Bad Look For Olympics. Alcaraz First Round Opponent: #300 Hady Habib From Lebanon.

Better_Call_Raul said:
In a Grand Slam you are guaranteed a quality opponent ranked in the Top 128. At worst, an up and coming young wild card.
Here we have Habib from Lebanon. Ranked #300.
:rolleyes:
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Lets respect the athletes. While you have a need to make a thread this guy from Lebanon is the best in his country and is fighting for medal.

Many low ranked players have won medal because its about nationalism and patriotism as well.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Lets respect the athletes. While you have a need to make a thread this guy from Lebanon is the best in his country and is fighting for medal.

Many low ranked players have won medal because its about nationalism and patriotism as well.
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Many people are equating Olympics to a Grand Slam. Many are even saying the Olympics > Grand Slam.
But Olympics are three sets instead of five sets. With fewer rounds. And the quality of opponents are lower.
This guy is not worthy of playing in a Grand Slam. Not even close.
Outside of Beirut, who is even going to bother watching this faux match?
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
In a Grand Slam you are guaranteed a quality opponent ranked in the Top 128. At worst, an up and coming young wild card.
Here we have Habib from Lebanon. Ranked #300.
:rolleyes:
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what's the difference? top 128 and top 300 doesn't matter which one you are in no one knows who you are. the skill level is also not a big difference and all of them have like the same amount of ranking points anyways.
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
Many people are equating Olympics to a Grand Slam. Many are even saying the Olympics > Grand Slam.
But Olympics are three sets instead of five sets. With fewer rounds. And the quality of opponents are lower.
This guy is not worthy of playing in a Grand Slam. Not even close.
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but there are 16 grand slams in four years and one olympics in four years surely the quality of opponents , the fact that it is three sets, and there are less rounds will not make the grand slams 16 times harder?
 
GloW said:
what's the difference? top 128 and top 300 doesn't matter which one you are in no one knows who you are. the skill level is also not a big difference and all of them have like the same amount of ranking points anyways.
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Here's the difference though.

Imagine you have five top ten Spanish players, only four of them can play for a medal.

Meanwhile a ranked 300 gets a direct entry because he is from a nation that doesn't have anyone else but him.

In slams, and other events, you enter according to how good you are...here, where you are from is probably even more important.
 
Hitman said:
Here's the difference though.

Imagine you have five top ten Spanish players, only four of them can play for a medal.

Meanwhile a ranked 300 gets a direct entry because he is from a nation that doesn't have anyone else but him.

In slams, and other events, you enter according to how good you are...here, where you are from is probably even more important.
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but in grand slams they have wild cards that they give to like people ranked over #1000
 
GloW said:
but in grand slams they have wild cards that they give to like people ranked over #1000
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It doesn't mean they will give a wild card out to said player, that is on discretion. Here, if you want to enter and represent your country, they will allow you in to bring in more countries into the mix, so it is the opposite.
 
Hitman said:
It doesn't mean they will give a wild card out to said player, that is on discretion. Here, if you want to enter and represent your country, they will allow you in to bring in more countries into the mix, so it is the opposite.
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if this was roland garros half of the entire draw would be filled with french players doesn't matter their ranking top 5000 or not and i'm pretty sure those top 5000 players could not beat the best player in lebanon for example or any other country.
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
Many people are equating Olympics to a Grand Slam. Many are even saying the Olympics > Grand Slam.
But Olympics are three sets instead of five sets. With fewer rounds. And the quality of opponents are lower.
This guy is not worthy of playing in a Grand Slam. Not even close.
Outside of Beirut, who is even going to bother watching this faux match?
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Olympics is Olympics and slams are slams

Both are having pros and cons. For Olympics, it comes with huge pressure of winning for your Country. Just like DC in the past.
 
The Bad Look part of it is not that the player is #300, it’s that he’s actually American. The Olympics rules are kind of messed up if they let you into the draw based on where your parents immigrated from.
 
travlerajm said:
The Bad Look part of it is not that the player is #300, it’s that he’s actually American. The Olympics rules are kind of messed up if they let you into the draw based on where your parents immigrated from.
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Did not know this. That makes it far worse. He was born in America. Played at Texas A&M.
Had thought he was an underdog player that was trained in Lebanon. So much for the "medalling for your country" false narrative.

nolefam_2024 said:
Many low ranked players have won medal because its about nationalism and patriotism as well.
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He was born and trained in America.
:rolleyes:
 
GloW said:
if this was roland garros half of the entire draw would be filled with french players doesn't matter their ranking top 5000 or not and i'm pretty sure those top 5000 players could not beat the best player in lebanon for example or any other country.
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Yes, but you still would not block someone who is the top 10, but is ranked 5th for their country from getting into the draw.

