BB London Tour 93in2 Club

I was a Volkl PB 10 MP user before I dwelved into the old Prestiges and finally the Youtek Prestige Mid. I could do drive slice backhands very well with that racquet, but I sliced even better the Prestiges.
Right before I went to Head, I tried the PB 10 mid. Everything was great except for the slice backhand. The hoop was not stiff enough to my taste, even after I had leaded it. I would have to say the same with the London Tour. I think these two racquets don't keep the slice ultra low. The Dunlop Muscleweave 95 is another racquet that comes to mind with that shortcoming. Great scalpel feel,
and feel is important, but I want a knife-like cut on the ball off the backhand wing. Do you get that effect with the 360 gram version you've made, Tennis Maverick?
BTW, I did love the Dunlop 4D 200 Tour. That racquet needed no lead for sure.
 
I was a Volkl PB 10 MP user before I dwelved into the old Prestiges and finally the Youtek Prestige Mid. I could do drive slice backhands very well with that racquet, but I sliced even better the Prestiges.
Right before I went to Head, I tried the PB 10 mid. Everything was great except for the slice backhand. The hoop was not stiff enough to my taste, even after I had leaded it. I would have to say the same with the London Tour. I think these two racquets don't keep the slice ultra low. The Dunlop Muscleweave 95 is another racquet that comes to mind with that shortcoming. Great scalpel feel,
and feel is important, but I want a knife-like cut on the ball off the backhand wing. Do you get that effect with the 360 gram version you've made, Tennis Maverick?
BTW, I did love the Dunlop 4D 200 Tour. That racquet needed no lead for sure.

This requires a little detail. I'll hit you back later. Heading out to NTC.
 
My London Tour ended up at 12.0oz strung with an overwrap and the stock damper installed. Balance felt pretty good and I was happy to see the scale read at least 12.0oz although my Redondo 98's end up at 12.5 and 12.7oz (not happy with my second Redondo being 12.7 because the 12.5 is perfect).
Anyway I have about 5-6 hours of doubles play on the racquet now but I have to admit that I have been a little ill the last two days (and played like a dying man) so my evaluation is far from complete. So far I have not been able to accelerate the racquet head like I can with my Redondo 98's which I confuses me - I must be in a weakend physical state at the moment. Also I couldn't resist installing the Becker hybrid at my standard tension 52lbs (gut in the mains) and although I'm very pleased with the quality of this hybrid I just can't seem to get the same zip and ferocity I get with Tour Bite 17. I probably need a redo on this first test so I'll stop blabbing.
 
I was a Volkl PB 10 MP user before I dwelved into the old Prestiges and finally the Youtek Prestige Mid. I could do drive slice backhands very well with that racquet, but I sliced even better the Prestiges.
Right before I went to Head, I tried the PB 10 mid. Everything was great except for the slice backhand. The hoop was not stiff enough to my taste, even after I had leaded it. I would have to say the same with the London Tour. I think these two racquets don't keep the slice ultra low. The Dunlop Muscleweave 95 is another racquet that comes to mind with that shortcoming. Great scalpel feel,
and feel is important, but I want a knife-like cut on the ball off the backhand wing. Do you get that effect with the 360 gram version you've made, Tennis Maverick?
BTW, I did love the Dunlop 4D 200 Tour. That racquet needed no lead for sure.

We didn't get the same read off the sticks that you did. Perhaps Dunlop is just a better fit for you.

My slice works well with my PB 10 Mid, which is 396 grams. With my London Tour, the slice skids even more, with more mph and rpm. Many describe my slice as real old school, knifed, very skiddy, and very low. I've coached high ranked female players who complain whenever I hit that shot, because few of their opponents use it. I frequently slice CC and then take the next ball immediately as it comes back and slice it down the line, to force younger, current players to be stressed on-the-run with their Western FH grips, so I live off my slice a good 70% of the time off my BH side, and both sticks work great for me. The other two players associated with me who use either frame, feel the same, and state that the slice with the London Tour is better.
 
I played doubles with the London Tour and was able to slice much better with it than my days with the PB 10 mid. I never leaded the PB 10 mid to 390 grams either, though.
But I think Head Prestiges just give me the pure confidence to hit through completely. Perhaps it's the long mains, short cross combo of that oval head shape which helps me. The London Tour's head shape more approximates that set up than the bullet head shape of the PB 10 mid.
BTW, I do possess a low skidding slice which gives juniors trouble as well. I have an admiration for Rosewall's slice and Graf's slice. Just recently I met a junior girl who could gobble up my slice with her continental forehand fh drive, legs bent down fully.
 
