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Backhand Slice Drive
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Absolute BS.
Limpinhitter
G.O.A.T.
Thanks for your informative and respectful comment.
Not a bad looking slice backhand. I think keeping the left hand on the racket a little longer will help with stability.
mntlblok
Hall of Fame
Major angular momentum built up with massive change in racket face angle, and plenty of underspin developed from that rapid dropping of the hand height from shoulder to belly button level. Not sure what would need stabilizing. . .
Looks like she can knock the snot out of a slice backhand, but she sure doesn't accomplish it in the manner that she described. Wonder if she actually looked at that slow motion swing.
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nothinButTennis
Rookie
Lot of semi open stands FH from wilander in 1985!
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
http://www.tennistv.com/match/johanna-larsson-v-roberta-vinci/gf2n9pjov5tr1d8ml4gzp4j33
Insane good Backhand slice by Roberta Vinci......this is sick good slice. no wonder she beat Serena last year.
Insane good Backhand slice by Roberta Vinci......this is sick good slice. no wonder she beat Serena last year.
10isMaestro
Semi-Pro
Look at Rosewall from 1:39 onwards. He hits a high quality slice around 1:40 and even strike one while backing up around 1:51. It is a simple gesture, but a good slice should never feel like it's a lot of work and it can still give you either more of a drive or more action through small adjustments.
If you insist on looking at a contemporary player, here is the undisputed slice king. Fun fact, Federer can hit his slice backhand with more topspin than Nadal's topspin forehand, playing some of them in the vicinity of a second serve with around 5,300 rpm!
What you see in the video that contrasts with Rosewall is how aggressive Federer is with his downward swing. Part of it is due to the fact that he is attacking balls on the rise and must cope with higher contact points. The more aggressive slope does help drive the ball down due to friction while also creating major spin. However, you see Federer takes a shot at a lower ball in this video where he gets to take his time and he still seems to be more aggressive. With that being said, both strokes have a lot in common. For instance, both players supinate their forearm slightly prior contact and both of them start out their forward swing with a considerably open string bed.
If I had any advice to give to an amateur, except if he is quite an advanced player or already possess a fine slice, it would be to hit more like Rosewall and less like Federer. The shallower swing path of Rosewall makes enjoying a clean contact so much easier. If you want to control a point, you need to be in control of the ball at all time. You're quite often better off with a slightly less good quality of a shot, but being able to pick the right shot than to perfectly execute the wrong shot.
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JohnYandell
Hall of Fame
10is,
Well said.
Well said.
3fees
G.O.A.T.
You'll have to look for videos on Ken Rosewall he used it , slice typically has side or underspin or combo of both, backhand slice drive is a compromise putting more power into the stroke rather than floating it or spinning it, with enough practice you can drive the slice and it will move when it hits the ground, even slightly kick at your opponent, its a tennis stroke of very accomplished pro dimensions-Ken Rosewall dimensions, while looking for Rosewall watch his footwork its some of the best ever, his anticipation and footwrok was a joy watch, I have seen very few that have that balance on the entire tennis court-everywhere...Rosewall is one in that group.
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mntlblok
Hall of Fame
Why should it be any more difficult to learn a knifing, slice backhand than a modern topspin forehand? (I do have a theory
)Oh, and there's lots of *very* good stuff in that 1954 video - stuff that hasn't changed a bit to date.
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
I heard now Ashley Barty has the best slice backhand in WTA. I am hearing it is even better than Graff's slice backhand.
Hmgraphite1
Hall of Fame
Yeah she won with it today against Wang, but fh was all over the placeI heard now Ashley Barty has the best slice backhand in WTA. I am hearing it is even better than Graff's slice backhand.
Dragy
G.O.A.T.
I'd call Barty's slice closer to Fed's - lots of spin. Not that drive slice BH of XX tennis players.I heard now Ashley Barty has the best slice backhand in WTA. I am hearing it is even better than Graff's slice backhand.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Disagree. her slice is carbon copy of drive slice backhands that great Aussies like Rosewall is known for. it isn't that super difficult chop down slice that fed uses.
Smarticus523
New User
You need a really heavy racquet to make this work. The glancing blow of a downward slice motion creates momentum and thus stability at the point of contact. Hitting straight through the ball puts a lot of stress on the wrist and racquet that will likely lead to injury if used too often against a fast/heavy incoming shot.A nearly level swing, almost parallel to the ground, with a slightly open racquet face at contact will produce a drive slice. Rosewall hit the quintessential drive slice backhand. Here is a gif of Rosewall's backhand. Notice the closed stance, shoulder turn and the contact point back behind his lead foot.
Here's a side view of a young Rosewall backhand. His contact is more out front because he is hitting cross court.
http://makeagif.com/D12eSV
Imagine pushing a man sideways on a bicycle that is sitting still and then trying to push the same man over sideways as he pedals by at 20 mph. It will be much harder because he has forward momentum.
Curious
Talk Tennis Guru
Sadly limpinhitter was last seen here 7 months ago.
