Beating Nadal at Roland Garros = the gr8est feat in tennis = RG is the biggest slam

Nadal was also caught up in the divorce of his parents in 2009, which was coupled with his knee injury.

Like I said, Nadal played an exhibition match at Wimbledon to 'test the knee' (the knee which had dominated most of 2009 to that point). When he successfully completed that match he then made the excuse that he was withdrawing 'because he wasn't at 100%'. That's the same as admitting that he could have played. It was obvious he was fit enough. He just wasn't there mentally. His parents separating was not enough to skip Roland Garros, but it was enough to skip Wimbledon. Either that or losing Roland Garros was too much to deal with.
 
Hello, Multiple Accounts King!

So, if beating RNadal at RG is the greatest feat in tennis, then beating the guy who conquered Nads there must necessarily rank as our sport's supremest accomplishment.

Multiple account? I notice you haven't named the so-called multiple account. Because you are all talk and no knowledge.

And there is no logic in what you just said. Everybody knows that the player who upsets the champion rarely wins the title. In 2010 Roland Garros, it was the other way around, Soderling beat Federer and lost to Nadal.
 
Multiple account? I notice you haven't named the so-called multiple account. Because you are all talk and no knowledge.

And there is no logic in what you just said. Everybody knows that the player who upsets the champion rarely wins the title. In 2010 Roland Garros, it was the other way around, Soderling beat Federer and lost to Nadal.

Yep, spoken just like Multiple Accounts King!

You really ought to cover your tracks better. Just sayin' ;)
 
Yep, spoken just like Multiple Accounts King!

You really ought to cover your tracks better. Just sayin' ;)

I like your username, reminds me of someone who got smashed in 08.

In fact, one of the multiple accounts you speak of contains the very score of that match!

Hahahaha too funny :lol:
 
I like your username, reminds me of someone who got smashed in 08.

In fact, one of the multiple accounts you speak of contains the very score of that match!

Hahahaha too funny :lol:

Tsonga smashed Nadal 6-2, 6-3, 6-2 in 2008 AO
 
Tsonga smashed Nadal 6-2, 6-3, 6-2 in 2008 AO

I remember that match well!

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If the surfaces hadn't been slowed down in the late 90s/early 2000s, imo Ali would probably now be a multiple slam champ.

Great player, and from what I understand, a great guy too.
 
Yeah, Nadal wanted to win Wimbledon, but once he did in 2008, it was all about Roland Garros. Nadal skipped Wimbledon in 2009, because he was so heartbroken over his Roland Garros loss. I saw him play an exhibition match just before he withdrew from Wimbledon. He definitely was fit enough to play. He just didn't feel like it.

Think about what would have happened if Nadal lost 2013 Roland Garros. Now look at Nadal's reaction to losing 2013 Wimbledon :lol:

Winning Roland Garros is ESSENTIAL to Nadal. Wimbledon, he can take it or leave it.

It is all about RG, because that is his forte, not because his views on what is the most important title in the tennis world have changed. At least until he says otherwise his words are still valid.

Your assessment of why and how Nadal was influenced by his losses are just that: your opinion.

I can point out to facts, that speak about him being hurt because of his failures to win Wimbledon.

As far as I remember he said that he cried in the locker room after one of his losses to Federer at Wimbledon.

Looked really miserable at the trophy ceremony in 2011.

Took a looong vacation after his loss to Rosol.

All signs, that he values very highly the tournament.
 
You aren't listening Tennis Hands. Nadal cried in the lockerrom after losing to Federer because he had NEVER won Wimbledon (after losing in 2006 final and 2007 final). That is the whole point. Nadal valued Wimbledon until he won it. After he won it, it was skippable.

Nadal could easily have played Wimbledon in 2009. We all saw him play the exhibition match a couple of days before Day One of Wimbledon. He wasn't limping. He was moving to every ball and was competitive. He clearly had lost motivation to play Wimbledon in 2009, because he lost at Roland Garros.

