Been working on my forehand lately, any tips or opinions? thanks :)

[Numero Uno]

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[dimkin]

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me likey

 

[kiteboard]

Take it all the way back, pointing the butt handle at the back fence, and plant sideways for more upper torso coil.

 

[jm1980]

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So much racquet twirling

 

[Numero Uno]

So much racquet twirling

haha yeah, a friend told me that just few weeks ago, i wasnt really aware of that, gonna take some time to get rid of twirling xD

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[Lukhas]

haha yeah, a friend told me that just few weeks ago, i wasnt really aware of that, gonna take some time to get rid of twirling xD

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[Doc Hollidae]

- No unit turn and no coiling/loading
- You need to incorporate your lower body more
- You swing is mostly arm based
- Without seeing where the ball is landing, it makes it hard to see how much net clearance you are getting or depth.
- You might benefit from brushing up on the ball a little more, but not sure since I can't see where the balls are landing or how they are bouncing.

 

[jm1980]

haha yeah, a friend told me that just few weeks ago, i wasnt really aware of that, gonna take some time to get rid of twirling xD

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A lot of people do it, as long as it's not negatively affecting your preparation, I wouldn't worry too much about it

 

[NTRPolice]

All of those swings looked good to me except for the last one, which probably went like 10 ft. long. lol

When you try to hit an inside-in forehand, you have to be careful when trying to flatten it out like you did in the last shot. It looks like you hit the ball long DTM, but you were trying to hit it flat to the deuce corner of the court. You started with a neutral stance, which is perfect for that shot, but it looks like you rotated too soon trying to get maximum racket head speed to finish the rally. This lead to crowding. This lead to being late. You either need to rotate super early and take the ball way in front of you (lots of space), or you need to lag the rotation and lead with the arm to make sure your racket is not late even if you crowd the swing due to the opponents spin or w/e.

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

I see unit turn and coiling/unloading. Could there be more? Sure. But I think the basic stroke is sound.

You do appear to be hitting fairly low without a lot of lift: as Doc wondered, how much clearance/depth are you getting? How consistent is the FH? If consistency is a problem, perhaps more TS and less drive would help.

 

[TCF]

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[Limpinhitter]

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Nice looking forehand! I usually recommend a more consistent open stance (about 45 degrees to the target), than what you are using in this video. But, in your case, I wouldn't change a thing. You are getting excellent hip drive and upper body rotation with the stance you are using. Although, I would like to see the ball flight.

 

[coupergear]

Definitely kill the twirling

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[NuBas]

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Can I actually ask you for advice instead? How do you get that racquet face to accelerate so fast and maintain a steady racquet face angle? Is your forehand grip really firm/trying to hold an L shape with your arm and racquet?

Also what do you think about when hitting your forehand, that is when you are having an off day, since I know you don't really think about your shots and you just do it out of muscle memory but tell me what you tell yourself when you're having a really bad day and shots are not going in.

 

[NuBas]

What I can add to critique is that I see your racquet head isn't really below the ball before contact, although you have great follow through, when I watch it in slow motion it looks like pushing the ball. Also its kind of dangerous with that ball so close to your feet .

 

[Numero Uno]

Can I actually ask you for advice instead? How do you get that racquet face to accelerate so fast and maintain a steady racquet face angle? Is your forehand grip really firm/trying to hold an L shape with your arm and racquet?

Also what do you think about when hitting your forehand, that is when you are having an off day, since I know you don't really think about your shots and you just do it out of muscle memory but tell me what you tell yourself when you're having a really bad day and shots are not going in.

hah i believe there is no magical shortcut to having a good, stable shots, just thousands and thousands of shots, repeating until it gets stuck in your muscle memory as you say i wouldn't say its too firm, maybe just sometimes when its not my day, but usually the wrist is firm but arm should be relaxed sorry for my English

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[Numero Uno]

Can I actually ask you for advice instead? How do you get that racquet face to accelerate so fast and maintain a steady racquet face angle? Is your forehand grip really firm/trying to hold an L shape with your arm and racquet?

Also what do you think about when hitting your forehand, that is when you are having an off day, since I know you don't really think about your shots and you just do it out of muscle memory but tell me what you tell yourself when you're having a really bad day and shots are not going in.

and for the other question, im kinda extremely focused on the ball, maybe even too much, ALWAYS watching the ball...i usually play with players that are better than me in my club, so when i have a bad day, there is pretty much nothing that i can say to myself that can help haha i need to be at 100% to beat them, otherwise im done

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[Numero Uno]

What I can add to critique is that I see your racquet head isn't really below the ball before contact, although you have great follow through, when I watch it in slow motion it looks like pushing the ball. Also its kind of dangerous with that ball so close to your feet .

well i was so much focused on looking the ball that im hitting, i didn't even notice that ball near my feet

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[Numero Uno]

Numero Uno, that is a tremendous forehand. Are you getting good results with it? I can not imagine that you are not, its sweet.

