gymrat76
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You got a love-hate relationship going on with your PT630s I guess
When you cheat on your usual partner, you are bound to receive some bad karma!
BB11 SE: your opinion?
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You got a love-hate relationship going on with your PT630s I guess
When you cheat on your usual partner, you are bound to receive some bad karma!
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Great review and what is more important, spot on!
Many of this i have already posted a long time ago, glad you feel the same though im a little surprised you can actually handle this beast, who are you Craig??
Thanks Ericsson! I had fun writing the review.
Sorry if I didn't catch your comments earlier. Sounds like we had a very similiar experience with the frame.As for who I am? Just a man, just a man...
Best,
CC
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
I appreciate the props, Sam-Stah! Best, CC
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Yep....the older you get, the more you'd better get used to bad days. But, those bad days just make the good ones even sweeter. I had a hit with a youngster Friday. We drilled indoors for a couple of hours. Toward the end of the hit, we really opened up. I was clocking the ball. I finally figured out that with my grip, I'm just not going to be a Nads. And I reinforced the notion that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a ball hit with moderate top and flatter trajectory. It does take time away from your opponent...
So true. Guys from our generation are not going to win trying to play big topspin, aggressive baseliner type tennis. We don't have the grips, stroke path, or mentality for it (at least not typically). I find I can still hang pretty well with the better juniors and other young 'uns simply by playing the way I play, period. In fact, it often times freaks the younger generation out to so much as even see someone at net.
CC
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
You got a love-hate relationship going on with your PT630s I guess
When you cheat on your usual partner, you are bound to receive some bad karma!
I think Michael loves, more than hates, his PT 630's.
CC
Pro_Tour_630
Legend
moderate top and flatter trajectory and coming to net seems to be the way to go with this KPS88,
anyway, the more LBS you put on that you can not get ride of the worse it is.
I do not hate my PT630, it is just that i like my first serves, OHBH DTL, ROS and volleys better with the KPS88, today none of that worked. We tend to go back to what is comfortable in the end. I am not giving up though few more setups and off to the outdoor season who knows might play better or worse
I did look at the angled cut just did not want to believe it:shock:, what was I thinking
ESP#1
Professional
Great review Craig, as always, we need to somehow consolidate all your racquet reviews. maybe ill save them to a folder and use them for reference
Sounds like a great stick, i think you like it more than the KPS 88, would you consider switching if you hadn't made the thread about sameness
Sounds like a great stick, i think you like it more than the KPS 88, would you consider switching if you hadn't made the thread about sameness
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Great review Craig, as always, we need to somehow consolidate all your racquet reviews. maybe ill save them to a folder and use them for reference
Sounds like a great stick, i think you like it more than the KPS 88, would you consider switching if you hadn't made the thread about sameness
Well I WAS a very big Boris Becker fan 'back in the day'.
And I certainly wouldn't let the "Sameness Thread" slow me down. After all we never said you shouldn't change AT ALL. Only that the range of alternatives would gradually narrow, and change itself come more slowly, as one advances in experience and level of play. CC
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Great review Craig, as always, we need to somehow consolidate all your racquet reviews. maybe ill save them to a folder and use them for reference
Sounds like a great stick, i think you like it more than the KPS 88, would you consider switching if you hadn't made the thread about sameness
And yes, I liked it a lot. I think it is probably less demanding to play than the KPS 88. CC
Very nice review CC! That's good to see that you liked it. I should be able to hit one soon and make up my own mind. I'll post my experience here as well! BTW, you played with the bb11 mid, and you said you liked it. What are the main differences between the two in play? I know they are not the same head size but I'd like to think they are some similarities (in terms of solidity, power, flex etc...). Thx.
ESP#1
Professional
Well I WAS a very big Boris Becker fan 'back in the day'.
Huge Becker fan myself, as a kid he was my idol, I suffered through alot of those agassi and sampras matches
i still remember that 5 setter against sampras on carpet
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
It's been a while since I hit the BB 11 Mid, but I can say that the 11 SE felt MUCH more 'substantial' (it should!) and noticeably more powerful in point play. The mid was more nimble at net. Actually, the first time I played tennis with Geoff I was demoing the 11 Mid, and I recall he commented that he felt both my groundstrokes and serve lacked 'weight' with it in comparison to my 'trusty' K90. Best, CC
In all fairness, the bb11Mid is a different type of racquet than the Wilsons you play and also the B11SE. and yours are also modified. the fair way to test this would be to lead up the b11Mid to mimic a k88 or SE for example as the swingweights vastly differ...that would def make a huge diff in hitting the 'heavy' ball. personally i think this quest for hitting the heavy ball is vastly overated in general, as it often comes at the expense of other more impt stuff.....I dont care if my aces are 'heavy' aces or my winners are 'heavy winners' and I can use my becker11Lights <w. some lead> well enough to get people on their horse on the dirt and i'm only a 5.0.