RE: the conversation above about best "slice" racquet, I still have yet to find one that drives it better than the BB11SE. That stick, for me, hit a better slice than my prestiges, head pro tours, radicals, or any wilson frame I tried. I've not hit with any Volkl sticks, just some of the BB series.

With all this, I am more intrigued with this BBL tour 93. I like that it has much room to customize; I'll be on the lookout for used ones, or a demo session soon enough.
 
RE: the conversation above about best "slice" racquet, I still have yet to find one that drives it better than the BB11SE. That stick, for me, hit a better slice than my prestiges, head pro tours, radicals, or any wilson frame I tried. I've not hit with any Volkl sticks, just some of the BB series.

With all this, I am more intrigued with this BBL tour 93. I like that it has much room to customize; I'll be on the lookout for used ones, or a demo session soon enough.

The BB11SE was obviously a fully loaded player's stick, so it will make the ball do whatever it asks. But when you compare apples to apples, the smaller the head, the more bite their is on the slice. Conversely, the bigger the head, the easier/better it is to hit flat/topspin, especially with a OHBH. Both my PB 10 Mid and London Tour bite more than the SE at 396/365 grams respectively.
 
TennisMaverick,

I love how the DC London Tour plays in stock form, but since I typically make contact with the ball about 2 cross strings higher than dead center, how much lead should I attempt to add to the 2 and 10 o'clock area to stretch the sweet spot? Without changing its playing characteristic?

Thanks in advance.
 
TennisMaverick,

I love how the DC London Tour plays in stock form, but since I typically make contact with the ball about 2 cross strings higher than dead center, how much lead should I attempt to add to the 2 and 10 o'clock area to stretch the sweet spot? Without changing its playing characteristic?

Thanks in advance.

With this fully capped grommet system, try this real simple mod:

Completely cover the whole capped grommet with 1/2 athletic or hockey tape. That is about 5 grams.

If that doesn't work, this stick does real well with the simple 3/9 placements:

Start with 4 inches. but instead of centering at the sweetspot, center the lead tape two crosses above the sweet spot.
 
Thanks for the tips. I am a total newbie when it comes to racquet mods. I got some 1/4" lead tape, so when you say 4 inches, do you mean 4 pieces of 4 inches? Or 4 pieces of 1 inch tape?

If you don't mind, I have a question about string tension. Through your other posts, you have recommended the drop of about 3 lbs in the cross string to maximize the ball pocketing effect. I'm currently using a hybrid setup with poly in the mains and multi in the crosses. I have dropped it by 5 lbs between main and cross strings, do you think I should drop it even more?
 
Thanks for the tips. I am a total newbie when it comes to racquet mods. I got some 1/4" lead tape, so when you say 4 inches, do you mean 4 pieces of 4 inches? Or 4 pieces of 1 inch tape?

If you don't mind, I have a question about string tension. Through your other posts, you have recommended the drop of about 3 lbs in the cross string to maximize the ball pocketing effect. I'm currently using a hybrid setup with poly in the mains and multi in the crosses. I have dropped it by 5 lbs between main and cross strings, do you think I should drop it even more?

Skipping the first suggestion and going straight to the second is definitely a mistake.

1/4 in tape: is it twice the thickness of 1/2 in or the same?

My suggestion was 4 inches long, 1/2 in tape, 1/4 on each side of the grommet.

You seriously need to read the PB 10 Mid Club and Organix club threads. They have every answer for you.

With this stick, if I strung poly mains and multi crosses, my crosses would be 3-6 lbs tighter, depending on string type exactly, stringing machine type, and stringer craftsmanship. Read those two threads!
 
