Barricade 4 owners : Problems with forefoot pinching and/or shin splints?

monologuist

Hall of Fame
First of all, I have to say that the new Adidas Barricade 4's are hands down the most well-constructed tennis shoes I've ever come across; and they offer really impressive support, traction, and cushioning. However, there are two concerns that I've had since switching to them :
1. Similar to one of the reviewers for TW, I've had pinching on my left foot at the joint where my big toe meets the rest of my foot, on top. IT seems that the material there is extra-tough, for durability, but it bunches up and pinches on the foot. Just wondering if other Barricade 4 owners have this problem as well, and if so, how long did it take to go away (break-in)....I've had mine for about 3 weeks, and the problem persists.
2. I've been getting soem minor shin splints for the first time ever. IT may have nothing to do with the shoe change, but I'm wondering if anyone has had problems with this with the Barricade 4's. The cushioning and support is superb in this shoe, but I actually wonder if my legs are not use to this level of support, and while my feet feel less fatigued than ever, perhaps the stress has transferred to my legs, if that makes any sense...also they weigh much more than what I am used to...
 

North

Professional
I'm using a pair of the IVs now till I get my new Asics. The Barricade IVs seemed to take a lot longer to break in than any other tennis shoe I've ever tried. I usually wear a new pair of tennis shoes around the house for maybe a week, at most, to break in but the Barricades took at least a couple of weeks to soften up and start to break in.

If you're getting pain at the toe joint you described, you may be (unconsciously) trying to relieve the pain by running a little on your toes, which can contribute to shin spints. If the pain persists, probably a good idea to get it checked out.
 

grimmbomb21

Professional
I get the toe pinching as well. I have been trying to break them in for a month. The rest of the shoe is great, but I had to stop wearing them cuz it was killing my toe.:(
 

monologuist

Hall of Fame
NOrth..interesting theory...you may be right

the toe pinching is more noticeable when I first put them on...after playing for an hour, I don't notice it as much, although I get welts on my toe afterwards...I think the toebox of the Barricade 4 is just a little too roomy for its own good...maybe I can modify the shoe somehow..or wear a bandaid?..it's too bad, cuz I love everything about the shoe otherwise..
 

North

Professional
Yeah, I have a narrow heel but wide forefoot, so it's hard for me to find shoes that fit well. I like that roomy toebox in the IVs but the break-in was tough. I just got them temporarily till new Asics come in - they fit well and have good support on the soles.
 

duffman

Rookie
Bought the IV's, laced them up and went straight to the court. They felt good to me right out of the box, no break-in issues or pinch areas at all. By far the best tennis shoes I've worn in quite some time.
 

grimmbomb21

Professional
Anyone else have toe pinching problems that went away after the break in period? And if so, how long did it take?
 

monologuist

Hall of Fame
I dont think the pinching is going away...I've had mine for about a month already...it does seem to be less painful after playing for 45 minutes or so...but it always hurts when I first pu t them on and warm up...hopefully it's not just that my toe is going numb or I am getting used to the pain! If someone has a solution, I'm all ears! I love everything else about the shoe!
 

fishuuuuu

Hall of Fame
I'm not having any kind of problems with toe pinching or whatsoever ... and I've had mine since they were available for order.
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
I'm not having any of the problems you describe, but my arches are really high, and i've been having a tight, crampy feeling in my right arch for some time now. I think i actually had the same problem with the Barricade IIs, and it went away after a while, so hopefully this will too...

No problem with my Vapors, though.
 

grimmbomb21

Professional
I just played in mine. They were hurting at first, but eventually stopped. But that most likely had to do with playing and not paying attention to the pain anymore.
 

john cheng

New User
had to send my limited editions...

Had pinching problems also at MTP joint top of both feet. Too bad because I got the limited edition which looks really, really awesome but had to send it back. Felt like maybe material on top of shoe too thick or hard. Also been wearing 10.5's on B2's but B4's 10.5 felt like and 11. I even measured it and it was 3/8th's of an inch longer.I don't want to wait for it to soften-up as this may take a while. I also believe that a good fitting shoe will feel well right away instead of waiting a period of break-in. Again too bad :(
 

monologuist

Hall of Fame
so I "modified" my Barricade 4's to relieve the pinching that Iwas experiencing in my left forefoot.

I actually took a razor blade and cut out the black rubber material from one of the stripes that goes across the forefoot, since it appeared that it was this extra material that was bunching up and pinching down on the joint just above my big toe. I just cut out the rubber that is attached to the white leather portion of the forefoot, not the mesh part. I don't know how the shoe will hold up after doing this, but the pinching seems to have been alleviated for the most part....hopefully the shoe won't come apart as a result, but I've already played a cople of matches with the shoe like this and it doesn't seem to be a problem; no ripping or unraveling where I cut the rubber out. To be honest, the rubber seems superfluous in terms of added protection...that part of the forefoot is already well protected by the leather, an isn't an area that normally gets a lot or wear and tear...the black rubber is just excessive and makes it so that there is too much material too bunch up , esepcially b/c that is where the forefoot flexes.

If the shoe comes apart where I performed the surgery, I will let you guys know....but since the forefoot pinching seems to be a fairly common problem (even a reviewer for TW experienced this), this might be a solution for some of you.
 

monologuist

Hall of Fame
BreakPoint said:
I wonder if "modifying" your BIV's will void your warranty?
well..the warranty is for the soles, so hopefuly not....either way I don't care....these things are built to last, and I can't see myself being disappointed with the sole durability...they are probably the toughest soles I've ever seen on a tennis shoe...plus, if I didn't modify them, I would have just not used them b/c of the pain in my foot.
 

Rumjungle

Semi-Pro
The IV's sound like they would be a nightmare for me. I'm like North, with a wide forefoot. Too bad, as I was just about to order them. Another pair of III's it is.
 

monologuist

Hall of Fame
THe 4's have plenty of forefoot room...I also have very wide forefoot....no problem...in fact, the pinching problem I described was b/c there was too much forefoot room. I 've tried Barricade 3's and I don't find them to be any wider in the forefoot.
 

North

Professional
Rumjungle said:
The IV's sound like they would be a nightmare for me. I'm like North, with a wide forefoot. Too bad, as I was just about to order them. Another pair of III's it is.
I got some IVs, waiting for new Asics to come in. The IVs are not a nightmare, but took a long time to break in and I have to keep these wooden shoe stretchers in them (when they are in the closet) to keep them from getting tight again at the point where my forefoot flares out. However, with the break-in and continued stretching, they are OK to play in. I couldn't wear the IIIs at all, no matter what, because it was instant mega-discomfort just trying the IIIs on as they are way narrower than the IVs.
 

North

Professional
Rumjungle said:
So the IV's are WIDER? I was under the impression that they were narrower than the III's.
To me (I guess everyone's foot is different) the IIIs felt too narrow all the way through, even at my narrow heel, with my toes really getting pinched - it felt like the shoes were the same width the whole length of the shoe. (Sounds weird, I know, but that's the only way I can explain it.) With the IVs, at least I can break them in and stretch them to accomodate my forefoot and heel. Guess I just have funny-shaped feet - lol.
 

timmyboy

Professional
I don't find much problems with this shoe. just some running made them break in. A little heavy, but the weight gives you some explosive power.
 

Fatmike

Semi-Pro
had it too on BIII, it went away ofter long break in.

some guy I know don't use the last lace hole (or whatever you call it)
 
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