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Good point Mojo. They are indeed worlds apart in many ways.
Based on my conversations with him, I think Geoff uses the term 'heavy' (as do I) to describe the combination of pace/MPH and spin that tends to make an opponent uncomfortable. As you correctly point out, there are other ways to get folks out of their comfort zone, and runnin' 'em ragged is certainly a fine alternative.
Best,
CC
Bolt
Semi-Pro
Good point Mojo. They are indeed worlds apart in many ways.
Based on my conversations with him, I think Geoff uses the term 'heavy' (as do I) to describe the combination of pace/MPH and spin that tends to make an opponent uncomfortable. As you correctly point out, there are other ways to get folks out of their comfort zone, and runnin' 'em ragged is certainly a fine alternative.
Best,
CC
Or as you like to do (at least to me), run them ragged AND punish them with heavy balls.
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Or as you like to do (at least to me), run them ragged AND punish them with heavy balls.
I do what I can to contribute to your fitness quest. Best, CCOr as you like to do (at least to me), run them ragged AND punish them with heavy balls.
I played tennis for two hours yesterday morning and hiked 1 hour yesterday afternoon and today I feel completely fine. On the otherhand, I don't feel so fine after 1 hour hitting with Bolt, however, where every joint in the body aches for some pain killer/steroid injections.
I thought it was fine the 10 minutes I used it but I felt like I would have to make significant adjustments to get used to it, which I am not interested in right now since I am "grooved" with my current racket.
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
Yeah. I don't think I 'sugar-coated' it at all. This (like the KPS 88, and to a lesser degree, the K90) is a DEMANDING player's frame. I don't recommend it to folks who aren't used to the heft and higher SW. They probably wouldn't like it. Best, CC
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
sphinx780
Hall of Fame
Out of curiousity, I took one of my BB 11MP standards and leaded the sucker up and worked the balance board to get it as close to the SE specs as I could. Figured it'd be an interesting test to see how the added heft and SW adds up. I was at 378 SW at 3pts HL. Not to my surprise, it is a very demanding stick coming from the 338 sw of my current setup.
What I saw instantly is if I was having a clean day (which are becoming rarer as I get older and have less time on the court) this setup would be a dream...but my timing is what can vary from day to day and if that's the case for someone it would take a lot of hours to be consistent with this added heft IMO. I think CC looked at the merits of the stick in the way the stick is meant to be used. If I had an SE to try, I would love to see what how a leaded/balanced standard compares...only in the hands of someone who's game fits this stick more than mine does.
So, now that I've had my fun I've upped my BB count to 5 for the long haul b/c there is nothing that feels more comfortable for me day in and day out. Time to bring the sameness and raise some hell on the court.
What I saw instantly is if I was having a clean day (which are becoming rarer as I get older and have less time on the court) this setup would be a dream...but my timing is what can vary from day to day and if that's the case for someone it would take a lot of hours to be consistent with this added heft IMO. I think CC looked at the merits of the stick in the way the stick is meant to be used. If I had an SE to try, I would love to see what how a leaded/balanced standard compares...only in the hands of someone who's game fits this stick more than mine does.
So, now that I've had my fun I've upped my BB count to 5 for the long haul b/c there is nothing that feels more comfortable for me day in and day out. Time to bring the sameness and raise some hell on the court.
Hi Craig
Appreciate the review, thanks.
My favourite SW is about 360. All of of recent sticks have been leaded to that .SRD Tour 90, SRD Tour 95, RQiS Tour1, and recently the KPS88.
All of these get too heavy in total weight, when you get above 360 SW, so I haven't ventured into that rarified atmosphere, even just to experiment.
You make reference to your current KPS88. Is it std or modded?
Mine is 375gm 361SW 4.5pts HL Gut main, Bigace X.
I am interested to try a high SW stick that is under 360grams. It will amuse me, if nothing else, to have a racquet that I don't add lead to.
Ciao
Stuart
Appreciate the review, thanks.
My favourite SW is about 360. All of of recent sticks have been leaded to that .SRD Tour 90, SRD Tour 95, RQiS Tour1, and recently the KPS88.
All of these get too heavy in total weight, when you get above 360 SW, so I haven't ventured into that rarified atmosphere, even just to experiment.
You make reference to your current KPS88. Is it std or modded?
Mine is 375gm 361SW 4.5pts HL Gut main, Bigace X.
I am interested to try a high SW stick that is under 360grams. It will amuse me, if nothing else, to have a racquet that I don't add lead to.
Ciao
Stuart
BounceHitBounceHit
Legend
My KPS 88 is 363 grams, just under 8 pts HL, 344 SW. This is 'stock' with the exception that I remove the grip and put lead around the handle to 'counter' the lost weight of the leather. I've come to elect to concentrate MOST of the lead around the butt-cap, shifting the balance point just a smidgeon and making the frame more 'polarized'. Best, CC
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