Tennis Maverick, do you think that the slice backhand with this stick could be even better than the v-engine 10 mid's one? i'm currently using this sweet Volkl and i'm really happy in every aspect of the game,and the slice BH is absolutely stunning. For a classic game, with flat strokes, wich one is better in your opinion? Thanks

On a side note, my V-engine mid is leaded up to 362 grams
 
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Tennis Maverick, do you think that the slice backhand with this stick could be even better than the v-engine 10 mid's one? i'm currently using this sweet Volkl and i'm really happy in every aspect of the game,and the slice BH is absolutely stunning. For a classic game, with flat strokes, wich one is better in your opinion? Thanks

On a side note, my V-engine mid is leaded up to 362 grams

I'm right there with you; everyone knows that the T10 VE Mid has been my favorite stick. My T10 VE Mids were 385 grams, and I drove flat FHs, slice BHs, and felt volleys like they were hit with the palm of my hand. However, the PB 10 Mid was very close, as the PB replaced the VE, and the head shape was almost identical. Also, the string bed difference was overcome by the PB 10 Mid's 16-main's long dwell time, which I increased with 10 grams more than my VEs. But I still prefer 18-mains, and the responsiveness of the Tour's string bed and the ball's heaviness at a lighter weight due to the DC and the plow of the capped grommet, IMPO, makes it a better stick. The kicker for me is the racquet face responsiveness. The responsive string bed of both the London Tour and Melbourne with the Volkl feel, is really special. It feels like my old Kneissl White Star Mids at 93in2.
 
I'm right there with you; everyone knows that the T10 VE Mid has been my favorite stick. My T10 VE Mids were 385 grams, and I drove flat FHs, slice BHs, and felt volleys like they were hit with the palm of my hand. However, the PB 10 Mid was very close, as the PB replaced the VE, and the head shape was almost identical. Also, the string bed difference was overcome by the PB 10 Mid's 16-main's long dwell time, which I increased with 10 grams more than my VEs. But I still prefer 18-mains, and the responsiveness of the Tour's string bed and the ball's heaviness at a lighter weight due to the DC and the plow of the capped grommet, IMPO, makes it a better stick. The kicker for me is the racquet face responsiveness. The responsive string bed of both the London Tour and Melbourne with the Volkl feel, is really special. It feels like my old Kneissl White Star Mids at 93in2.

Last summer, i used to play with the C 10 comp mid, great great racquet too. i love the spin, the serve and the overall fell.But 3 months ago i decided to give my v- engine mid a try again, and in that moment i really understood what i was missing: precision, a lighter Sw, controllable power and great returns. i think i'm goin to order the london tour very soon, thanks for your tips.
 
Racquet Spec

Went to a local shop to get the spec of my current DC London Tour. The shop was only able to do static weight and balance. My racquet came out to 331 gram and 10pt HL. I'm a bit surprised how far off it is from what TW posted on the product spec page. Anyone else share similar experience?
 
Went to a local shop to get the spec of my current DC London Tour. The shop was only able to do static weight and balance. My racquet came out to 331 gram and 10pt HL. I'm a bit surprised how far off it is from what TW posted on the product spec page. Anyone else share similar experience?

If that is unstrung, it is out of specs. Volkl's tolerances are tighter than industry standards. However, your stick is what I would prefer, 330 grams.
 
Sorry, it is strung with 17G poly mains and multi crosses. The 330 gram is probably there, but I'm just surprised about how HL it is.
 
The shop I went to is telling me that my racquet is 10pt HL strung, that can't be normal, is it? Thinking I should try a different store to spec it again.
 
Volkl Gut Experience on the London Tour

TennisMaverick,

Since you are the Volkl product master, did you ever get a chance to try out the Volkl Natural Gut strings? I'm leaning towards going full gut with the London Tour, just wondering if I should bother giving the Volkl gut a shot, or I should just stick to Babolat (prob. the Tonic+ 16g).

Thanks,
Dech
 
TennisMaverick,

Since you are the Volkl product master, did you ever get a chance to try out the Volkl Natural Gut strings? I'm leaning towards going full gut with the London Tour, just wondering if I should bother giving the Volkl gut a shot, or I should just stick to Babolat (prob. the Tonic+ 16g).

Thanks,
Dech

Volkl gut is first class; Tonic+ is second class. Big difference. Volkl is stiffer than VS, Babolat's first class gut, but holds tension much better/longer. It plays snappier.
 
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not much action in this post... here are my thoughts on it.

I have had this racquet for about a week and have played with it two times.

Feel: Great, muted with the hybrid I have though (I would like to crispen up just a bit or use a less effective dampner)

Power: Very low, but hey I like that. You get in what you put out

Spin: Moderate to High Much more than I was expecting from the 18X20. Topspin easily generated and slice is great as well

Touch: Amazing, has an old school feel in regards to touch

Serve: Average, no Pure Drive but not bad either

Net: Above Avergage, hit it pure and its great. Offcenter volleys land short

Groundstrokes: Excellent, can really take a big cut without fear of hitting the fence on both wings. Real stable

Overall, I like it a lot so far. Kind of like a tamed down version of the PB10 Mid and IMO considerably better than the T10 Mid as its more stable. For me, all racquets are a give and take and this one have no real weakness and plays bigger than the "mid" designation.
 
