BB London Tour 93in2 Club

maxpotapov said:
OK, I'll do a search



Sounds very good, now, do you think I can put lead tape under the CAP grommet at 12 o'clock?
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That would be easy. If you look at the pre-sale photo, they obviously strung the stick without inserting the top of the grommet all the way in, so you could fit a train under it...LOL.
 
TennisMaverick said:
BB DC sticks are very soft. Add a little weight to one area, and you immediately change the stick's qualities--ask any London user. After adding a leather grip and the 5 grams of athletic tape to the capped grommet, the flex in the center and the lightness in the center was overly noticeable.

I don't use over grips, ever, but I believe that they weigh-in at 1-2 grams.

Dumper? I assume that you mean dampener? BB/Volkl dampeners weigh 3.3 grams.
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Thank you.

Yes, dumpener - smartfone small keyboard issue...

So if I remember you have added 3g@6 and now 5g under capped grommet on 3 and 9, yes Mav?
 
ptr said:
Thank you.

Yes, dumpener - smartfone small keyboard issue...

So if I remember you have added 3g@6 and now 5g under capped grommet on 3 and 9, yes Mav?
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These mods were done to mimic a Prestige Classic, with the traditional 3/9 mod:

1/2 white athletic tape to cover capped grommet- 5 grams
3 grams in throat/bridge area
2 grams@3/9 each(inside the frame on either side of the grommets)
Leather Grip

This is not for my personal, but for players to demo who play 6.0-7.0. My mods are still a work in progress with this; I cannot do what I did with my T10 Mids because the DC and lack of Titanium changes everything, plus the lay-up is different.
 
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vsbabolat said:
It has a strung flex of 55RA.:) I am liking that and everything I have read so far.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Boris_Becker_Delta_Core_London_Tour/descpageRCVOLKL-BBDCLT.html
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When I hit with it stock, strung at a comparable 60/57 with Gripper, I thought it to be around 60, but once I did the elementary mods, it felt softer. Then, I added just 2 grams to each side at 3/9, and it was crazy plush, easily around 57 IMPO. So as all DC frames, it is very mod and string sensitive.

I am giving a real go after I teach within 90 min on the LES. Get back to you then.
 
TennisMaverick said:
These mods were done to mimic a Prestige Classic, with the traditional 3/9 mod:

1/2 white athletic tape to cover capped grommet- 5 grams
3 grams in throat/bridge area
2 grams@3/9 each(inside the frame on either side of the grommets)
Leather Grip

This is not for my personal, but for players to demo who play 6.0-7.0. My mods are still a work in progress with this; I cannot do what I did with my T10 Mids because the DC and lack of Titanium changes everything, plus the lay-up is different.
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I find it interesting that the mods above are very close to the mods on my regular London. You put 1/2" athletic tape over the whole capped grommets, while I have 1" head tape over the whole bumper. I don't know how much weight that adds to my stick, but it works for me. I remember that you questioned me on that when I first mentioned the head tape, but you see that very light and distributed weight works on these DC frames in this area. My shoulder/bridge/throat mods are similar, but I don't have any weight at 3/9. As you know, if you hold a regular, stock London in your hand, you feel all the weight at 3/9, so weight on the handle, throat, bridge, shoulders, and a hint at 11/12/1 really balances the frame out.

The layup of the Tour must be different than the regular London for you to put weight at 3/9. Why did you put weight there and how do they distribute the DC on the Tour: at the poles or concentrated at 3/9?

I feel like I have the type of game that's an almost dovetail fit for the regular London. And that being the case, I would benefit more from the 18x20 pattern that is only offered in the Tour and Melbourne. I really miss that consistent response from a tighter, more precise pattern. You seem to have your finger on the pulse of Volkl/BB R&D. If Volkl is consistent in offering an open pattern for the 9, 10, and Mid series, what are the chances that BB will be as consistent in the future and offer the 18x20 pattern in their own "9," 10, and Mid series, i.e., London, Melbourne, London Tour? The London is the only standout frame in the top BB series that doesn't offer such. I've never had any trouble controlling the London unless my game was just off, but maybe Volkl/BB R&D will listen to all the complaints about the London being just short of a canon and tighten the string pattern. In a perfect world, that might be the perfect London---regular London. Sorry for the rant, I guess I'm just a little jealous!
 
