Ben Shelton Press Conference | 2023 US Open Semifinal

[BeatlesFan]

What do you do? Are you the best at what you do? Are you or your folks pathetic human beings because they don’t understand the pain of being second best?

Such a lame and pitifully weak argument. News for you: none of us are public figures or professional athletes. Once they put themselves out there on the world's stage, they are subject to all the whims, criticism or invective from the public. This is a tennis forum where we discuss tennis players. If someone on TTW is a doctor, lawyer, scientist, barrista or shop clerk is immaterial and completely off topic.

Of course you direct your adolescent question to everyone else here, but it also applies to you. What do you do? Are you the best at what you do? And we'll all sit in rapt attention on your knee while you ponitifcate the "pain of being second best." The fact is, nobody cares about what you do or what anyone here does (or doesn't do) for a living. We're discussing professional tennis players and their successes, failures and deportment is salient here. So if you don't like the discourse here from a bunch of "pathetic human beings," go elsewhere.

 

[BeatlesFan]

And it’s funny comparing Shelton to Rune and holding Rune as a better role model. Rune is the same guy who made a homophobic slur and then made it worse by personally penning an apology letter that looked like a brash 5 year old had written it.

And you're a liar. Come up with that "letter" since it doesn't exist. If you think you can just invent any lie about Holger here, think again.

Holger said after this incident, "I’m young and I need to learn. Not that that allows me to say crap like that. I was taught a lesson, and I think it’s fair that people criticise (me). I’m really sorry and hope people will accept my apology."

End of story.

https://www.ubitennis.net/2021/06/f...under-investigation-over-homophobic-comments/

I always wonder about what kind of tool holds an 18 year old kid responsible for remarks made over 2 years ago for which he's apologized? Nobody is allowed to make a mistake or say stupid things as a teenager? We learn from mistakes and move on. That's what Holger's done.

 

[WeekendTennisHack]

Lol. Ok

Why even ask then?

 

[mcs1970]

And you're a liar. Come up with that "letter" since it doesn't exist. If you think you can just invent any lie about Holger here, think again.

Holger said after this incident, "I’m young and I need to learn. Not that that allows me to say crap like that. I was taught a lesson, and I think it’s fair that people criticise (me). I’m really sorry and hope people will accept my apology."

End of story.

https://www.ubitennis.net/2021/06/f...under-investigation-over-homophobic-comments/

I always wonder about what kind of tool holds an 18 year old kid responsible for remarks made over 2 years ago for which he's apologized? Nobody is allowed to make a mistake or say stupid things as a teenager? We learn from mistakes and move on. That's what Holger's done.

Do some basic research before calling someone a liar. Look at the context and the lame apology he posted which is different from your text. Your text is the edited Rune apology after he got called out for his initial lame one. The lame one is captured in this article.

ATP is investigating rising star for yelling gay slurs during a match - Outsports

Danish player Holger Rune apologized on Instagram, though he edited his original statement.

www.outsports.com

BTW I am not saying Rune has not learned or is not a better human being now. I am just saying when someone says Rune was only bratty on the court as to make a direct comparison to Shelton, then It is fair to bring up Rune’s past and his lame apology.

 

[mcs1970]

Why even ask then?

My LOL was indicative that your answer showed you had no valid answr

 

[Red Rick]

Its just a bit cringe how big he talked for how **** he played and is ranked

 

[CoolCoolCool]

@The Blond Blur

 

[USMC-615]

Shelton is nothing shy of a little brat, punk…nothing more, nothing less.

 

[WeekendTennisHack]

My LOL was indicative that your answer showed you had no valid answr

You asked if I was the best, I said yes. That's invalid? LOL indeed.

 

[mcs1970]

Such a lame and pitifully weak argument. News for you: none of us are public figures or professional athletes. Once they put themselves out there on the world's stage, they are subject to all the whims, criticism or invective from the public. This is a tennis forum where we discuss tennis players. If someone on TTW is a doctor, lawyer, scientist, barrista or shop clerk is immaterial and completely off topic.

Of course you direct your adolescent question to everyone else here, but it also applies to you. What do you do? Are you the best at what you do? And we'll all sit in rapt attention on your knee while you ponitifcate the "pain of being second best." The fact is, nobody cares about what you do or what anyone here does (or doesn't do) for a living. We're discussing professional tennis players and their successes, failures and deportment is salient here. So if you don't like the discourse here from a bunch of "pathetic human beings," go elsewhere.

If one is ok with the excuse that a Joe blow can sit and drink and call others as pathetic human beings because they feel they don’t feel the pain of losses, then show how they are giving it their all too.

It is fair to criticize a player if you feel they are dogging it like Kyrgios and Tomic have done. It is ridiculous to start insulting a player amd especially his family members when the player has played hard and lost to a much better player just because you feel they didn’t show enough pain.

 

[Born_to_slice]

The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.

And they skateboard on the sidewalk!!!

 

[mcs1970]

You asked if I was the best, I said yes. That's invalid? LOL indeed.