And in 2012 he didn't play after Wimbledon, because Uncle Toni announced that from now on they won't be using 'band aid' solutions for his injuries. At Roland Garros 2012 they made Nadal numb his knee just to play the semis and final. That is a 'band aid' solution. Also at Halle, we saw the injection mark on his knee. Band aid solution. The team had made a promise to look for long-term solutions (rest). That is why he took the 7 months away from the game.

And in 2013, after losing at Wimbledon (and putting in minimal effort once it was clear the grass was slippery), Uncle Toni questioned Nadal's motivation-

“For me, what failed him most was his attitude. It is because of this we lost,” Toni said. “He didn’t face up to the game well. After a break of seven months, returning with many doubts, making a great effort and everything going very well, I think Rafa dropped his intensity a little.”
 
Winning Wimbledon is the biggest achievement. Than the US Open. RG comes 3rd. Than the Aussie Open.

Sadly, while Wimbledon is considered the pinnacle, the lack of grass court events don't necessarily give it much street cred.

If it had street cred, then some clay courter wouldn't have made it to 5 finals, winning 2 after winning the RG GS, when he pretty much blows chunks on grass.
 
You aren't listening Tennis Hands. Nadal cried in the lockerrom after losing to Federer because he had NEVER won Wimbledon (after losing in 2006 final and 2007 final). That is the whole point. Nadal valued Wimbledon until he won it. After he won it, it was skippable.

You have very strange perceptions of why people value things.

Why would Nadal's views on what he values the most change with a win?

I suppose he didn't see it as the most desirable OVER ALL OTHER TOURNAMENTS because of the nice fat check, that he would receive, or because he has a fetish for Wimbledon trophies.

Nadal could easily have played Wimbledon in 2009. We all saw him play the exhibition match a couple of days before Day One of Wimbledon. He wasn't limping. He was moving to every ball and was competitive. He clearly had lost motivation to play Wimbledon in 2009, because he lost at Roland Garros.

We agree, that Nadal didn't have any serious injury, preventing him to play at Wimbledon 2009.

And in 2012 he didn't play after Wimbledon, because Uncle Toni announced that from now on they won't be using 'band aid' solutions for his injuries. At Roland Garros 2012 they made Nadal numb his knee just to play the semis and final. That is a 'band aid' solution. Also at Halle, we saw the injection mark on his knee. Band aid solution. The team had made a promise to look for long-term solutions (rest). That is why he took the 7 months away from the game.

This is where your theory is lacking in logic.

Let us put it this way.

Nadal did play at Wimbledon 2012.

If anything, that goes against your theory, that the significance of the tournament has faded in his eyes. In fact, it is a proof for the opposite. If we presume, that Nadal's knees were in such dire state, that he needed such a long vacation, it only shows how important Wimbledon is for him that he decidet to play anyway.

But, I am just entertaining a possibility, a hypothetical, since I don' t believe that Nadal had issues with his knees at the time of Rosol's loss. I have watched that match several times and nothing in his movement or behaviour showed, that he has such an extreme problem. He was playing his usual style, which is unusual, if you are trying to not ruin your aching knees. He certainly can play agressive and shorten points, if need be and he didn't do that.

And in 2013, after losing at Wimbledon (and putting in minimal effort once it was clear the grass was slippery), Uncle Toni questioned Nadal's motivation-

“For me, what failed him most was his attitude. It is because of this we lost,” Toni said. “He didn’t face up to the game well. After a break of seven months, returning with many doubts, making a great effort and everything going very well, I think Rafa dropped his intensity a little.”

Yeah, a loss of motivation is not unusual, but why link it to a specific tournament?

Are you saying, that he didn't motivate himself enough, because it is "only" Wimbledon?

I refuse to believe that that is the case. It would be extremely unprofessional.

If the issue is motivational it is something, that cannot be related to Wimbledon as a tournament.
 
Has any male destroyed an opponent like Nadal did to Fed in RG 2008 in a grand slam?

2011 plus AO 2012, Nadal was destroyed in three slams plus four masters on ALL surfaces by his no 2 rival. This record will go down tennis history unbroken for many, many decades if ever as the most complete, utterly inconceivable, ownage of one all time great, at his PEAK, by his then less accomplished rival.

On his best surface, 30 year old Fed gave Nadal a bagel. So people, get some perspective.
 
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