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not much action in this post... here are my thoughts on it.

I have had this racquet for about a week and have played with it two times.

Feel: Great, muted with the hybrid I have though (I would like to crispen up just a bit or use a less effective dampner)

Power: Very low, but hey I like that. You get in what you put out

Spin: Moderate to High Much more than I was expecting from the 18X20. Topspin easily generated and slice is great as well

Touch: Amazing, has an old school feel in regards to touch

Serve: Average, no Pure Drive but not bad either

Net: Above Avergage, hit it pure and its great. Offcenter volleys land short

Groundstrokes: Excellent, can really take a big cut without fear of hitting the fence on both wings. Real stable

Overall, I like it a lot so far. Kind of like a tamed down version of the PB10 Mid and IMO considerably better than the T10 Mid as its more stable. For me, all racquets are a give and take and this one have no real weakness and plays bigger than the "mid" designation.

Great review! I totally agree.

You should post on Volkl threads more often, as your POV is insightful and you state it in a different way.
 
My London Tour ended up at 12.0oz strung with an overwrap and the stock damper installed. Balance felt pretty good and I was happy to see the scale read at least 12.0oz although my Redondo 98's end up at 12.5 and 12.7oz (not happy with my second Redondo being 12.7 because the 12.5 is perfect).
Anyway I have about 5-6 hours of doubles play on the racquet now but I have to admit that I have been a little ill the last two days (and played like a dying man) so my evaluation is far from complete. So far I have not been able to accelerate the racquet head like I can with my Redondo 98's which I confuses me - I must be in a weakend physical state at the moment. Also I couldn't resist installing the Becker hybrid at my standard tension 52lbs (gut in the mains) and although I'm very pleased with the quality of this hybrid I just can't seem to get the same zip and ferocity I get with Tour Bite 17. I probably need a redo on this first test so I'll stop blabbing.

I restrung my London Tour 93sq with a full poly (Pacific X Force 18 at 50lbs/47lbs) and the racquet came to life for me. The feel was comfortable and satisfying, spin was very good and I could really smack the forehand with confidense. Rain cut my testing short and a sholder injury has me just spinning the serves in but my game was very effective - quite happy with the racquet. I don't know if it will threaten my Redondo 98's but I can win matches with this racquet.

Regarding the X Force 18 string... it's clear orange and looks really sweet in the London Tour but I noticed that it got squeaky really fast - friction greatly increased between the mains and crosses after one set, so I expect it's performance to decline rapidly - we'll see.
 
Volkl gut is first class; Tonic+ is second class. Big difference. Volkl is stiffer than VS, Babolat's first class gut, but holds tension much better/longer. It plays snappier.

Interesting. Volkl Gut is one I have not tried. Is it made by Volkl or do they use Klip or Pacific? Kind of like how Wilson rebrands VS? Or perhaps I'm wrong about this all and everyone makes their own?

I find Pacific Tough to play crisper/firmer than VS, how would 'snappier' fall into the spectrum of [VS<---->Pacific]. In the middle or closer to Pacific?

Oh and back on topic, picked up a used London Tour this week, can't wait to compare it to my Prestiges & Pro Tour 280!
 
I have used the Volkl gut and Becker gut and the becker gut is less expensive and the quality, according to my stringer is much better than the Volkl gut. I have gone through 3 sets of Volkl gut and all 3 were dried out and 2 sets broke very quickly. I currently have 2 frames strung with becker gut and the tension retention and playability are still excellent after 3 weeks of play. Just my 2 cents. I like the BB gut better than VS gut. Plays crisper, but pockets the ball beautifully.
 
Volkl gut feels and plays just like Klip Legend. Not my cup of tea.

I actually prefer Tonic to Volkl ... although I pretty much stick to VS.
 
I restrung my London Tour 93sq with a full poly (Pacific X Force 18 at 50lbs/47lbs) and the racquet came to life for me. The feel was comfortable and satisfying, spin was very good and I could really smack the forehand with confidense. Rain cut my testing short and a sholder injury has me just spinning the serves in but my game was very effective - quite happy with the racquet. I don't know if it will threaten my Redondo 98's but I can win matches with this racquet.