I'm pumped for this frame. I really liked the K Blade Tour and almost bought it, but convinced myself that I needed a bigger head-size so I had purchased the Head Speed 18x20. Switched to the London 98 for arm reasons and love the feel, but I do have slightly less control than with the Speeds. I really want to try this frame.
 
Pneumated1 said:
Why did you put weight there and how do they distribute the DC on the Tour: at the poles or concentrated at 3/9?
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See comment#103

Pneumated1 said:
The London is the only standout frame in the top BB series that doesn't offer such. I've never had any trouble controlling the London unless my game was just off, but maybe Volkl/BB R&D will listen to all the complaints about the London being just short of a canon and tighten the string pattern. In a perfect world, that might be the perfect London---regular London. Sorry for the rant, I guess I'm just a little jealous!
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The London is the best of both BB 11s. Without the heavy DC wings to drive through the ball and the BB 11's spin production without full poly strung loosely was lacking, so the power/spin would have to come from 16 mains.

Those who can't control the London's power, clearly cannot string.
 
TennisMaverick said:
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The London is the best of both BB 11s. Without the heavy DC wings to drive through the ball and the BB 11's spin production without full poly strung loosely was lacking, so the power/spin would have to come from 16 mains.

Those who can't control the London's power, clearly cannot string.
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Yeah, I quoted #103 in my previous post. I know what you said, but I was just curious if you did it because of layup changes/DC integration in the Tour, maybe in addition to your goal of mimicking a Prestige Classic. I'm not as interested in the Tour as the direction BB may go with the regular London update in the distant future. And I know it won't be updated for some time, but what DC layup changes do you see in this new version?

The London is not an overly powerful frame; I'll continue to argue the point. But again, I can understand why they put the 16 mains in the London, but if this new layup works in the Tour with 18 mains, why wouldn't it work in a future update of the regular, with a similar layup? I can probably answer my own question: I'd guess that the 16 mains make the London more popular, and sales are going to drive future design. You know when you answer your own questions, it's time to give it a rest!

I'll say this in closing: The London may be an extremely popular frame, and I would continue hitting it as is, but many people appear to have overcome their initial love affair with the London. I think more stock weight and a tighter string pattern would make it more of a mainstay in people's bags---if the layup was accommodating for such changes.

Sorry for the derailment of your new thread; I'll give it back over.
 
canadad said:
I'm pumped for this frame. I really liked the K Blade Tour and almost bought it, but convinced myself that I needed a bigger head-size so I had purchased the Head Speed 18x20. Switched to the London 98 for arm reasons and love the feel, but I do have slightly less control than with the Speeds. I really want to try this frame.
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Yeah, she's quite tempting, by all appearances. But I'll stick with her homely little sister; she won't break my tender little heart.
 
Shawn James said:
just curious on this, is it a better playing frame than the tour 10 mid.
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Sent this to another poster who bought 4-5 of my T10 Mids two summers ago:

"It is identical to the T10 Mid, but softer, and a little lighter because of the DeltaCore nano carbon, but much more stable. It is better in every way than the T10 Mid. It hits a real heavy ball, slices with tons of mph and rpm, and the string bed response is awesome."
 
bad_call said:
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Let me just say that the only spec I pay attention to flex. It does give a very general idea where it is. I have me own specs that I have ALL of my racquets customized to. So what weight, balance, and swing weight a racquet comes stock is irrelevant to me.
 
Pneumated1 said:
The London is not an overly powerful frame; I'll continue to argue the point. But again, I can understand why they put the 16 mains in the London, but if this new layup works in the Tour with 18 mains, why wouldn't it work in a future update of the regular, with a similar layup? I can probably answer my own question: I'd guess that the 16 mains make the London more popular, and sales are going to drive future design. You know when you answer your own questions, it's time to give it a rest!

