Awesome thread. I love my Star 3. I must take some picks.
Drak, you will have more luck in Europe if you can carry the shipping ;-)
Saw this one for sale. however asking price is too much.
Carefull with these old machines. Babolat might not service them anymore...
Interesting that they make such a high end machine and its only a single clamp machine.
Wow! This is one of the coolest threads out there! I am very jealous of anyone who owns any of these machines! Thanks for putting such a good collection of photos and details, very interesting indeed.
My local tennis shop has a Sensor Expert and a pretty old one with a dial to enter tension (not sure what model, looks like a Star 3 I think) and they look super cool. Might be able to string on my clubs sensor dual at some point.
Babolat History pictures
Here some nice photo's from Babolat.
Is Drakulie on vacation, I send him weeks ago a lot of Babolat photo's ?
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sorry , excuses for the wrong photo's !!
Here are the photo's.
Mine first upload was wrong, sorry.
very cool thread! thanks guys!!!
Hi Janneman, thanks a lot for the pics especially the dropweight from Babolat, i knew about it but forgot the name and couldnt find the pic since then, nice to see it back!
Thanks again for the great thread Never thought I would become a proud owner of a Babolat Machine!
For all the mono clamp users, how do you adjust the base so that it locks in the middle like it is supposed to. Struggling to work it out.
Thanks in advance
janneman, thanks for the incredible photos. Much appreciated.
Just a heads up for anyone in the UK. There is a 4002 up on craigslist for £1800. Looks in pretty good nick, even though the price is slightly steep (just under $3000). If only I had that money!
You guys may want to read this first before buying it in UK
http://www.grand slam stringers .com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1296338900
:O Thanks for pointing that one out! Such a shame you get people like this. Thanks to Liam for finding that out as well!
It's been awhile but i'm back with some more Babolat stuff ;-)
Any ideas where I could find a new spring that's inside swivel base clamp? It doesn't effect stringing, but would be nice to have.
When will see see the star 6 or an upgrade from the star 5?
Great updates, Ericson. Thanks!
No problem Drak, if i have the time i will post some photos of my personal stringing machine...
Amazing thread guys. Thank You very much for all the contributions. Great History lesson here
Great thread! I'm looking for buy a 3001 stringing machine but parts are no longer available in France... Any advices? What do you think about this machine and the durability? Sorry for my english but i'm a french guy...
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