Regarding the X Force 18 string... it's clear orange and looks really sweet in the London Tour but I noticed that it got squeaky really fast - friction greatly increased between the mains and crosses after one set, so I expect it's performance to decline rapidly - we'll see.

Even though it is 18x20, the stick is so soft, that a stiffer string type, like poly, plays really well in this frame--same concept as BITD when you strung older, fatigue stressed frames tighter, since, the stress made them softer. The stiffer string gives faster feedback to the hand in a flexible frame.
 
Interesting. Volkl Gut is one I have not tried. Is it made by Volkl or do they use Klip or Pacific? Kind of like how Wilson rebrands VS? Or perhaps I'm wrong about this all and everyone makes their own?

I find Pacific Tough to play crisper/firmer than VS, how would 'snappier' fall into the spectrum of [VS<---->Pacific]. In the middle or closer to Pacific?

Oh and back on topic, picked up a used London Tour this week, can't wait to compare it to my Prestiges & Pro Tour 280!

BB/Volkl gut is made by Klip. It is not identical to Klip Legend. The base material is, so it's the same quality, but the string is wound differently.
 
I have used the Volkl gut and Becker gut and the becker gut is less expensive and the quality, according to my stringer is much better than the Volkl gut. I have gone through 3 sets of Volkl gut and all 3 were dried out and 2 sets broke very quickly. I currently have 2 frames strung with becker gut and the tension retention and playability are still excellent after 3 weeks of play. Just my 2 cents. I like the BB gut better than VS gut. Plays crisper, but pockets the ball beautifully.

The dye makes a difference. Not in just in this string, but in all string. Strings which come in multiple colors, frequently play different as well. For instance, red may play snappier than green, or white plays dead. Players usually find the string which plays more to their liking and pick that color. V-Pro plays softer than Cyclone, specifically because of the dye--they are the same string. BB gut stays supple longer than Volkl gut, because of the dye. However, I know players who prefer drier gut, because it provides more feel, which is why many play with uncoated. Lastly, if you use gut, you should also use gut protection spray, or buy shellac, polyurethane, or lacquer spray. In a pinch, waterless hair spray works while out competing. Your gut will be less dry, fray less, and last longer.
 
Not that this is the place for string talk but I'm really happy with the quality of both the orange Becker and Yellow Volkl gut. I prefer them both over Pacific Classic and Bobolat Tonic.
 
Lastly, if you use gut, you should also use gut protection spray, or buy shellac, polyurethane, or lacquer spray. In a pinch, waterless hair spray works while out competing. Your gut will be less dry, fray less, and last longer.

I use Head gut (made by Pacific) and don't spray anything on it and it has never snapped or frayed on me before it's time to change it. It would last me easily 2 months of playing 4 times a week, but I change it once a month regardless. I think the Head gut has a light coating, but it's pretty durable out of the box. However, I do try to avoid getting it wet.
 
Hey I just got mine and will have them strung tomorrow.

Will string'm with my usual setup (Spin X @ 57) and we will see how it goes.

Boy, these frames look sexy!!

BT
 
I use Head gut (made by Pacific) and don't spray anything on it and it has never snapped or frayed on me before it's time to change it. It would last me easily 2 months of playing 4 times a week, but I change it once a month regardless. I think the Head gut has a light coating, but it's pretty durable out of the box. However, I do try to avoid getting it wet.

If it doesn't fray, that means that the coating is heavy. When I use gut, I only use uncoated for matches, and coated for practice, but I always chose gut with light coatings. VS is too heavy. Tonic is OK; that is what I used BITD when it was called AFV. It also played quick in my 75in2 frame, so I loved it on hard and indoors, but I used VS uncoated on clay for the feel. Coated string has far less feel. Sampras only used uncoated.
 
Is the BB and Volkl gut the same string except for the dyes? the BB gut feels different to the touch. Like it has a heavier coating. Who makes their guts, do you know? I am thinking it is klip. It looks and plays very simialr to legend.
 
If it doesn't fray, that means that the coating is heavy. When I use gut, I only use uncoated for matches, and coated for practice, but I always chose gut with light coatings. VS is too heavy. Tonic is OK; that is what I used BITD when it was called AFV. It also played quick in my 75in2 frame, so I loved it on hard and indoors, but I used VS uncoated on clay for the feel. Coated string has far less feel. Sampras only used uncoated.