Yep. I am the best too. So I know you are lying because you can’t be better than I am. Lol. This thread.

 

[Benf15harp]

This kid gives me Marburg hemorrhagic fever or cancer or both.

 

[WeekendTennisHack]

Yep. I am the best too. So I know you are lying because you can’t be better than I am. Lol. This thread.

You asked if I was the best at what I do. You don't even know if we do the same thing. What's wrong with you?

 

[Benf15harp]

Settle it on the pickleball courts like real men, gentleman.

 

[mcs1970]

You asked if I was the best at what I do. You don't even know if we do the same thing. What's wrong with you?

Sure dude. I believe you. Call someone’s family members as pathetic human beings because you know everything about being the best and can’t stand being second best. Yeah right.

 

[mcs1970]

Settle it on the pickleball courts like real men, gentleman.

I prefer a dance off. I am the best at it.

 

[The Blond Blur]

@The Blond Blur

Lol Dwight.

Also Dwight:

 

[WeekendTennisHack]

Sure dude. I believe you. Call someone’s family members as pathetic human beings because you know everything about being the best and can’t stand being second best. Yeah right.

You are one confused dude. The bottom line is he lost and he's not going to be a top winner until he stops the I am a great human who has achieved so much already, that's it's fine.

 

[mcs1970]

You are one confused dude. The bottom line is he lost and he's not going to be a top winner until he stops the I am a great human who has achieved so much already, that's it's fine.

Be the change you aim to see in others. You can start with not calling someone’s family members as pathetic human beings because you want them to openly show the pain of losing.

Note again. You didn’t just stop at going irrationally off on a player because he wasn’t showing enough sadness to make you happy. You actually went after his family. As I said this thread is one joyride.

 

[Impressario]

So, another dad coach? And from what we saw, not even in the same league with Apostolos. Count on Ben to be out of the top 100 come around next US Open.

 

[ballamaz]

So deluded.

Djoko is going to give him the same treatment that he gives to de Minaur.

 

[tudwell]

This thread has had some pretty hilarious responses to a video of a perfectly unexceptional post-match press conference.

 

[WeekendTennisHack]

Be the change you aim to see in others. You can start with not calling someone’s family members as pathetic human beings because you want them to openly show the pain of losing.

Note again. You didn’t just stop at going irrationally off on a player because he wasn’t showing enough sadness to make you happy. You actually went after his family. As I said this thread is one joyride.

I can do anything I want, don't tell me who I can call what.

As far as change, I don't give a rat's asss whether he changes or not. I'm just pointing out the truth, if he wants to be the best, you have to beat the best. And you sure as hell ain't gonna do it with, oh my two weeks here were wonderful, I did my best, la la la and off I go to merry merry land. Yeah, good luck with that.

His family is enabling him, who do you think made him that way. Son, don't worry you did your best, that's all we can ask for. LOLLLL.

 

[mcs1970]

I can do anything I want, don't tell me who I can call what.

As far as change, I don't give a rat's asss whether he changes or not. I'm just pointing out the truth, if he wants to be the best, you have to beat the best. And you sure as hell ain't gonna do it with, oh my two weeks here were wonderful, I did my best, la la la and off I go to merry merry land. Yeah, good luck with that.

His family is enabling him, who do you think made him that way. Son, don't worry you did your best, that's all we can ask for. LOLLLL.

That type of argument goes both ways. One can say that it looks like your parents have enabled you to call other’s families, whom you don’t know anything about, as pathetic human beings and use the “truth” crutch word to justify that type of behavior.

 

[WeekendTennisHack]

That type of argument goes both ways. One can say that it looks like your parents have enabled you to call other’s families, whom you don’t know anything about, as pathetic human beings and use the “truth” crutch word to justify that type of behavior.

I don't care what ONE says. ONE is an idiot. I say they are pathetic for being so happy down 2 sets and a break.

 

[Bambooman]

It would obviously help. I'm not hugely religious but there is a direct correlation between the lawlessness, disrespect and all other problems in the world (Especially America) and the downfall of fundamental Christian religion and lack of ethics and morals instilled in the home. .. Thats obvious


I mean we saw what happened to Rome. We are headed towards a clear downfall in western society, You would have to be blind not to see it. Many places in America you can't set foot in there is so much lawlessness

Most of those lawless folks are still religious.

Atheists tend to be the most peaceful folks you'll meet.

 

[Crocodile]

Like many young men and women , Ben needs a mentor to help him with all aspects of being a professional athlete.
Everybody is watching and commenting on everything you say and do, your attitude and facial expressions and this must be particularly hard in todays social media world.
I think in the past the public was more lenient and less critical but these days everyone is a critic and is looking for a gotcha moment,
Many of these young sporting athletes are being asked questions in the manner that seasoned politicians contend with. Back in the day actors and pop stars had the most freedom to say and do what they liked but these days even these people have to tip toe on egg shells. Sign of the times probably

 

[mcs1970]

Like many young men and women , Ben needs a mentor to help him with all aspects of being a professional athlete.
Everybody is watching and commenting on everything you say and do, your attitude and facial expressions and this must be particularly hard in todays social media world.
I think in the past the public was more lenient and less critical but these days everyone is a critic and is looking for a gotcha moment,
Many of these young sporting athletes are being asked questions in the manner that seasoned politicians contend with. Back in the day actors and pop stars had the most freedom to say and do what they liked but these days even these people have to tip toe on egg shells. Sign of the times probably

There was no gotcha moment.