I'll say this in closing: The London may be an extremely popular frame, and I would continue hitting it as is, but many people appear to have overcome their initial love affair with the London.
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If you search for "London" in the F/S listings, you will find about 20 listings in the last few month's. The reason I believe, is that most people have trouble controlling it's power and get frustrated and sell it. There is nothing else I can see as being wrong with the racquet...the feel at impact is one of the best I have ever felt. The touch is wonderful and the weight and balance and swingweight is perfect. One thing I have discovered with flexible racquets, is that it's tough for me to get power with them on serve, even though they are very powerful on groundstrokes. Stiffer racquets seem to work better for serving power AND groundstroke power, without launching balls now and then. I think the London's flexy nature, which provides a nice pocketing effect, sometimes works against you. A stiffer frame will give you a more predictable response since the frame is not adding as much flex and rebound. There is a reason why most pro's use stiff frames. You would think with all the playing they do, they would use flexy frames that protect their arms, but they don't for the most part.
 
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Several posters state its solid feel and good plough through, but the SW of 308 seems really low to me..

Does it play like the kblade tour? I thought that stick had a nice feel but was too flimsy as well for a players stick
 
JackB1 said:
If you search for "London" in the F/S listings, you will find about 20 listings in the last few month's. The reason I believe, is that most people have trouble controlling it's power and get frustrated and sell it. There is nothing else I can see as being wrong with the racquet...the feel at impact is one of the best I have ever felt. The touch is wonderful and the weight and balance and swingweight is perfect. One thing I have discovered with flexible racquets, is that it's tough for me to get power with them on serve, even though they are very powerful on groundstrokes. Stiffer racquets seem to work better for serving power AND groundstroke power, without launching balls now and then. I think the London's flexy nature, which provides a nice pocketing effect, sometimes works against you. A stiffer frame will give you a more predictable response since the frame is not adding as much flex and rebound. There is a reason why most pro's use stiff frames. You would think with all the playing they do, they would use flexy frames that protect their arms, but they don't for the most part.
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The London is a niche frame, and I'm surprised that it's as popular as it is. My theory is that people are mesmerized by its "feel" and somehow try to make it work, to no avail. I disagree that the weight/balance/swingweight are perfect, at least not for me. I've tried to make it work for me stock, but I feel too much head weight, as the density is clearly in the hoop wings. I suspect that the stick maintains it its flexibility from the throat and upper hoop. I think a heavy spin player could add a little at 11/12/1, but with limited success, as the "flex" of the frame would create short responses at best, and not nearly as much juice as a Babolat, etc.

The secret to this amazing frame, imo, is to add around a 1/2oz. to the handle, whether through a heavy leather or lead and 3-5 grams of lead from 5/6/7 through the throat. I also cover the bumper with head tape. These changes create more nimbleness in the mid-upper hoop, and in my experience, knocks off some of the pop from this region. As such, you can grind and/or hit flat with great control and amazing stability. At net it's a wall. I'd guess mine weigh in around 11.8-12oz. And the closest stick I can compare it to at this weight with these mods is the BB11, but with much more control and maneuverability. In stock form, I think it would work for a player with a similar style/swing to mine, but with a much faster swing speed. It's a niche frame.:) If you want to discuss it further, jump over to the London thread.
 
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borgpro said:
Several posters state its solid feel and good plough through, but the SW of 308 seems really low to me..

Does it play like the kblade tour? I thought that stick had a nice feel but was too flimsy as well for a players stick
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I guarantee you it's not as low as the TW number. My sticks are usually at least 10 pts higher than what they say.
 
Pneumated1 said:
The London is a niche frame, and I'm surprised that it's as popular as it is. My theory is that people are mesmerized by its "feel" and somehow try to make it work, to no avail. I disagree that the weight/balance/swingweight are perfect, at least not for me. I've tried to make it work for me stock, but I feel too much head weight, as the density is clearly in the hoop wings. I suspect that the stick maintains it its flexibility from the throat and upper hoop. I think a heavy spin player could add a little at 11/12/1, but with limited success, as the "flex" of the frame would create short responses at best, and not nearly as much juice as a Babolat, etc.
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That's EXACTLY what I did. If you search my posts, you will see where I stated that "ball impact feels so good, I will find a way to make it work".