Sampras didn't even like the feel of stencil ink on the strings, which is why his Wilson stencil was so light in color as he had minimal ink applied tp his strings...
 
Is the BB and Volkl gut the same string except for the dyes? the BB gut feels different to the touch. Like it has a heavier coating. Who makes their guts, do you know? I am thinking it is klip. It looks and plays very simialr to legend.

See Comments #181 and #182.
 
any news on the London Tour and how it compares to Head prestiges?

Review: Boris Becker London Tour

By Robert Martin

(October 3, 2011) Typically, when you think of a control racquet with a dense string pattern and a 93 square inch head size, the first thought goes to the Head Prestige line, but it turns out there are other options. The most recent release into this limited market share is the Boris Becker London Tour, which happens to be the most recent update to a discontinued Volkl frame that I actually used for a time, the Tour 10 V-Engine Mid.

With this in mind, the first thing I wanted to look for was the differences, and there were not many. At essentially the same weight, the two frames were nearly identical aside from frame itself. Of course the idea behind the V-Engine frame was to elongate the central main strings by using a V-shaped throat bridge.

The only other appreciable change is the thickness of the beam, which has been increased to a still-thin 20mm in width. While that pretty much sums up the external changes, this is a case where all the magic takes place on the inside.

For those that do not know, Boris Becker actually owns a fair percentage of Volkl, and so they share many of the same technology aspects, in this case, the DNX material that was developed in cooperation with the Fraunhofer Institute. In the case of Becker frames, these carbon nanotubes are taken to another level and arranged in a delta pattern for added strength and stability.

What does all this mean on the court for players looking for maximum control? Let’s find out.

Disclaimer: My current setup is the Yonex RDiS200 320g strung withYonex Tour Super 850 mains with Yonex Poly Tour Pro 125 crosses at 28/26kg. The London Tour was strung with the same setup.

Boris Becker London Tour:
Head Size: 93 square inches
Length: 27 inches
Weight: 11.5 ounces unstrung
String Pattern: 18 x 20

First Impressions: This is a good looking frame. A deep red color with black accents, one feature that I expected, and appreciate is the, what I will call the “Improved CAP Grommet.” It’s almost an extended bumper guard that goes towards the bottom of the head, protecting the sides of the frame from scratches, but does not have the pieces that cover the strings like the Head variation.

On Court: As cliché as it sounds, it is nearly impossible to look at a frame with these specs and not immediately try to compare it to the Prestige line. With that said, the London Tour offers plenty of directional control and a low powered response.

One of the unique things of Volkl and Becker frames is that they have a more extended head shape than normal, which has a negative impact on the stability of the frame. The addition of the Deltacore material at the sides of the head adds additional rigidity, making up for some of the stability loss.

As expected, baseline play is not this racquet’s strong suit. Between the narrow head shape and the less than optimal stability, I had some issues on the forehand side. I typically hit with a semi-western forehand and moderate spin, but found that the frame seemed better suited to a flatter style, so I began to transition towards a more classic eastern grip.

On the backhand side, I did not have as many issues, as I hit a fairly flat backhand with a compact swing to begin with. The low power level certainly did not make it easy to attack from that side, but control was excellent and I was able to set up the next shot with high success.


By far my favorite aspect of this racquet was its maneuverability and control at the net. Normally I prefer a more open pattern for touch shots, but I did not feel hindered by the 18x20 pattern of this one. There is nothing I would change about the way this racquet performs at net, so I definitely changed to a net-rushing style to get the best results.

Serving, one of the reasons I gave up my old Volkl in the first place. There is something about the Volkl head shape that makes it serve like a Wilson frame. By that I mean that the frame tends to have a large dead spot near the upper hoop, which is where I tend to contact my serves, leaving me wanting more pace. The added stability helped this problem, but it was still there, and very clearly evident in comparison to my current racquet.

I have to say that this was interesting to test. I can definitely feel the improvements over the Volkl I used back in 2005, and despite the specs, this played very differently from the Prestige. In my mind, the Prestige is capable of serving huge, and hits bigger ground strokes, but definitely sacrifices some touch and feel at the net compared to the London Tour.
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I'm right in there with this review, but I attribute the difference in Tour vs Prestige feel to head shape, and that the Prestige's heft is felt closer to 2/10, whereas the Tour's is closer to 4/8. The Prestige is more tip heavy, and you can feel it just by swinging it through the air. I received a text today from a 6.5 player who addressed this, as all of his Tours have 1/2 in lead tape covering the top 8 center mains. The frame is also built from the T10 Mid, not the T10 VE Mid.
 
