Battle in The ATL - MEP vs Travler Match Thread

Who ya got?

  • MEP in 2. Youth and fitness prevail. Travler goes down in heap of racquet switching frustration.

  • MEP in 3. Epic 3-hour pusher war ends with Travler choking the overhead on match point.

  • Travler in 3. Forehand slice dropper wears down MEP’s famous wheels.

  • Travler in 2. Travler turns back the clock and S&V’s his way to victory.

  • Everybody wins!


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ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
In fact, MEP beat a college tennis player and took a set off a D1 girl as well. So his threshold of absorbing pace and spin is deceptively high.

Tennis is what you do to get the ball over the net and within the three lines - baseline and singles alley left and right. That's it. It doesn't matter how you get there but if you can keep it in way more than your opponent, you will win.
Very impressive and entertaining how far MEP took his game. The difference in rec levels is often marginal. My experience playing up some in 5.0 was it was mainly hitting/offense skills that was the difference. I said pace/spin ... and that was true with some, but just as often they just did what you did better. For example ... I held serve at a high percentage in 4.5. A 5.0 opponent’s ros and passing shots might look exactly the same ... no big increase in pace or spin, but a higher skill level that made the difference. The same thing happened when our best 4.5 baseliner played a good 5.0 baseliner. The 5.0 baseliner’s better hitting skills (whether targeting, pace, spin, UE, etc) allowed them to dictate/control most points.

That was my experience anyway ... ran into level where hitting skills trumped athletic/movement skills.
 

norcal

Hall of Fame
socallefty said:
I think I like trav’s description of his matches in South America more than watching one of his videos. The hyperbole and the detailed description of the racquet customization along with the many excuses are at least entertaining.
If you can find an example of hyperbole, I’ll be interested to know. Everything I post is 100% strange but true.
C'mon man, I love your stories but you described one of your hitting partners in SA as being a 'former ATP touring pro who has a forehand better than the next gen' (or something like that) then proceeded to describe you being somewhat competitive with him.

That is the definition of hyperbole!
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
C'mon man, I love your stories but you described one of your hitting partners in SA as being a 'former ATP touring pro who has a forehand better than the next gen' (or something like that) then proceeded to describe you being somewhat competitive with him.

That is the definition of hyperbole!
I stand by my story as 100% true.

A couple of weeks ago, my 3x per week hitting partner was bemoaning to me how his forehand was Top100, but his backhand was only Top1000.

I corrected him. I told him, your fh is Top50, but your bh is only Top2000.
 
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ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
I'm following this hyperbole discussion closely to see if I need to moderate my posts. I have never played tennis ... obviously ... is that a problem?
 

norcal

Hall of Fame
I'm following this hyperbole discussion closely to see if I need to moderate my posts. I have never played tennis ... obviously ... is that a problem?
Well hyperbole is in the eye of the beholder (poster so to speak) so if you 100% believe you have never played tennis you may not be engaging in hyperbole but you may need...
to be 5150'd o_O
 

AnyPUG

Professional
C'mon man, I love your stories but you described one of your hitting partners in SA as being a 'former ATP touring pro who has a forehand better than the next gen' (or something like that) then proceeded to describe you being somewhat competitive with him.

That is the definition of hyperbole!
TBH, I completely get your skepticism of traveler's ability to hang with someone of that caliber based on some of his videos - it just does not make sense at all. But, I have seen it in my own eyes - he was absorbing and redirecting all the FH pace thrown at him by a high level FH (a recent D3 player with conventional/coached shots who can be mistaken for a touring pro by the energy level and all the grunting sound) - and IIRC, traveler was leading the set at one point.
I have watched many many pro matches court side over the years and I'm in complete sympathy with folks who fail to understand travler's ability - but it's what it is.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Well hyperbole is in the eye of the beholder (poster so to speak) so if you 100% believe you have never played tennis you may not be engaging in hyperbole but you may need...
to be 5150'd o_O
Good point (not the being offed part :eek: ) ... hyperbole is stretching the truth not flat out making all of it up. Like I said ... I struggle with fancy words.
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
TBH, I completely get your skepticism of traveler's ability to hang with someone of that caliber based on some of his videos - it just does not make sense at all. But, I have seen it in my own eyes - he was absorbing and redirecting all the FH pace thrown at him by a high level FH (a recent D3 player with conventional/coached shots who can be mistaken for a touring pro by the energy level and all the grunting sound) - and IIRC, traveler was leading the set at one point.
I have watched many many pro matches court side over the years and I'm in complete sympathy with folks who fail to understand travler's ability - but it's what it is.
I was serving for the set up 5-3 before my legs turned to rubber. I hate to use it as an excuse, but playing a 2h match against MEP in the mid-afternoon sun right before starting the match was not ideal prep.
 