Please, please, 100000 times please....do NOT follow the advice given on one post in your thread. I hate like heck to point out anyone and thats why I did not quote the post I am referring too. I am sure you can figure it out. But for goodness sakes DO NOT make the changes that were recommended. Keep your forehand take back and stance just like it is.

Now if you are having in match issues with it, please let us know what they are and we can help. But if its working well for you, keep it just the way it is. Great video!

good advice, not to take advices im not taking serious advices i get here, simply because i dont know who is giving them, but racquet twirling definitely is unnecessary movement, and when i play against some players here at my club, theor shots go well over 100km/h, i think that my racquet twirling can hurt my timing little bit

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[Gyswandir]

The only fundamental problem I see is the inconsistent contact point due to slow footwork (getting into position/loading early enough) leading to lack of balance and a lot of Blackfoot hitting

 

[TCF]

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[MathGeek]

I'm not sure what to make of the racquet spin.

I wonder if it's taking your mind off your footwork which should be your focus when you are spinning the racquet.

Sure at some point, you can learn to walk and chew bubble gum, but get more intentional about your feet.

Your rhythm might work for you against a player with traditional ground strokes, but as a pusher, I see an opening to disrupt it and throw you off.

The footwork and the rhythm are the things I would challenge if we played.

 

[madshasta]

Very impressed. I hope to be there someday. The only critique I would chime in on would be to not hit on the back foot so often. Keep up the good work dude.

 

[xFullCourtTenniSx]

It's fine. Just work on endurance and footwork so you're always there on time. And by footwork, I don't mean anything massive, just the ability to consistently and as quickly as possible get to the right position. In terms of position, there are very minute changes (half a step maybe) on a few of them where you misjudged the shot, which can be fixed with more hitting or more focus. Speed can always be improved though, unless you're over the hill. Mechanically though, the shot is solid.

 

[FuzzyYellowBalls41]

Good forehand. Reminds me of how I hit mine as well. Semi western grip plus fast racquet head speed with some windshield wiper thrown in. Those 3 things make a consistent, spinny and hard hit ball for sure.

 

[Deleted member 23235]

seems pretty solid.
maybe sometimes you pull your head up to follow the ball.
maybe show some footage where you're under pressure? all these balls look like they land at the service line and at you (ie. give you alot of time to prep).

 

[geca]

sweet FH... maybe nitpicking here and not really even your problem... all these incoming balls except one landed outside of the camera frame, which means they were short balls... you hit off the back foot on the only deep ball.

 

[Numero Uno]

Ha, I hear you. If it was one of our juniors who played tournaments vs hard hitters, yup, I would say lose the twirl because it takes away some time! This is simple, if something works for you, keep it. If it does not improve your results, lose it. If the twirl helps you relax overall, great...but like you said it is not helpful vs better players, so lose it.

Thats why some advice givers here bother me. They see a video and give flat out advice such as turn this way more or do this with your take back. Thats nonsense. You have to see the results a player gets before changing something.

I do not know you, but I suspect you have a great forehand and improving tennis game because you listen. You take advice when it leads to better results. Such as the twirl. Some posters would bristle and say, I have a great forehand and my twirl is part of it, how dare you mention it. But you actually say, yup, I know in certain circumstances the twirl may take too much time.

When I get a student with your attitude...confident on what works for them, but willing to be open minded to what needs work....I know that student will have a great chance of becoming the best player they can be. Again, great forehand and great attitude.

thanks for these words! you sound like very reasonable person i agree that if something works for you just keep it. people think that everybody should use rogers technique for forehand for example, bjt the truth is that you can hit one shot in so many different ways. just look nadals forehand, follow through around his head, falling on his back, but that forehand won him 14 slams you can jave 2 players thay use same open stance for example, drop racquet under the ball, finish over the shoulder, bend knees nicely and still their shots can lool completely different, thats the real beauty of tennis

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[Numero Uno]

Good forehand. Reminds me of how I hit mine as well. Semi western grip plus fast racquet head speed with some windshield wiper thrown in. Those 3 things make a consistent, spinny and hard hit ball for sure.

thanks! sounds very simple when you put it like that

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[Numero Uno]

I'm not sure what to make of the racquet spin.

I wonder if it's taking your mind off your footwork which should be your focus when you are spinning the racquet.

Sure at some point, you can learn to walk and chew bubble gum, but get more intentional about your feet.

Your rhythm might work for you against a player with traditional ground strokes, but as a pusher, I see an opening to disrupt it and throw you off.

The footwork and the rhythm are the things I would challenge if we played.

gotta say i would love to play you then

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[Numero Uno]

I see unit turn and coiling/unloading. Could there be more? Sure. But I think the basic stroke is sound.