You're missing the main point here.
 
Olympic Men's Singles Entrants:
  1. Novak Djokovic (Serbia) - Age: 37, Ranking: 1
  2. Carlos Alcaraz (Spain) - Age: 21, Ranking: 2
  3. Alexander Zverev (Germany) - Age: 27, Ranking: 5
  4. Daniil Medvedev (Russia) - Age: 28, Ranking: 3
  5. Alex de Minaur (Australia) - Age: 25, Ranking: 11
  6. Casper Ruud (Norway) - Age: 25, Ranking: 9
  7. Taylor Fritz (USA) - Age: 26, Ranking: 8
  8. Stefanos Tsitsipas (Greece) - Age: 25, Ranking: 7
  9. Tommy Paul (USA) - Age: 27, Ranking: 14
  10. Ugo Humbert (France) - Age: 26, Ranking: 26
  11. Lorenzo Musetti (Italy) - Age: 22, Ranking: 18
  12. Sebastián Báez (Argentina) - Age: 23, Ranking: 23
  13. Félix Auger-Aliassime (Canada) - Age: 23, Ranking: 15
  14. Arthur Fils (France) - Age: 20, Ranking: 36
  15. Alejandro Tabilo (Chile) - Age: 27, Ranking: 51
  16. Nicolás Jarry (Chile) - Age: 28, Ranking: 24
  17. Matthew Ebden (Australia) - Age: 36, Ranking: 78 (doubles 8)
  18. Márton Fucsovics (Hungary) - Age: 32, Ranking: 52
  19. Milos Raonic (Canada) - Age: 33, Ranking: 224
  20. Dominik Koepfer (Germany) - Age: 30, Ranking: 59
  21. Matteo Arnaldi (Italy) - Age: 23, Ranking: 47
  22. Thiago Monteiro (Brazil) - Age: 30, Ranking: 118
  23. Christopher Eubanks (USA) - Age: 28, Ranking: 32
  24. Benjamin Hassan (Lebanon) - Age: 28, Ranking: 294
  25. Moez Echargui (Tunisia) - Age: 30, Ranking: 624
  26. Daniel Evans (Great Britain) - Age: 34, Ranking: 28
  27. Zizou Bergs (Belgium) - Age: 25, Ranking: 129
  28. Jaume Munar (Spain) - Age: 27, Ranking: 88
  29. Tomas Machac (Czech Republic) - Age: 23, Ranking: 63
  30. Zhizhen Zhang (China) - Age: 27, Ranking: 54
  31. Stan Wawrinka (Switzerland) - Age: 39, Ranking: 49
  32. Sumit Nagal (India) - Age: 26, Ranking: 95
  33. Rafael Nadal (Spain) - Age: 38, Ranking: 232 (Protected Ranking)
  34. Denis Shapovalov (Canada) - Age: 25, Ranking: 29
  35. Karen Khachanov (Russia) - Age: 28, Ranking: 16
  36. Borna Coric (Croatia) - Age: 27, Ranking: 37
  37. Hubert Hurkacz (Poland) - Age: 27, Ranking: 17
  38. Andrey Rublev (Russia) - Age: 26, Ranking: 6
  39. Diego Schwartzman (Argentina) - Age: 31, Ranking: 93
  40. Grigor Dimitrov (Bulgaria) - Age: 33, Ranking: 19
  41. Frances Tiafoe (USA) - Age: 26, Ranking: 10
  42. John Isner (USA) - Age: 39, Ranking: 157
  43. Kei Nishikori (Japan) - Age: 34, Ranking: 353
  44. Gael Monfils (France) - Age: 37, Ranking: 35
  45. David Goffin (Belgium) - Age: 33, Ranking: 105
  46. Pablo Carreno Busta (Spain) - Age: 32, Ranking: 64
  47. Roberto Bautista Agut (Spain) - Age: 36, Ranking: 56
  48. Fabio Fognini (Italy) - Age: 37, Ranking: 124
  49. Adrian Mannarino (France) - Age: 36, Ranking: 22
  50. Alexei Popyrin (Australia) - Age: 24, Ranking: 40
  51. Yoshihito Nishioka (Japan) - Age: 28, Ranking: 45
  52. Lloyd Harris (South Africa) - Age: 27, Ranking: 177
  53. Albert Ramos-Vinolas (Spain) - Age: 36, Ranking: 72
  54. Laslo Djere (Serbia) - Age: 29, Ranking: 38
  55. Mikael Ymer (Sweden) - Age: 25, Ranking: 69
  56. Alex Molcan (Slovakia) - Age: 26, Ranking: 83
  57. Emil Ruusuvuori (Finland) - Age: 25, Ranking: 57
  58. Pedro Cachin (Argentina) - Age: 29, Ranking: 75
  59. Hugo Gaston (France) - Age: 23, Ranking: 97
  60. Marc-Andrea Huesler (Switzerland) - Age: 28, Ranking: 198
  61. Thanasi Kokkinakis (Australia) - Age: 28, Ranking: 84
  62. Corentin Moutet (France) - Age: 25, Ranking: 71
  63. Jack Draper (Great Britain) - Age: 22, Ranking: 42
  64. Hady Habib (Lebanon) - Age: 25, Ranking: 341
 