Sorry all for the momentary threadjack.
 
borgpro said:
Several posters state its solid feel and good plough through, but the SW of 308 seems really low to me..

Does it play like the kblade tour? I thought that stick had a nice feel but was too flimsy as well for a players stick
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It was designed to be customized, and to keep the weight low enough so that there are no complaints that it is too heavy for those who prefer it to be played stock.

As I've mentioned before, it hits a heavier ball than my PB 10 Mid does at 396 grams.
 
From Boris Becker Tennis- Just In!

DC London Tour

The DC London Tour is designed with the hard-core tournament player in mind. The flexible frame offers tremendous control and touch, while our patented Delta Core material enhances the frame to offer more power and stability. The 93 square inch head, along with the 18 X 20 string pattern will help provide the true player a heavy, crisp shot. The unique combination of a flexible power frame is the must have for anyone looking to take their game to the championship level.

Head size 600cm2 | 93 in2
Cross section 20 mm
Weight 320 g | 11.3 oz
Length 68.5 cm | 27 in
Balance 31.5 cm | 1.1 in HL
String pattern 18 x 20

|Sensor Tour Handle System|
|Cushtac Grip|
|DeltaCore, Carbon-Graphite, Fiberglass|
 
Emergency Backup

I ordered one of these as an emergency backup to my beloved Redondo 98's. The stock specs are quite different but I just couldn't resist owning this gorgeous stick - the PJ's matter. It reminds me of my old Prestige Tour Mids (the really heavy/head light Trysis models with the suspension grips)... and my Redondo's too - I really like dark red I guess. Anyway I hate sticking lead on my racquets so I'll try it totally stock first and see how it goes.
 
DavidNERODease said:
I ordered one of these as an emergency backup to my beloved Redondo 98's. The stock specs are quite different but I just couldn't resist owning this gorgeous stick - the PJ's matter. It reminds me of my old Prestige Tour Mids (the really heavy/head light Trysis models with the suspension grips)... and my Redondo's too - I really like dark red I guess. Anyway I hate sticking lead on my racquets so I'll try it totally stock first and see how it goes.
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Please share your experience, especially compared to Prestige Tour Mid. And I was thinking about getting Redondo 98 too, maybe London Tour will easily replace those two
 
maxpotapov said:
Please share your experience, especially compared to Prestige Tour Mid. And I was thinking about getting Redondo 98 too, maybe London Tour will easily replace those two
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I beefed-up my London Tour to 360 grams, which is about 12 grams heavier than a stock Prestige Classic. Most classic users I know added at least 12 grams of tape. At this weight, it is now the most plush/buttery Volkl that I have ever played with, including the PB 10 Mid and T10 VE Mid. I permanently switched over last week, and I have just received 5 more frames.
 
TennisMaverick said:
I beefed-up my London Tour to 360 grams, which is about 12 grams heavier than a stock Prestige Classic. Most classic users I know added at least 12 grams of tape. At this weight, it is now the most plush/buttery Volkl that I have ever played with, including the PB 10 Mid and T10 VE Mid. I permanently switched over last week, and I have just received 5 more frames.
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I guess it was not just electric tape + leather grip this time, what is your setup now?
 
TennisMaverick said:
I sent a frame to Alabama and Colorado, and they got it Wed. Did you get it in VA?
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I called my wife on the way home and she said that it had arrived. The scary thing is that we think it sat there on the porch for over 24 hours. I got in late yesterday, and nobody checked. I can think of other parts of the country where that package would have grown legs and disappeared.:)

Btw, all jokes aside, what a sweet mod job. I really miss being able to mod a frame up like that. It just wouldn't work on the London. Also, what's the stringing range on the frame? Your 1/2" lead in the throat covers that up. And thanks again!
 
