heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
I guess everyone has a friend named Fat Dave or should.
Battle by the Border: Matt Lin vs. San Diego
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Fat Dave was only 5'9" and 275 lbs.
Good athlete, he raced Open Novice in motocross and didn't always come on last.
He was the fastest windsurfer in the '87 Ponds speed trials event, the Ponds inland in LA, gateway to the Palm Desert.
He could actually just kick a street cleaning sign, around 6'6" high and located on the curb, and land on his feet...awkward, but not falling down. That was impressive.
His surfboard stood as a sign at San Francisco Surf Shop for 20 years, a bite taken out by a shark at Pedro Point while I sat 5 feet away.
Good athlete, he raced Open Novice in motocross and didn't always come on last.
He was the fastest windsurfer in the '87 Ponds speed trials event, the Ponds inland in LA, gateway to the Palm Desert.
He could actually just kick a street cleaning sign, around 6'6" high and located on the curb, and land on his feet...awkward, but not falling down. That was impressive.
His surfboard stood as a sign at San Francisco Surf Shop for 20 years, a bite taken out by a shark at Pedro Point while I sat 5 feet away.
5 feet away from the shop sign?
5' from the left rail of Fat Dave's surfboard, him sitting aboard. Pepito, Jeff Clark (who was a wave hogging nuisance), and Mike H were also in the circle, facing us.
It's really tough to kick a street cleaning sign. I can't do it. It's located about 9" from the street, on the sidewalk or curb. You have to run along the curb, jump and kick, and land without striding the curb, or one foot slips down to the street, maybe 6", and the other stays up on the sidewalk, as you body just brush's the pole that holds the sign up.
It's really tough to kick a street cleaning sign. I can't do it. It's located about 9" from the street, on the sidewalk or curb. You have to run along the curb, jump and kick, and land without striding the curb, or one foot slips down to the street, maybe 6", and the other stays up on the sidewalk, as you body just brush's the pole that holds the sign up.
Murrayjuannow
Banned
Green tea, ginger, papaya. Actually a bit of beer a day is good too.
SoBad
G.O.A.T.
Big deal. When I was in grade school, half the boys in my class would kick dozens of street cleaning signs on the way to school every day.
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
So will Matt eventually go on a National Tour to kick other TTW arse? 
BHBH
BHBHMurrayjuannow
Banned
Beware of Dhaweed Ferrer.So will Matt eventually go on a National Tour to kick other TTW arse?
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
hehehehe this is the thread that will never die
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
Are you implying that Ferrer smokes the big weed to remain chill?
Murrayjuannow
Banned
I'm not sure I understand this reference.
Suresh has reincarnated into Dhaweed Ferrer:
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Got it! [emoji106] BHBH
I was about to ask about the PermaWrist.
One question: does it allow open-face shots (like forehand slice) or is it only for flat and TS shots? Reason is there is a new thread here where a coach is asking how to prevent kids from hitting with an open face. Wonder if Perma Wrist is agnostic to this or not.
One question: does it allow open-face shots (like forehand slice) or is it only for flat and TS shots? Reason is there is a new thread here where a coach is asking how to prevent kids from hitting with an open face. Wonder if Perma Wrist is agnostic to this or not.
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Why would this coach want to prevent development of the slice!?
Cheetah
Hall of Fame
I used the PermaWrist today. It's nice. I think it would definitely help players with their swing paths and arm / wrist angles and such. I hit with it for 90+ minutes.
It provides good feedback on all your shots. On some shots I could tell that the way i normally hit was in line with the way the device had my wrist set as well as other shots where I normally do some wrist manipulation .. the device lets you know if you were flexing or extending your wrist on that shot or were in a neutral position etc... Some shots that I was perfectly fine with in the past were given a 'new look' by using the permawrist so I will incorporate some new things based on feedback from the device. I like that you can set it between anywhere from basically forcing you to hit with a laid back wrist all the way to having it 'encouraging' you to hit with a laid back wrist. It works good on all shots, fh/bh/volleys/slice etc.
Here's a demo vid of it in action:
The permawrist is made of quality material. It's well put together and is not flimsy or cheap feeling. It feels like it would last basically forever. I'd say there is a slight learning curve to it. It's easy to put on and use but you have find the right 'settings' that are best for you as it's very adjustable. You can adjust how tight it is on your forearm and you can adjust the degree of laid back wrist you want and you can adjust how must 'assist' you want in achieving the laid back wrist by altering the tension. That takes a little while to dial in to get it to where you want it. Then you have to learn how to adjust it quickly while playing. You'll understand if you try it.
Also, for me, I think I need to put a wrist band on my forearm above the permawrist because it was humid today and I was sweating a lot and that would cause the device to slip off every 10 mins so I need something to keep my arm drier when using it. But if you are dry and you have it set up correctly for your body and swing style then it will stay secure for a long time.
I give it a thumbs up and would recommend it to anyone at any level.
I like it and I'm going to use it for the next few weeks at least.
It provides good feedback on all your shots. On some shots I could tell that the way i normally hit was in line with the way the device had my wrist set as well as other shots where I normally do some wrist manipulation .. the device lets you know if you were flexing or extending your wrist on that shot or were in a neutral position etc... Some shots that I was perfectly fine with in the past were given a 'new look' by using the permawrist so I will incorporate some new things based on feedback from the device. I like that you can set it between anywhere from basically forcing you to hit with a laid back wrist all the way to having it 'encouraging' you to hit with a laid back wrist. It works good on all shots, fh/bh/volleys/slice etc.
