Barricade coming back 2020?

cartel

Rookie
saw a post from a competitor really they star the name out? mid west that the barricade is coming back and they have "pre orders" doesnt say what version--

after my barricade boosts all wore out i have been on the shoe hunt-- and the asics wide are "ok"but still dont hold my feet as well as the boosts did-- i have a set of fresh foam lav in wide on right now and theyre still not as good as the old boosts.. the Djoko shoes were way too narrow as well as about 4 others i bought and had to return--

so are they coming back and if so what version equivalent? the barricade 8s were crap-- but the boosts 2018 were great--
 
Looks like they are bringing back the latest NON-BOOST version. They are so clunky and feel like narrow cement blocks to me.
 

Gooner

New User
The listing on competitor website did not mention (or at least I did not see) anything about an outsole warranty, which is a synonymous of the Barricades. Hopefully these re-issues still include that warranty.
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
2018 version worked for me, had some nice memories with it. However I hope a new version, not the 2018 is released for 2021 instead of a re-issue. The colorway is nice though.
 

HBK4life

Semi-Pro
Good lord the price. I am going to wear my current shoes until they are bald. Considering these shoes are made by Pretty slave labor charging that much is something else.
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
Good lord the price. I am going to wear my current shoes until they are bald. Considering these shoes are made by Pretty slave labor charging that much is something else.
It’s why I switched to asics, they are not made in China. Granted it’s made in Vietnam but I haven’t heard of bad conditions there, I should check.
 

socallefty

Professional
Exciting news! Haven’t found a good replacement after being a Barricade user for a decade. Can’t wait!
 
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SinneGOAT

Professional
Let me just make sure I understand you, it's a higher price for a 2 year old shoe and they are taking away the warranty?

J
I hope this isn’t the “return id the barricade” we were hoping for. I’m not gonna buy it. Gel resolution 8 is years better in everything!
 

cartel

Rookie
ah how depressing-- i guess i will have to see if i can live with the freshfoam Lav in wide-- still undecided between those and the asics wide-- literally nothing else fits--
i havent tried any Nike yet- i guess thats next
 

mpournaras

Hall of Fame
The lack of a warranty was a HUGE oversight considering the crowd that has any passionate connection to the Barricade name. The price (considering that) is a little insulting.

I was not in the market for this but I know those who were will not be happy. Maybe on Happy Hour sale next year
 

socallefty

Professional
The irony is that they have made the sole so good that the shoe’s support deteriorates long before you can break down the sole even on hard courts. I used to get the warranty replacement on every Barricade for a decade and then in the last two years, I did not send back a single shoe for warranty replacement because they became too soft to play with long before the sole got damaged. So, I can’t imagine too many customers are using the warranty replacement anymore to incur heavy costs for Adidas.

They could have just kept the sole warranty option instead of dealing with the bad PR of getting rid of it on their flagship heavyweight shoe.
 
This is hilarious really.

Barricade fans: *lobbying for 2 years to bring back Barricades*
Adidas: “enough already, here you go”
Barricade fans: “NOOOOO!!!1!!!! Not the 2018 version!”

To be clear, I also prefer the ‘15 or ‘16 version. I’m just looking forward to people losing it over this:-D
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
This is hilarious really.

Barricade fans: *lobbying for 2 years to bring back Barricades*
Adidas: “enough already, here you go”
Barricade fans: “NOOOOO!!!1!!!! Not the 2018 version!”

To be clear, I also prefer the ‘15 or ‘16 version. I’m just looking forward to people losing it over this:-D
This x 1 million

I have been reading the complaints about the Barricades being discontinued for the past year and a bit. People were swearing that they will buy them "if they return", and were complaining left, right and center that such an excellent shoe is being removed from the market.

As for the complaints, I see them as a cheap way out for most of those that demanded that they are back, and now need to backtrack on their words: as someone mentioned, the outsole is so sturdy that very few would actually wear it out before the warranty period is up. With people buying multiples of pairs that is not even a serious consideration, as it is clear that they weren't counting on it in the first place.

