Before SABR, there was...

Which move is the best?

  • Sneak Attack by Roger

    Votes: 3 14.3%
  • Fake Attack by Roger

    Votes: 3 14.3%
  • Snake Attack by Roger

    Votes: 1 4.8%
  • Food Attack by Sureshs

    Votes: 14 66.7%

  • Total voters
    21
#5
What!? Players do this all the time: think about moving in, but realizing their shot was not good enough and stepping back.

It's also evident Murray didn't think Fed was moving forward, because he sliced the ball back. Pros wouldn't attempt to hit a slice as a passing shot.
 
#6
What!? Players do this all the time: think about moving in, but realizing their shot was not good enough and stepping back.

It's also evident Murray didn't think Fed was moving forward, because he sliced the ball back. Pros wouldn't attempt to hit a slice as a passing shot.
Yeah, no weight shift to speak of. Also, John McEnroe didn't seem to think so.
 
#7
What!? Players do this all the time: think about moving in, but realizing their shot was not good enough and stepping back.

It's also evident Murray didn't think Fed was moving forward, because he sliced the ball back. Pros wouldn't attempt to hit a slice as a passing shot.
I wholeheartedly disagree on all acocunts. I've seen Federer countless times changing his mind last second and not coming in. This was different. He tried to make noise not just with one step but with both feet. This was a split second decision by Roger yes, but deliberately executed. It threw Murray off completely. The Scot was already going to slice the ball, but it's possible he thought 'What the ****! Is Roger actually moving in now?' I see no other reason why Murray missed that shot long by that much. And John McEnroe did think Roger tried to outfox Murray there...he says so in the freaking video lmao
 
#8
What!? Players do this all the time: think about moving in, but realizing their shot was not good enough and stepping back.

It's also evident Murray didn't think Fed was moving forward, because he sliced the ball back. Pros wouldn't attempt to hit a slice as a passing shot.
Speaking just of slice passing shots: Hewitt and Federer have done it multiple times throughout their respective careers. Other players as well. I know it's not common, but it does happen.
 
#22
Made the correction for you but we all know if Nadal would of came up with this idea/media creation you wouldn't say diddly squat about it :D
the only player that such has been done for is Federer (on the mens side), confirming his entrenched establishment status and general media bias in favor of.
 
#24
SABR is one of the stupidest media creations this decade.
Not really. It was not the media that came up with this acronym. It was someone on RF's coaching staff. The move itself was a bold & innovative one of the part of RF. While the move has been done at much lower levels of play against weak servers, TMK no one had previously dared to attempt this at the pro level against high level servers. And no, it is not the same thing as chip and charge.
 
#25
^ It might have been RF's coach, Severin Luthi, who came up with the acronym. After seeing him use it while fooling around in practices, Severin encouraged Roger to try the tactic in actual matches.
 
#26
Not really. It was not the media that came up with this acronym. It was someone on RF's coaching staff. The move itself was a bold & innovative one of the part of RF. While the move has been done at much lower levels of play against weak servers, TMK no one had previously dared to attempt this at the pro level against high level servers. And no, it is not the same thing as chip and charge.
Federer's team can do what they want, part of their job is to promote their guy. But for the tennis media to embrace it so whole heartedly was ignorant and tasteless, and showed a clear lack of integrity.
 
#27
did the media come up with that designation? don't think so.

anyway, Nadal's name would not have been ensconced in the acronym. it would have been the same for anyone who accomplished such.
Yes, media was behind that... and nope, you wont say the same if Nadal would be the name here and not Federer. Sorry to tell you that mate
 
#28
Federer's team can do what they want, part of their job is to promote their guy. But for the tennis media to embrace it so whole heartedly was ignorant and tasteless, and showed a clear lack of integrity.
Sour grapes? Lighten up. Most of us found it refreshing/entertaining. Novak & Boris OTOH were not amused.
 
#32
Oh, so it was. Had not realized this.



Common tactic when faking a poach in doubs. Why is it not ok for a singles player to do this.

Tennis players can learn a lot about deception from badminton players. It's an art form.
Because tennis has rules that should be upheld. This is akin to the racquet hitting the court surface in between shots. It has no place in the game imo.
 
#36
Cool, & edgy, but nothing new. Johnny Mac did it. Maybe less noisily. But I definitely remember wanting to copy his fake approach, stay back, then go ahead and approach. I was never quick enough for it to come off well against a truly good passer.
 
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