Pneumated1 said:
I called my wife on the way home and she said that it had arrived. The scary thing is that we think it sat there on the porch for over 24 hours. I got in late yesterday, and nobody checked. I can think of other parts of the country where that package would have grown legs and disappeared.:)

Btw, all jokes aside, what a sweet mod job. I really miss being able to mod a frame up like that. It just wouldn't work on the London. Also, what's the stringing range on the frame? Your 1/2" lead in the throat covers that up. And thanks again!
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You neighborhood is really a wonderful place to raise a family. If diversity wasn't an issue, my daughter may have attended Sweet Briar or RMWC, even though she was accepted to Ivies, Poison Ivies, Seven Sisters, and NESCAC. As a parent, I felt that they were just real nurturing and safe places, both on and off campus. Even Lynchburg College, although not highly ranked, is a real welcoming place. My stick would have probably still been on your porch through Irene's rath come Sunday.

Check the last post on the X Club thread and see if you can help.

The range for V1 stringing is: 55+/-lbs. Still drop the cross string tension 2-3 lbs.
 
TennisMaverick said:
You neighborhood is really a wonderful place to raise a family. If diversity wasn't an issue, my daughter may have attended Sweet Briar or RMWC, even though she was accepted to Ivies, Poison Ivies, Seven Sisters, and NESCAC. As a parent, I felt that they were just real nurturing and safe places, both on and off campus. Even Lynchburg College, although not highly ranked, is a real welcoming place. My stick would have probably still been on your porch through Irene's rath come Sunday.

Check the last post on the X Club thread and see if you can help.

The range for V1 stringing is: 55+/-lbs. Still drop the cross string tension 2-3 lbs.
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My wife played softball for and graduated from LC. It's a small school with a big reputation, believe it or not, in athletics and academics. Lynchburg would have been my choice over the other two, as my wife was exposed to more "diversity" there than I cared to deal with, being a female athlete. Good schools, though, all three. If you visited Sweet Briar, I hope you got to eat at the Briar Patch Restaurant, right off of 29. My aunt and uncle used to run the place. They made a killing and even served "Jacki O" there one night. Also, you were right across from one of the premiere golf courses in the area, maybe the state: Poplar Grove. I can't remember if it was a Pete Dye or Trent-Jones design, but it's an amazing course, if you're into golf at all.

After I asked for the stringing range, it dawned on me that I could have pulled them off of the website; like, duh! Thanks anyway!
 
Pneumated1 said:
My wife played softball for and graduated from LC. It's a small school with a big reputation, believe it or not, in athletics and academics. Lynchburg would have been my choice over the other two, as my wife was exposed to more "diversity" there than I cared to deal with, being a female athlete. Good schools, though, all three. If you visited Sweet Briar, I hope you got to eat at the Briar Patch Restaurant, right off of 29. My aunt and uncle used to run the place. They made a killing and even served "Jacki O" there one night. Also, you were right across from one of the premiere golf courses in the area, maybe the state: Poplar Grove. I can't remember if it was a Pete Dye or Trent-Jones design, but it's an amazing course, if you're into golf at all.

After I asked for the stringing range, it dawned on me that I could have pulled them off of the website; like, duh! Thanks anyway!
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Missed you family's restaurant, but not the golf course. The LC staff was awesome. They heavily recruited my son, the coach was a really respectful kid--he was like 25/26--and my son really liked it there, although you have to choose bet the NJ crowd and all of you Southerners. He liked the South, and that says a lot for a UWS prep school kid, so he chose bet Hendrix and Bates, and spent 5 years in AR. He says Southern cuisine tastes too good--you can find every kind of restaurant from every part of the world here in NYC, but I don't know of one that caters to deep fried everything!
 
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Missed you family's restaurant, but not the golf course. The LC staff was awesome. They heavily recruited my son, the coach was a really respectful kid--he was like 25/26--and my son really liked it there, although you have to choose bet the NJ crowd and all of you Southerners. He liked the South, and that says a lot for a UWS prep school kid, so he chose bet Hendrix and Bates, and spent 5 years in AR. He says Southern cuisine tastes too good--you can find every kind of restaurant from every part of the world here in NYC, but I don't know of one that caters to deep fried everything!
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The restaurant hasn't been in the family for twenty-five years or so, but its reputation remains strong. As far as the "NJ crowd and you Southerners," until recently I worked with an African-American woman from South Carolina who argued strongly that Va is not a southern state. I'll concede this, though: the central/southern/western parts of the state are more stereotypical of the South, whereas Richmond northward is more reflective of DC/Maryland in pace of life. The coast is a culture all its own and my preferential place to live one day---albeit the Va, NC, or SC Coast. As far as your son liking the South, it makes sense to me. I would think that the South still maintains values that many Asian Americans and Asians in general can appreciate, although I would surmise that NYC provides a more acceptable pace of life more comparable to many Asian cities. A lot of my Korean friends complain about the slower pace of the area, but they mostly hail from Seoul---a veritable bee hive.