About the price: they are pricing them in the same ballpark as the top tier shoes of their competitors, and why shouldn't they?

Same applied to the "wide" shoes, before Adidas came out with SCB and Ü3: people were complaining almost all the time about the lack of "wide" shoes. The moment these two models were released the rants about lack of narrow offerings started.

It is the same thing over and over again.

Looking forward to what will be the next complaint, as now Adidas has covered the market in both narrow and wide shoes with fast and heavily built options plus more.

:cool:
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
This x 1 million

I have been reading the complaints about the Barricades being discontinued for the past year and a bit. People were swearing that they will buy them "if they return", and were complaining left, right and center that such an excellent shoe is being removed from the market.

As for the complaints, I see them as a cheap way out for most of those that demanded that they are back, and now need to backtrack on their words: as someone mentioned, the outsole is so sturdy that very few would actually wear it out before the warranty period is up. With people buying multiples of pairs that is not even a serious consideration, as it is clear that they weren't counting on it in the first place.

About the price: they are pricing them in the same ballpark as the top tier shoes of their competitors, and why shouldn't they?

Same applied to the "wide" shoes, before Adidas came out with SCB and Ü3: people were complaining almost all the time about the lack of "wide" shoes. The moment these two models were released the rants about lack of narrow offerings started.

It is the same thing over and over again.

Looking forward to what will be the next complaint, as now Adidas has covered the market in both narrow and wide shoes with fast and heavily built options plus more.

:cool:
What Adidas shoes are narrow and current?

J
 

corvax

New User
Yea, U2 and B15-17 fit me well, U3 I wear but slide around in and SCB is a no.

B17 is the best Adidas shoe for me, U2 fits my foot very well but I don't love the booty.

J
The B17 is such a nice looking shoe and it fits my foot really well, but I think I've been spoiled by the amount of cushioning of recent shoes. I have a pair of the non-boost B17s (the minimalist no-dye ones, super clean looking) and whenever I go back to them I feel random aches and pains in my knees and ankles... I've tried a myriad of other shoes since from Asics, Adidas, and Diadora and never get any pains with any of them.

Anyway I'm guessing with this news, the SCB is on its way out then? They've barely released any new colours for it compared to other current models, and there is veryyyyy limited stock of the clay court version in all the main EU online retailers. Unless they're saving something up for RG?
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
The B17 is such a nice looking shoe and it fits my foot really well, but I think I've been spoiled by the amount of cushioning of recent shoes. I have a pair of the non-boost B17s (the minimalist no-dye ones, super clean looking) and whenever I go back to them I feel random aches and pains in my knees and ankles... I've tried a myriad of other shoes since from Asics, Adidas, and Diadora and never get any pains with any of them.

Anyway I'm guessing with this news, the SCB is on its way out then? They've barely released any new colours for it compared to other current models, and there is veryyyyy limited stock of the clay court version in all the main EU online retailers. Unless they're saving something up for RG?
IMO, you are guessing wrong.

Those two shoes are very different.

Some predicted that the Stycons will be discontinued "soon" with absolutely the same argument. Adidas just released new colour ways of those too.

:cool:
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
The B17 is such a nice looking shoe and it fits my foot really well, but I think I've been spoiled by the amount of cushioning of recent shoes. I have a pair of the non-boost B17s (the minimalist no-dye ones, super clean looking) and whenever I go back to them I feel random aches and pains in my knees and ankles... I've tried a myriad of other shoes since from Asics, Adidas, and Diadora and never get any pains with any of them.

Anyway I'm guessing with this news, the SCB is on its way out then? They've barely released any new colours for it compared to other current models, and there is veryyyyy limited stock of the clay court version in all the main EU online retailers. Unless they're saving something up for RG?
Adidas distribution has been a mess this year, hopefully 2021 is better.

J
 

corvax

New User
IMO, you are guessing wrong.

Those two shoes are very different.

