Discussion in 'Pros' Racquets and Gear' started by Noveson, Jun 28, 2008.
It' s like James Blake playing his Dunlop stick the whole time he was with Prince...
I think it is a paintjob too. I am just a bit confused tho. Perhaps the new 315 is a different mold to the old Fischer. On the TF website, it is advertised as a 100 sq. in. head. Isn't the Fischer a 98sq. in. head??? Maybe Baggy is using the 98 Fischer mold, which is painted to look like the NEW TF 315..... Also, what is the stiffness like on the new frame? The old Fischer is flexible, but normally the TFlash models have been stiff.....
Firstly don't get too tied into all this head size stuff. A racquet can be measured inside the frame and its 98 or outside and its 100, or in the case of the fight 97 for the 325 and 98 for the 335 which is now 95. I put my old 325 on top of the new model and could not see any difference in head size and by calling it 100 it gives it more of a new identity.
None of the new models had any flex stated on the decals so I could only compare to how I remember the Fischers playing from many years ago and it seemed about as close as possible but bear in it was strung fairly tight and with Promix. The 325 was definitely less 'boardy' than present models but again no stated flex. The bumper on the Flash 315 is even the same as the old ones-its moulded with the cut outs.
It's quite obvious how you feel about asian faces. Would it be any less disgusting to you if the faces on the racquet weren't "asian"?
It's amazing what people reveal about themselves without intention.
Cut that BS out. Why are you trying to instigate things and make assumptions about me? I meant to put faces on a racket is stupid looking. They happened to be asian, so I described them as "asian faces". Any type of picture on a racket would be stupid to me. Whether its a face or an animal or a plant or anything else. It could have been any face and I would have said it looked stupid or disgusting. Black, white, asian, hispanic, middle eastern or any other race in the world. By disgusting I meant the look of the paintjob on the racket, not the face itself. Funny how everyone knew what I meant except you. Go try to start problems somewhere else.
By the way, nice second post. Way to make a good first impression on the forum.
I like how you edited your post so many times to defend yourself and each time you keep adding more races.
Anyways, it wasn't necessary to add the word "asian" in front of faces. I'm sure if anyone said any other race, "ugliest racquet ever, it has a ________ man's face, disgusting" it sounds nothing but racist.
I edited it twice to clarify what I was saying so sensitive people like yourself wouldn't sit there and fish for something racist out of thin air. Like I said, I used the word asian because that is what the faces are, are they not? Would you prefer I described them as middle eastern faces or hispanic faces when they clearly are not either of those? Grow thicker skin and stop looking for things to cry racism about.
wow wow wow wow..... did you not even read my post? I clearly just said it was not necessary to add the word "asian" in front of faces. You could have just said "faces". Again read my post, i said it will sound racist to others no matter what race you put clearly meaning again, just say "faces" with out a race in front of it.
Seeing as how you are getting extremely defensive, my opinion on you and this subject is starting to change. Perhaps your head is too thick to comprehend others sayings?
I suppose I could have not used the word asian. I suppose it was not absolutely necessary to use that word. But I did use it to describe what they are because that is what they are. Was it necessary? No. Was I being racist? Nope. As far as my head being too thick, ya stupid things dont get through to me.
Now I dont feel like continuing this with you because this thread is about new technifibre frames. Feel free to email me if you still feel like talking about this.
I don't know any of you guys, but I thought it worth mentioning that I think there may have been a bit of overreaction here. Since the faces aren't even human (they're masks), it's not racist in any clear way to use the word "Asian" to describe them...it's simply helps understand that he's talking about the Kabuki faces on the frame...which are, in fact, Asian. The least you can do is accept his clarification and apology, which he's already given. After all, if you're talking about a rug that was ugly, no one would call you a racist for saying, "that Turkish rug is ugly", nor would they think that you hated Turkish people.
^^ Thank you for being logical, I appreciate it.
I understand your point. However, if you actually say the following statements aloud, you might see how one of them can easily arouse some sour feelings...
Turkish rugs are ugly.
Asian faces are ugly.
I hate Turkish rugs.
I hate Asian faces.
Bottom line: Sarg' expressed himself poorly and accidentally offended a couple people.
Maybe so, but as you can see, the problem in those cases is the use of "faces" instead of "masks", not the use of Asian. (To wit: "I hate Turkish rugs. I hate Asian masks." Not offensive.) They were not pictures of anyone's face. And everyone involved could see the masks in question. So leave the guy alone already.
So did baggie really switch to Tech or not ??
No. Even the commercial T-Flash 315 is a clone of the Fischer Pro No. 1/Vacuum Pro 98 mold.
It is like back when Lendl switched from the Kneissl White Star Lendl Pro to the Adidas GTX Pro.
Tecnifibre TFlash 315 VO2 Max Racquets
Noticed in the specs for this racquet in TW that it has a stiffness of 61, however, on the specification card which attaches to the racquet it says 65.
Which is right?
Yea i notice that too, and it's quite strange, if you look online you will see RA from 66 till 69, only TW has a very low 61.
Doesn't TW measure the stiffness after it's strung? If so, the 61 is correct.
Did the Fischer rackets have the wider head and narrower body beam?
From my demo hit with it. It was 65 for sure. Felt very stiff. I didnt like it at all. Actually the 3 VO2 maxs I demed. Tflash 315, Tfight 320, and Tfight 325XL. I thought they were terrible.
Ill stick to my original 325's with head 4 5/8 grip.
The new TFs disappointed me.
YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ASIAN FACES ON A RACQUET OR ANYTHING ELSE???
if he didn't switch, that has to be the coolest PJ i have ever seen. i want my Yonex painted over like that from the new VO2 line...
Yeap, his new Technifibre frame is just his old Fischer with new paint and different company.
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