Any of those schools that you listed, however, have more representation by "you'ze guyz" than us "po country foke." To someone in NYC, my area would most likely seem to be a most ideal place to raise a family. I would agree for the most part, but the area is changing, gradually.

I think the package might have been okay until Sunday, but I'm glad the porch is surrounded by boxwoods. We're not quite Mayberry anymore.:) That's far enough on this tangent, I would guess.:)
 
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oh my...

suppawat said:
Comparing side-by-side, the London Tour is a bit larger than PC600 and wider than PB10. The position that shafts split is closer to the handle like PC600.

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I know I'm late to this party, but wow. Sweet frame. I've read the comparisons to the PC in the thread, any users of the PT630/280 have any thoughts? I wish I knew this frame was coming out before I made the switch to the YTPP, oh well maybe next year I'll demo this one...
 
Solid

My London Tour arrived today. What a beautiful, slender, aerodynamic frame - no silly lumps or bulky areas - love it. It does feel very sollid in my hand but I won't get a chance to hit with it until Monday :(
 
Here's question I haven't seen asked.............how does the new London Mid compare to the C7 Comp Mid?
Very similar specs on the racquets and red burgundy paint jobs. I have a C7 and it is the most plush of all the Volkls I have owned. However, I do not get a lot of pace from it which could be due to it being very old. They appear to be different molds but very alike in other aspects.
Any ideas
 
richie65 said:
Here's question I haven't seen asked.............how does the new London Mid compare to the C7 Comp Mid?
Very similar specs on the racquets and red burgundy paint jobs. I have a C7 and it is the most plush of all the Volkls I have owned. However, I do not get a lot of pace from it which could be due to it being very old. They appear to be different molds but very alike in other aspects.
Any ideas
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Are you talking about the C7 classic Pro--I am looking at one, which is 18x20--want it? If so, it doesn't have a fully capped grommet, nor is a 93in2. I only remember the Comp 10 in a 93in2. The London Tour is the T10 Mid, without the titanium, and with the addition of DC. It is very, very soft. I think that it is the softest 93in2 that they have made since they entered the USA.
 
TennisMaverick said:
Are you talking about the C7 classic Pro--I am looking at one, which is 18x20--want it? If so, it doesn't have a fully capped grommet, nor is a 93in2. I only remember the Comp 10 in a 93in2. The London Tour is the T10 Mid, without the titanium, and with the addition of DC. It is very, very soft. I think that it is the softest 93in2 that they have made since they entered the USA.
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I think I have a different model. This is the C7 Comp Series, 18x20, 93in2 constant beam, tension range 51+/-4. Colours are red/black fade with some gold flecks. Short bumper guard. Plays very flexy, but stable. I really enjoy hitting with every once and while, but it is too low powered for daily use.

I'm interested in the London as it just looks so cool with good specs. Currently, I'm playing with a Diablo Mid and really playing quite well with it.
 
richie65 said:
I think I have a different model. This is the C7 Comp Series, 18x20, 93in2 constant beam, tension range 51+/-4. Colours are red/black fade with some gold flecks. Short bumper guard. Plays very flexy, but stable. I really enjoy hitting with every once and while, but it is too low powered for daily use.

I'm interested in the London as it just looks so cool with good specs. Currently, I'm playing with a Diablo Mid and really playing quite well with it.
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Hmmn...I don't even remember that stick. I always played with the 10 line, except for the original Tournament Pro and a prototype which they never marketed, and I only used 93in2. If you ever get a chance and can send a photo in an email through the site with your cell, that would be really cool. I'd like to see it.
 