Some predicted that the Stycons will be discontinued "soon" with absolutely the same argument. Adidas just released new colour ways of those too.

:cool:
They are quite different in fit yes, but at the end of the day they're both stability shoes and they literally got rid of the barricade line and replaced it with the SCB at the start of 2019. If they keep the Stycon, SCB and have the Barricade as well next year, that'll be three high end, stability oriented shoe models that they have out all at the same time, I just don't see that happening.

Stycons were released beginning of this year, SCB beginning of last year so it's not really a fair comparison I think.

In any case, 2 years is quite a reasonable lifespan for a shoe model isn't it?
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
They are quite different in fit yes, but at the end of the day they're both stability shoes and they literally got rid of the barricade line and replaced it with the SCB at the start of 2019. If they keep the Stycon, SCB and have the Barricade as well next year, that'll be three high end, stability oriented shoe models that they have out all at the same time, I just don't see that happening.

Stycons were released beginning of this year, SCB beginning of last year so it's not really a fair comparison I think.

In any case, 2 years is quite a reasonable lifespan for a shoe model isn't it?
Everything is possible, of course, but I don't see why a company can't have the same type of shoe for different type of foot. It is not like that is a bad thing or anything. Both shoes won't compete with each other, but compliment the other.

IMO, the Stycon is more problematic, as it is a different shoe, but since the fit is similar to SCB some might prefer one over the other. It is lower to the ground, though, so I think that Adidas has the right idea with it. Maybe make it a tad lighter (new materials/ slightly lower collar). Different aesthetic too. Currently Adidas is not doing enough with it on that front, I think, so we will see if they will embrace a different strategy.

Yes, 2 years is a reasonable lifespan for an iteration of a model. For a model line it is too short, especially considering Adidas's history of producing long lineages of the same model.

I guess we will see, but I like how they try to encompass all possible big groups of foot types. I think the only thing missing is offering a model with some extra widths.

:cool:
 
Yea, U2 and B15-17 fit me well, U3 I wear but slide around in and SCB is a no.

B17 is the best Adidas shoe for me, U2 fits my foot very well but I don't love the booty.

J
B17 was nice, but I had issues with the upper. I got some wear around the areas flexing and because it was knit materials it just unraveled. Made a temporary fix with a hot glue gun, but not ideal.

I’m not so sure how this re-issue is a step towards a new model though. It reanimates the Barricade name, but doesn’t do anything towards a new edition. Let’s see what they come up with, I’m all in for future editions.
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
I just hope this isn’t what the barricade will be for 2021, I want some real innovation with an outsole warranty, not a re-issue of a decent but not amazing shoe.
 
Always loved the barricade's :cool:
The soulcourt is ok, but prefered the barricade.
I would buy the 2018. I dont care about the "2018 colours".
But not available in europe....
I think i will try the asics. Other suggestions?
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
Always loved the barricade's :cool:
The soulcourt is ok, but prefered the barricade.
I would buy the 2018. I dont care about the "2018 colours".
But not available in europe....
I think i will try the asics. Other suggestions?
If you don’t mind the price then maybe the Nike cage 4. Asics has some amazing stability shoes like the Gel Resolution 8 and the Court FF 2. My personal preference is the Gel Res, but they are very similar shoes.
 
Always loved the barricade's :cool:
The soulcourt is ok, but prefered the barricade.
I would buy the 2018. I dont care about the "2018 colours".
But not available in europe....
I think i will try the asics. Other suggestions?
I used Barricade 2015 to 2017. Now I switched to Ubersonic 3 and really like those. The upper seemed tight at first, but it relaxes after a few days.

durability of the sole seems equal to me, using them mainly on clay
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
If you don’t mind the price then maybe the Nike cage 4. Asics has some amazing stability shoes like the Gel Resolution 8 and the Court FF 2. My personal preference is the Gel Res, but they are very similar shoes.
I slide around in the ff but it might be the asics socks partly.

J
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
I slide around in the ff but it might be the asics socks partly.