jeroenn said:
Didn't djoko lose a set against a 250+ ranked player earlier this year?
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This was already explained in original post:
Better_Call_Raul said:
In a Grand Slam you are guaranteed a quality opponent ranked in the Top 128. At worst, an up and coming young wild card.
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In this case Wimbledon issued a wild card to the young local Fearnley whom Djoker defeated just 22 days after knee surgery.
Practically every player in Wimbledon is ranked in Top 150 but for handful of wild cards issued to young promising locals.

Gentlemen's Singles wild cards for Wimbledon 2024 :
  1. Liam Broady (GBR)
  2. Charles Broom (GBR)
  3. Jan Choinski (GBR)
  4. Jacob Fearnley (GBR)
  5. Arthur Fery (GBR)
  6. Billy Harris (GBR)
  7. Paul Jubb (GBR)
  8. Henry Searle (GBR)
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
This was already explained in original post:


In this case Wimbledon issued a wild card to the young local Fearnley whom Djoker defeated just 22 days after knee surgery.
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Actually, I meant Djokovic in the Australian Open where he played someone ranked 273 (IIRC) and lost a set. EDIT: and he lost to nardi at IW too, ranked 123 at that time.

Olympics is olympics. I don't see what the bad look is.
 
Better_Call_Raul said:
Many people are equating Olympics to a Grand Slam. Many are even saying the Olympics > Grand Slam.
But Olympics are three sets instead of five sets. With fewer rounds. And the quality of opponents are lower.
This guy is not worthy of playing in a Grand Slam. Not even close.
Outside of Beirut, who is even going to bother watching this faux match?
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And how is a draw with Kopriva, Fearnley, Popyrin, Runelol, Bye and Musetti ?
 
It's a similar deal for -many- sports in the Olympics, which are, as someone above stated, the Olympics. No bad look, other than this thread.
 
Hitman said:
The slam target has nothing to do with Olympic Gold. Nadal has it also, he still falls short of Djokovic's 24.

The slam target is 24, you get to it by winnings slams.

It's OK to hate, I get that, but don't lose your common sense over it man.
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To each their own. To be part of the big table, I dont think he needs 24 majors with or without OSG,

We have to evaluate the overall body of work done over Carlos's career to determine if he made it or not. I think wiki stats only do it for some but context and how you moved the sport is more important for me.
 
ND-13 said:
To each their own. To be part of the big table, I dont think he needs 24 majors with or without OSG,

We have to evaluate the overall body of work done over Carlos's career to determine if he made it or not. I think wiki stats only do it for some but context and how you moved the sport is more important for me.
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The slam target and sitting at the table are two different things.

The slam target, which you brought up can ONLY be captured by winning more slams. No other title can be seen as a replacement.

Now, if you want to talk GOAT, you can have your subjective views, but slam target is objectively 24, and you objectively get to it by winning slams, not any other title.
 
Hitman said:
Thread is about Olympics.....but somehow it becomes about how Djokovic's slam record must fall, because he built it by crushing Federer's soul according to him. Or maybe there is a hope the pain will go away once Djokovic's falls, because Federer isn't on top, it has to be anyone but Djokovic as the next best thing. :)
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If ever there was a perfect example of Djokovic Derangement Syndrome it's ND-13. :laughing: Just let it go man.
 
There is a second player listed as playing for Lebanon (Benjamin Hassan). But the ATP site had him as playing for Germany (his country of birth) through June 2024. He conveniently switched countries this month.
 
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