I demoed the Becker London Tour with Volkl Power Fiber II today. The paintjob is great, but the head shape is clearly larger, being wider at the lower part of the hoop, and longer mains.
BTW, I've had the Head Prestige Classic, the Classic Mid, the Prestige Tour, and the Youtek Prestige Mid which I currently use and have 5 of.
My opinion is that it doesn't have the zip of any of these Head racquets, except the Prestige Tour. It is most like the Prestige Tour as far as flex and its mushy quality, but without the annoying click of the suspension handle.
It doesn't serve with much zip like a classic Prestige where the mains seem to spit the ball out. I just felt all the flexing with not enough plow.
 
stecken71 said:
I demoed the Becker London Tour with Volkl Power Fiber II today. The paintjob is great, but the head shape is clearly larger, being wider at the lower part of the hoop, and longer mains.
BTW, I've had the Head Prestige Classic, the Classic Mid, the Prestige Tour, and the Youtek Prestige Mid which I currently use and have 5 of.
My opinion is that it doesn't have the zip of any of these Head racquets, except the Prestige Tour. It is most like the Prestige Tour as far as flex and its mushy quality, but without the annoying click of the suspension handle.
It doesn't serve with much zip like a classic Prestige where the mains seem to spit the ball out. I just felt all the flexing with not enough plow.
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Add 10-12 grams so that it weighs the same as the Prestige; you'll feel a huge difference.
 
stecken71 said:
I demoed the Becker London Tour with Volkl Power Fiber II today. The paintjob is great, but the head shape is clearly larger, being wider at the lower part of the hoop, and longer mains.
BTW, I've had the Head Prestige Classic, the Classic Mid, the Prestige Tour, and the Youtek Prestige Mid which I currently use and have 5 of.
My opinion is that it doesn't have the zip of any of these Head racquets, except the Prestige Tour. It is most like the Prestige Tour as far as flex and its mushy quality, but without the annoying click of the suspension handle.
It doesn't serve with much zip like a classic Prestige where the mains seem to spit the ball out. I just felt all the flexing with not enough plow.
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TennisMaverick said:
Add 10-12 grams so that it weighs the same as the Prestige; you'll feel a huge difference.
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That reminds me of that Volkswagon advert, where they show different clips of people getting in out of cars and in each clip the non-Volkswagon person/salesman says 'It's just like a Golf', 'It looks like a Golf', 'It will handle like a Golf' Then they cut to the end credits which read, "Why drive something like a Golf when you can drive a Golf."

As for the BB London Tour, someone at Volkl must have a sense of humour if they think a racquet as lightweight as this and with a swingweight as low as 308g should be called 'Tour'.
 
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Torres said:
As for the BB London Tour, someone at Volkl must have a sense of humour if they think a racquet as lightweight as this and with a swingweight as low as 308g should be called 'Tour'.
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How many retail racquets actually deserve the name "Tour" in their stock form?
I know one, Six.One Tour. Oh, and there is also Dunlop 200 Tour.

As for Head Prestige, I would opt for pro stock version and then customize it to my liking. Wait, London Tour specs look just like Head pro stock at half the price!
 
maxpotapov said:
How many retail racquets actually deserve the name "Tour" in their stock form?
I know one, Six.One Tour. Oh, and there is also Dunlop 200 Tour.

As for Head Prestige, I would opt for pro stock version and then customize it to my liking. Wait, London Tour specs look just like Head pro stock at half the price!
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Hey!

The market for a 330 gram frame is very small. As good as it is, that hurts the PB 10 Mid's sales, and certainly hurts the Melbourne, which is really an incredible player's 98in2 frame, since people prefer lighter with larger. Introducing a 320 gram frame allows the frame to be welcomed by many more consumers, and for those who wish to weight-it-up, they can do so. My Tour is currently at 365 grams, 31 grams less than my PB 10 Mids, and it is more plush/buttery and hits a heavier ball, believe it or not. How much it plays like the Prestiges, the full graphite ones, I personally cannot say, but one of my guys who works with many of the top juniors in the East, and a 6.5 player, says they do, and he has been using that stick since he was like 15, if not younger, way back in '96.
 
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