J
I am gonna try the FF 2 next week, I normally wear gel res. I hear the traction is pretty slick, which makes me excited and scared because I don’t want to slip. Gonna be interested in performance.
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
My feet slide inside the shoe, traction is great.

J
I bought an 11 just to be sure, I can always double sock. Turns out I will be wearing double sock, I am excited to wear it. I found it along with a pair of the gel resolution 7 USO 2019, both for a steal. Love the gel resolution 8 but the 7 is comparable.
 

SinneGOAT

Professional
The more I think about it the more I realize how scummy adidas’ shoe business is. What makes you so insane that you raise the price on a shoe while getting rid of the warranty? No updates, no new changes. In fact they made it worse! I’m 99% sure I’m never buying adidas unless it’s super discounted.
 
The more I think about it the more I realize how scummy adidas’ shoe business is. What makes you so insane that you raise the price on a shoe while getting rid of the warranty?
Because everything gets more expensive over time?

don’t get me wrong, this re-issue isn’t doing much for me either, but I see the business logic in it.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
It’s literally the same shoe as 2 years ago. Not a single change. Only changes for the worst most would agree upon.
I think that you didn't read or didn't understand what he wrote.

In any event, there is no argument for not having "a single change" being a reason for lower prices. If Nike was to return to the market the Vapor 9/9.5 Tour with the price of a Vapor X, those that like the former wouldn't bat an eyelid that it hasn't got a "single change" and will happily pay for it. I guarantee you that.

:cool:
 
It’s literally the same shoe as 2 years ago. Not a single change. Only changes for the worst most would agree upon.
I agree mate. I was messing with you. And you are absolutely right about the pricing. Imagine you were to find a pair of 2018 Barricades in some outlet corner, you’d be paying $70 for the same thing. That’s just weird.

TBH I do understand that brands want to get rid of the 6 month warranty. If I see on this board that people claim warranty 3 times, that is proof of a crap product and not a sustainable business model (paid for by us at the end of the day). They should provide use with durable product with the guarantee only as a reassurance.
 

SeeItHitIt

Professional
The accountants must be running the place at Adidas…scr*w your loyal customers.
That’s my major takeaway. Barricades fit my foot (High arch, narrow) and with too many rolled ankles in my past, provide great lateral support. But I’m not payin’no $149.99 for a two year old shoe (design). Come on Adidas, that is if you expect people rotating a half dozen pair of 2-3 year old shoes to jump back on the merry go round when your ‘new’ shoe is finally out.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
I agree mate. I was messing with you. And you are absolutely right about the pricing. Imagine you were to find a pair of 2018 Barricades in some outlet corner, you’d be paying $70 for the same thing. That’s just weird.

TBH I do understand that brands want to get rid of the 6 month warranty. If I see on this board that people claim warranty 3 times, that is proof of a crap product and not a sustainable business model (paid for by us at the end of the day). They should provide use with durable product with the guarantee only as a reassurance.
Why is it "weird", but it is not "weird" when the same price differential exists every time between a new and an old colour way merely separated by several months upon release? New and old colour way is also the same shoe, so how come that is not seen as a bad practice?

What you say about something being a "crap product" is also weird. It is not like the shoes of old (without such guarantee) were better, and the shoe with and without 6 month warranty is the same product. The warranty doesn't make it suddenly a better product, it just creates the opportunity for that product to be exchanged for a new one without an additional cost. However, when you say "we" you mean the tennis geeks. Normal people never ever make use of it, since they don't destroy shoes at such rates, so effectively everyone else is paying for that selected group of people to get a second pair for free. You might view this as a convenient situation, but the people that pay for that convenience probably don't think so. BTW, Adidas has by far the most durable outsole, so they should be the least criticised for the lack of such warranty. There is also a practise of abusing the warranty in various ways, including buying shoes on sale and then requiring a full replacement with the warranty that comes with them. In that case the price of the warranty was not paid, but the warranty was still expected. Warranty is good, of course, but that is not an absolute statement.

:cool:
 
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