You do appear to be hitting fairly low without a lot of lift: as Doc wondered, how much clearance/depth are you getting? How consistent is the FH? If consistency is a problem, perhaps more TS and less drive would help.

i do hit pretty flat,especially when im in a good mood.. if i notice than balls go too much in the net i add more spin, but i prefer hitting flater forehand and more spiny one handed backhand

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[Dartagnan64]

Looks good but it's really hard to comment when you can't see where the ball is going or how high over the net. Anyone can swing reasonably nicely if he wants. But can you make the ball do what you want consistently. If not, then footwork and maintaining your eye on the contact point longer would probably be what you should work on. Your swing otherwise has the basics down.
Of course if depth and power and more topspin are what you are missing then you need to work on a bunch of things like involving the hips early, bit more racket lag, bigger separation between shoulder turn and leg turn to increase coiling, etc. That's probably a lot harder and only necessary if your consistency is where you want it to be.

I play against some people that can hit he bejeesus out of the ball but can't put it in the court consistenly to save their lives. They think that just hitting over and over again will fix that. But you need proper mechanics to hit it where you want it just as you need proper mechanics to hit it hard.

 

[Numero Uno]

Looks good but it's really hard to comment when you can't see where the ball is going or how high over the net. Anyone can swing reasonably nicely if he wants. But can you make the ball do what you want consistently. If not, then footwork and maintaining your eye on the contact point longer would probably be what you should work on. Your swing otherwise has the basics down.
Of course if depth and power and more topspin are what you are missing then you need to work on a bunch of things like involving the hips early, bit more racket lag, bigger separation between shoulder turn and leg turn to increase coiling, etc. That's probably a lot harder and only necessary if your consistency is where you want it to be.

I play against some people that can hit he bejeesus out of the ball but can't put it in the court consistenly to save their lives. They think that just hitting over and over again will fix that. But you need proper mechanics to hit it where you want it just as you need proper mechanics to hit it hard.

i hit pretty flat forehands, using topspin only to open the angles... pretty satisfied with forehand, but you can always improve

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[dr325i]

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Nice! Where are you?

 

[Numero Uno]

Nice! Where are you?

Thanks! Serbia, you?

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[thizbit]

- No unit turn and no coiling/loading
- You need to incorporate your lower body more
- You swing is mostly arm based
- Without seeing where the ball is landing, it makes it hard to see how much net clearance you are getting or depth.
- You might benefit from brushing up on the ball a little more, but not sure since I can't see where the balls are landing or how they are bouncing.

I'm trying to understand how you're not seeing a unit turn and coiling. This forum is ridiculous at times.

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[SafinSucks]

Looking nice, I agree with some posters above regarding your footwork, but maybe it was at the start of the day? More little steps will help your precision. Good luck, looks really good already. You have a good arm.

 

[Numero Uno]

Looking nice, I agree with some posters above regarding your footwork, but maybe it was at the start of the day? More little steps will help your precision. Good luck, looks really good already. You have a good arm.

thanks! i forgot to mention that i have a problem with my right knee, i can bend it just a little, and it effects me on certain shots...

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[dr325i]

Thanks! Serbia, you?

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Texas, ali cu biti u BG 4, 5, 6 novembra ako hoces da udarimo

 

[Gazelle]

Good stuff. Don't know why the first comment said you had no unit turn, you clearly coil.

 

[Numero Uno]

Texas, ali cu biti u BG 4, 5, 6 novembra ako hoces da udarimo

otkud u texas? work and travel? moze dogovoricemo se... treniras?

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[Numero Uno]

Good stuff. Don't know why the first comment said you had no unit turn, you clearly coil.

thanks! well the guy was probably comparing my forehand to djokovics for example

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[Numero Uno]

first 3 points I mean what are you watching? point 4 is valid and then you give a point 5 that you actually then say yourself makes no sense because of point 4?

I mean some positive vibes wouldnt go a miss either - its a bloody good forehand

thanks for defending me hah

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[tennis tom]

Looks pretty good.

 

[Power Player]

I'm trying to understand how you're not seeing a unit turn and coiling. This forum is ridiculous at times.

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Thanks, I was thinking the same.

 

[Dartagnan64]

i hit pretty flat forehands, using topspin only to open the angles... pretty satisfied with forehand, but you can always improve

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True but if you are hitting a strong forehand, then I'd suggest your game will advance more by fixing weaknesses. Or working harder on the 2 most important shots in tennis: Serve and RoS. The number of times you hit a perfectly set up forehand in a rally is actually quite small. Every rally starts with a serve and RoS. Thereafter it's a lot of running around hitting off imperfect platforms with imperfect form.

Fitness, Serve, RoS in that order will move your game substantially more forward then getting a slight bit more pace on your forehand.