Here's a demo vid of it in action:
The permawrist is made of quality material. It's well put together and is not flimsy or cheap feeling. It feels like it would last basically forever. I'd say there is a slight learning curve to it. It's easy to put on and use but you have find the right 'settings' that are best for you as it's very adjustable. You can adjust how tight it is on your forearm and you can adjust the degree of laid back wrist you want and you can adjust how must 'assist' you want in achieving the laid back wrist by altering the tension. That takes a little while to dial in to get it to where you want it. Then you have to learn how to adjust it quickly while playing. You'll understand if you try it.
Also, for me, I think I need to put a wrist band on my forearm above the permawrist because it was humid today and I was sweating a lot and that would cause the device to slip off every 10 mins so I need something to keep my arm drier when using it. But if you are dry and you have it set up correctly for your body and swing style then it will stay secure for a long time.
I give it a thumbs up and would recommend it to anyone at any level.
I like it and I'm going to use it for the next few weeks at least.
He was refering to the common problem of beginner kids hitting up on the ball with an open face. It is the first reaction of kids when handed a racket
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Gotcha! [emoji106] Hope the recovery is coming along nicely. Best, BHBH
Tight Lines
Professional
Thanks Cheetah for the nice writeup.
Yes, you can hit overheads and serves, but you will have to adjust the cord length to give you may be 30 degrees between the racket and the forearm.
I don't believe it is allowed in tournaments as the cord would be considered an attachment. You won't want to do it anyway. It's just a practice tool.
Harry
Yes, you can hit overheads and serves, but you will have to adjust the cord length to give you may be 30 degrees between the racket and the forearm.
I don't believe it is allowed in tournaments as the cord would be considered an attachment. You won't want to do it anyway. It's just a practice tool.
Harry
Yeah almost done. Probably will start going back to work Monday, the 7 day mark. Checkup is on Tuesday. But I have to take it slow for 4 to 5 weeks in all, and then lifelong precaution against lifting or too much bending.
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
That's great!
Murrayjuannow
Banned
Even Goats use them
http://m.theage.com.au/sport/australian-open/behind-enemy-lines-20120119-1q8ga.html#ixzz1jvS5WpqM
The result:
http://m.foxsports.com.au/tennis/m...-melbourne-park/story-e6frf4nc-1226249763142
Use wrist assist, beat the Dog!
http://m.theage.com.au/sport/australian-open/behind-enemy-lines-20120119-1q8ga.html#ixzz1jvS5WpqM
The result:
http://m.foxsports.com.au/tennis/m...-melbourne-park/story-e6frf4nc-1226249763142
Use wrist assist, beat the Dog!
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Cheetah
Hall of Fame
yes. that is precisely what it addresses.
mightyrick
Legend
Wrist is too loose? That actually might be an incorrect characterization where your coach isn't using completely accurate words to describe what he's seeing. Wrist being "too loose" could mean one of two things: 1) Your grip is way too loose, or 2) Your forehand is too wristy.
I haven't seen your stroke at all, but I'd be willing to bet that #2 is your problem because #1 is very rare. I've seen problem #2 more than a few times on the court. Especially with cricket and badminton players. I've even see some baseball outfielders do this because they think it gives them more distance. There's a guy who just graduated high-school who I hit with (he used to be on the local HS tennis team). Same hitch. He does it to try to get extreme stretch and racquet head speed. He even has a similar hitch in his serve motion where he overly cocks his arm/wrist right before the racquet drop.
The hitch goes like this. Right before the swing forward, you prepend this weird hitch in your swing in order to get the maximum amount of wrist stretch. This "hitch" is a quick motion, but it gives the appearance of overly-extreme wrist looseness. It happens at the pat-the-dog position. Ordinarily, your would swing forward from pat-the-dog. But with this wristy hitch, before you swing forward, you actually keep the racquet head down, but move it a little bit by cocking your arm (usually by exaggerating the separation of the elbow from the body).
My advice would be to eliminate that wristy hitch. It might feel cool when you nail it and the ball might have a ton of spin, but it is going to cause you lots of problems when you are hitting on the run or when you have a quick incoming ball and need to react quickly. Swing hitches like this can screw up your timing. When you get to pat-the-dog, just swing forward normally. No need to add anything else on. You'll have plenty of spin and pace.
(BTW -- I could be completely wrong in this post. I'm only pointing this out because I've seen like 5 or 6 players recently who have this same kind of hitch and everybody describes their swing the same way. Too loose of a wrist.)
What does a pro feel (not talking about Nick or Stan)?
LakeSnake
Professional
Thanks, mightyrick, I'll have to analyze my swing a bit to see if that's the case. I do keep a very loose grip on the racquet, which has made learning to volley a big learning curve. The time right before swinging forward is a bit of a mystery to me and has been a struggle at times. I try to make sure the strings are facing the ground and the head is pretty low.
JoelDali
Talk Tennis Guru
The pros feel solid plow through that connects from the main anous nerve to the large intestine. Amateurs feel a vibrating scattered inconsistent sensation. The WristAssist attempted to really show what the pros feel but it fell way short. I am still looking for the one device that can help me feel what the pros feel when they connect.
russell
Semi-Pro
The PermAssist may be the answer. A lot of amateurs are reporting that the rampant tingling scattering sensation has been transformed into a solid connect on every hit. Rumor has it that BradG is working on developing an Urban Sherpa sheepskin add-on for maximal plop-through.
russell
Semi-Pro
Being an inductee into the Marblehead Boosters Hall of Fame, I sure hope so. Coupled with the TossAssist, you can just let your Soul Glo. The possibilities are endless here.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
Does the device give feedback if you're taking too big if a swing on the volley?