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Often we see people say that Murray is an ATG, we won 3 slams in the era of Big 3, so he must be great and does not need 6 slams to be called an ATG ? ...
but then we are looking at this all wrong, it was never about 6 slams, it was more than 6 slams.... it was about impact of a player to society and tennis. It is about how that player took tennis a bit forward and stood out in his era as a special player.
Lets look at each player who is known as an ATG and see how they added something to tennis/stood out, then lets ask ourselves what Murray has done.
Player number 1 - Federer - Champion strokemaker like never seen before, the man who raised the level of Tennis in the 2000s and popularized it again after the slight snoozefest of the snv era of the 1990s had lost a lot of fans....
Player number 2 - Djokovic - Great flexibility, stamina like never seen before and also known for his mental toughness against hostile crowds. Rally Tolerance also like never seen before or since.... clear attributes that Djokovic added to tennis, no matter how much we bash him, these are true too.
Player number 3 - Nadal - Scintillating athleticism, changed the way topspin affected tennis, rendered 1 handed backhand useless. Fighting spirit like never seen before by playing every point like it is his last. His record of 14 French Opens is probably the only true exceptional record that we have seen in our lifetimes, everything else we saw was not that special.
Player number 4 - Sampras - The King of Swing, he was the undisputed king of the big serve and volleying in the 1990s. He was an upgrade to everyone before him and was the reason why they had to slow down courts. He was the ultimate Alpha of his era.
Player number 5 -. Lendl - First ATG to make fitness really important in tennis and emphasising on professional preparation. People Like Mcenroe and Borg used to party all night but Lendl used to lead a disciplined life always.
Player number 6 - Connors - 1st ATG of the open era, tenacious aggressive baseline game, in a serve and volleying era he played from the back of the baseline. Ability to get the crowd involved behind him, versatile across various surfaces.
Player number 7 - Borg - Popularized Tennis, introduced heavy topspin on his forehand and backhand, paving the way for future greats like Nadal to learn his way. It is rumoured that Uncle Toni read Borg's book and got ideas on weaponizing the top spin forehand for his nephew.
Player number 8 - John Mcenroe - Incredible hand eye co-ordination, formed the popular rivalry with Bjorn Borg which popularized Tennis more and gave it more coverage worldwide. His bad boy image along with Connors brought an attitude era to Tennis similar to the late 1990s in WWF/WWE like Austin and Shawn Michaels.
Player number 9 - Agassi - The first modern baseliner
Player number 10 - Becker - Weaponized Serve and introduced athletic power tennis as a teenager, forever a legend. Even in continents like Asia with less influence for Tennis Boris Becker was a popular name. We've also seen how he improved Djokovic's game as a coach ... the ultimate alpha coach I would say.
Player number 11 - Edberg - Best volleyer ever, enough said
Player number 12 - Alcaraz - Modern era protoype of an athlete to include qualities of all of the Big 3 has in his way weaponized the drop shot with his game, breathe of fresh air after 90s gen stink for so long
Player number 13 - Wilander - master grinder, strategist, best practitioner of high percentage tennis ever until the modern baseline era began.
Player number 14 - Sinner - The new Robot built on Djokovic's game, he is a Djokovic 2.0 according to many, a relentless machine from the baseline. I would not say this is a clear upgrade to anything but surely he is also a product of the change we witnessed in tennis from Federer to Djokovic.
Now ask yourself ---->>>> Does Sir Andy Murray merit a mention as an ATG ? If yes then you need to tell what has he added to Tennis and how did he stand out in his era. This was never about a 6 slams cut off, it was beyond that.
I created this thread because every now and then we find Sir Murray mentioned as an ATG, but the real question is have we understood what the term " All Time Great " in tennis really means ????
but then we are looking at this all wrong, it was never about 6 slams, it was more than 6 slams.... it was about impact of a player to society and tennis. It is about how that player took tennis a bit forward and stood out in his era as a special player.
Lets look at each player who is known as an ATG and see how they added something to tennis/stood out, then lets ask ourselves what Murray has done.
Player number 1 - Federer - Champion strokemaker like never seen before, the man who raised the level of Tennis in the 2000s and popularized it again after the slight snoozefest of the snv era of the 1990s had lost a lot of fans....
Player number 2 - Djokovic - Great flexibility, stamina like never seen before and also known for his mental toughness against hostile crowds. Rally Tolerance also like never seen before or since.... clear attributes that Djokovic added to tennis, no matter how much we bash him, these are true too.
Player number 3 - Nadal - Scintillating athleticism, changed the way topspin affected tennis, rendered 1 handed backhand useless. Fighting spirit like never seen before by playing every point like it is his last. His record of 14 French Opens is probably the only true exceptional record that we have seen in our lifetimes, everything else we saw was not that special.
Player number 4 - Sampras - The King of Swing, he was the undisputed king of the big serve and volleying in the 1990s. He was an upgrade to everyone before him and was the reason why they had to slow down courts. He was the ultimate Alpha of his era.
Player number 5 -. Lendl - First ATG to make fitness really important in tennis and emphasising on professional preparation. People Like Mcenroe and Borg used to party all night but Lendl used to lead a disciplined life always.
Player number 6 - Connors - 1st ATG of the open era, tenacious aggressive baseline game, in a serve and volleying era he played from the back of the baseline. Ability to get the crowd involved behind him, versatile across various surfaces.
Player number 7 - Borg - Popularized Tennis, introduced heavy topspin on his forehand and backhand, paving the way for future greats like Nadal to learn his way. It is rumoured that Uncle Toni read Borg's book and got ideas on weaponizing the top spin forehand for his nephew.
Player number 8 - John Mcenroe - Incredible hand eye co-ordination, formed the popular rivalry with Bjorn Borg which popularized Tennis more and gave it more coverage worldwide. His bad boy image along with Connors brought an attitude era to Tennis similar to the late 1990s in WWF/WWE like Austin and Shawn Michaels.
Player number 9 - Agassi - The first modern baseliner
Player number 10 - Becker - Weaponized Serve and introduced athletic power tennis as a teenager, forever a legend. Even in continents like Asia with less influence for Tennis Boris Becker was a popular name. We've also seen how he improved Djokovic's game as a coach ... the ultimate alpha coach I would say.
Player number 11 - Edberg - Best volleyer ever, enough said
Player number 12 - Alcaraz - Modern era protoype of an athlete to include qualities of all of the Big 3 has in his way weaponized the drop shot with his game, breathe of fresh air after 90s gen stink for so long
Player number 13 - Wilander - master grinder, strategist, best practitioner of high percentage tennis ever until the modern baseline era began.
Player number 14 - Sinner - The new Robot built on Djokovic's game, he is a Djokovic 2.0 according to many, a relentless machine from the baseline. I would not say this is a clear upgrade to anything but surely he is also a product of the change we witnessed in tennis from Federer to Djokovic.
Now ask yourself ---->>>> Does Sir Andy Murray merit a mention as an ATG ? If yes then you need to tell what has he added to Tennis and how did he stand out in his era. This was never about a 6 slams cut off, it was beyond that.
I created this thread because every now and then we find Sir Murray mentioned as an ATG, but the real question is have we understood what the term " All Time Great " in tennis really means ????
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