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Got to hit with the London Tour 93 today, no mods just a Tournagrip over grip. I didn't get a chance to do any measurements, but the swing weight was not as light as I thought it would be as compared to my C10 Pros. Great feel and plow and I immediately noted better directional control over my shots. Played a set right off the bat and I pulled off some shots that I just could not do with the C10. Maybe its the fact that I grew up with wood racquets evolving into the old school graphite, but in any case I love the feel of this frame. The open string pattern and larger 98 head on the c10 was forcing me to hit with more top than I did in the past. This gives opponents more time to get to the ball, which is not a good thing for us middle age players. In the short time we hit, I noticed the ability to whip through shots with confidence that the ball will stay in the court. This ability to hit full force and flatter shots with confidence is something I haven't experienced in quite some time. Not being super tech savvy with racquets, the best description I can give to this frame is "old school, with a shot of technology adrenalin". I am thinking a
racquet switch may be coming !
 
Got to hit with the London Tour 93 today, no mods just a Tournagrip over grip. I didn't get a chance to do any measurements, but the swing weight was not as light as I thought it would be as compared to my C10 Pros. Great feel and plow and I immediately noted better directional control over my shots. Played a set right off the bat and I pulled off some shots that I just could not do with the C10. Maybe its the fact that I grew up with wood racquets evolving into the old school graphite, but in any case I love the feel of this frame. The open string pattern and larger 98 head on the c10 was forcing me to hit with more top than I did in the past. This gives opponents more time to get to the ball, which is not a good thing for us middle age players. In the short time we hit, I noticed the ability to whip through shots with confidence that the ball will stay in the court. This ability to hit full force and flatter shots with confidence is something I haven't experienced in quite some time. Not being super tech savvy with racquets, the best description I can give to this frame is "old school, with a shot of technology adrenalin". I am thinking a
racquet switch may be coming !

If you hit through the ball, you will definitely prefer the Tour to the C10 Pro. It also hits a far heavier ball. And your right, it really has an old school graphite feel. Another poster said that it feels a lot like Lendl's old frame, and I concur.
 
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Babolat VS Touch Black 16g @ 57 lbs
Power Pads and HEAD leather grip

I have not played with it yet. I will get a chance this weekend.
 
Hey friends
My Q about full poly specs for this frame. Should i go lower tension
like 47/44? Want to try Gosen Polylon Comfort 17.
Or better to hybrid it with OG micro crosses or NRG2 47/50
 
Hey friends
My Q about full poly specs for this frame. Should i go lower tension
like 47/44? Want to try Gosen Polylon Comfort 17.
Or better to hybrid it with OG micro crosses or NRG2 47/50

I'm accustomed to fairly tight tensions, but in these DNX/DC frames, you need to come down a little. Less with DC, but you still need to come down. I string my Tour at 60M/56.5C with Gripper 16L. It is softer than the PB 10 Mid, which many 4.0-5.5 players have been stringing with soft co-poly at 40M/37C or less, but due to the denser string bed, even though it is softer, I would recommend stringing around the same tension for the Tour with a CP machine, as the two frames match-up well(the 18x20 compensates for the softer frame). 43M/40C could be an alternately good start.
 
Is anyone still using this racket. Any observations over the long haul?
I find myself gravitating at times toward the London Tour & Prestige YTIG
Mid-plus depending on how frankly I feel on a given day.
Has anyone able to mod the racket(BB) to overcome the deadness of the upper hoop.
 
Yes. I've been using it for the past three months.

Observations. Rock solid. Pretty forgiving. Very maneuverable at the net: my reaction volleys in doubles have been much improved with these sticks. Easy to bring through the contact zone quickly. I've had zero trouble finding the sweetspot. I hit better with it than with the Dunlop 200 or 100 series racquets in pretty much all areas of the game.

For me, it's just a good fit stock. Mine came in a little over spec in terms of weight, because I asked for them that way when I had TW match them.

As for the deadness in the upper hoop, I've found it more of a useful tool, mostly at net, than a hindrance. To each his own.
 
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