AnyPUG

Professional
I was serving for the set up 5-3 before my legs turned to rubber. I hate to use it as an excuse, but playing a 2h match against MEP in the mid-afternoon sun right before starting the match was not ideal prep.
OMG - I'm suspecting a body double or an identical twin who hides behind the bushes between games... I guess you couldn't distract your opponent to do the swap while serving at 5-3.
 

norcal

Hall of Fame
TBH, I completely get your skepticism of traveler's ability to hang with someone of that caliber based on some of his videos - it just does not make sense at all. But, I have seen it in my own eyes - he was absorbing and redirecting all the FH pace thrown at him by a high level FH (a recent D3 player with conventional/coached shots who can be mistaken for a touring pro by the energy level and all the grunting sound) - and IIRC, traveler was leading the set at one point.
I have watched many many pro matches court side over the years and I'm in complete sympathy with folks who fail to understand travler's ability - but it's what it is.
I wasn't at all trying to diminish Trav's playing ability, I was just saying his stories seem exaggerated (for entertainment effect) - to say his hitting partner's fh is better than 'next gen' (zverev, thiem, tsitsi)...is just not believable (to me anyways).
As Dan Quayle would say, "Potato/Potatoe".
 

AnyPUG

Professional
I wasn't at all trying to diminish Trav's playing ability, I was just saying his stories seem exaggerated (for entertainment effect) - to say his hitting partner's fh is better than 'next gen' (zverev, thiem, tsitsi)...is just not believable (to me anyways).
As Dan Quayle would say, "Potato/Potatoe".
Got it, I see what you are saying- since he has not played against 'next gen', he wouldn't really know if his partner's FH is better than them???
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
OMG - I'm suspecting a body double or an identical twin who hides behind the bushes between games... I guess you couldn't distract your opponent to do the swap while serving at 5-3.
Forgot that I could have used the tag team option that day.
I wasn't at all trying to diminish Trav's playing ability, I was just saying his stories seem exaggerated (for entertainment effect) - to say his hitting partner's fh is better than 'next gen' (zverev, thiem, tsitsi)...is just not believable (to me anyways).
As Dan Quayle would say, "Potato/Potatoe".
There are a number of reasons why my hitting partner is not playing on the ATP tour. Forehand is not one of them. Let’s put it this way. If Zverev had his forehand, Zverev would have a slam trophy by now. Not an exaggeration. I say this because I do not believe Zverev has a Top100 forehand.
 
Forgot that I could have used the tag team option that day.

There are a number of reasons why my hitting partner is not playing on the ATP tour. Forehand is not one of them. Let’s put it this way. If Zverev had his forehand, Zverev would have a slam trophy by now. Not an exaggeration. I say this because I do not believe Zverev has a Top100 forehand.
If Zverev was playing you, every forehand would be a winner. That's just fact.
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
If someone is only 5’5” tall, has 4.5 bh, and a 4.0 mental game, how good would his fh have to be to reach Top1000 in the world level?
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
If someone is only 5’5” tall, has 4.5 bh, and a 4.0 mental game, how good would his fh have to be to reach Top1000 in the world level?
First you said his BH was top 2000 level and now it's 4.5 level? Is GSG an ATP level player?

I thought you were just camera shy because your results in videoed matches are mid/low 4.5 level but you held your own against ATP players off camera, but now it appears that 4.5 is closer to futures level than I had previously thought.

J
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
First you said his BH was top 2000 level and now it's 4.5 level? Is GSG an ATP level player?

I thought you were just camera shy because your results in videoed matches are mid/low 4.5 level but you held your own against ATP players off camera, but now it appears that 4.5 is closer to futures level than I had previously thought.

J
Is it that hard to believe that someone can have a different level on different days?
 
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