There are folks here talking about kids who are lucky to be athletically gifted else would be in prison. We know exactly who they are referring to even though they are careful to not write that out explicitly. The parents are being called as pathetic human beings just because they didn’t show sadness or anger. Comparisons were made to other players older and younger when the counters were easy with respect to the documented past behavior of those players and Shelton has not even done anything like that. At least I am not aware.

The point is a PR firm is not going to help him against folks like these.

 

[pedro94]

Maybe you are right.

Not just Christianity, in general religion helps humans to have some morals and respect for people around them, thats why these religions were created in ancient times.
Absence of any form of religion and pure atheist mentality eventually leads to nihilism in society, total chaos. Selfishness takes over, everyone becomes so self centered that they lack empathy and respect for people around them and it gets worse with every generation. End result is anarchy.

If someone's reason for being moralistic and respectful is the fear of eternal hell, then that someone is not a good person to begin with.

Religion creates way more problems in the world than it solves.

 

[Crocodile]

In his QF press conference you can already tell why Novak doesn't like him:

Nothing untoward in the post match interview to be critical of, he went ok

 

[RaulRamirez]

It would obviously help. I'm not hugely religious but there is a direct correlation between the lawlessness, disrespect and all other problems in the world (Especially America) and the downfall of fundamental Christian religion and lack of ethics and morals instilled in the home. .. Thats obvious


I mean we saw what happened to Rome. We are headed towards a clear downfall in western society, You would have to be blind not to see it. Many places in America you can't set foot in there is so much lawlessness

I find your couple posts here to be reprehensible. (And no, I never communicate with the moderators -- not my thing. But you dragged this post down to this, and I want to respond to it.

You know when and where there was a ton of lawlessness in America? In the White House during the Trump years, and still present among all the insurrectionists in Congress -- seemingly backed fully by the religious right. is that inherent in religion? No. Is that a danger in today's America? Yes, to those who want a democracy and free and fair elections, and equal treatment to all.
Personally, I don't care what religion somebody is, or if they choose to follow a religion at all. If following a religion...any religion...enables someone to act more ethically, fine. But it's not a guarantee, and no one religion guarantees it!

I also think the OP's post about Shelton is unfair -- for whatever reason. The OP took an innocuous comment out of context ...he was, essentially asked if he was surprised by anything while playing Novak. If you were looking to be offended by his response, congratulations. It was more about Shelton's mindset than anything. And he didn't look to be in awe of him, but of course, he was outplayed by a better player.

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

I find your couple posts here to be reprehensible. (And no, I never communicate with the moderators -- not my thing. But you dragged this post down to this, and I want to respond to it.

You know when and where there was a ton of lawlessness in America? In the White House during the Trump years, and still present among all the insurrectionists in Congress -- seemingly backed fully by the religious right. is that inherent in religion? No. Is that a danger in today's America? Yes, to those who want a democracy and free and fair elections, and equal treatment to all.
Personally, I don't care what religion somebody is, or if they choose to follow a religion at all. If following a religion...any religion...enables someone to act more ethically, fine. But it's not a guarantee, and no one religion guarantees it!

I also think the OP's post about Shelton is unfair -- for whatever reason. The OP took an innocuous comment out of context ...he was, essentially asked if he was surprised by anything while playing Novak. If you were looking to be offended by his response, congratulations. It was more about Shelton's mindset than anything. And he didn't look to be in awe of him, but of course, he was outplayed by a better player.

LOL.. I wont say anything Don't get me started.. If you want to bring presidents like Trump (When the country was in farr better shape than it is now pre COVID) to be compared to this clown show of idiots like word salad, completely unqualified Kamala Harris and this demented old fool Biden of ours that needs handlers for him to walk and talk that have destroyed this nation with their socialist BS resulting in runaway inflation, homelessness and lawlessness. , its best I ignore your post because it won't end pretty.

Democrats don't believe in results for the betterment of everyone. . They believe in ideology for better or worse. . Look at history and look at present day America. The proof is in the pudding

 

[Aabye5]

It is simple. Shelton is brash, self-centered and arrogant, period.

Love that Novak did the phone hang-up gesture at the end. Gave him a taste of his own medicine.

This guy makes Kyrgios look humble.

Sounds a lot like young Nole. "I was totally winning that match against Rafa..."

 

[NonP]

It would obviously help. I'm not hugely religious but there is a direct correlation between the lawlessness, disrespect and all other problems in the world (Especially America) and the downfall of fundamental Christian religion and lack of ethics and morals instilled in the home. .. Thats obvious


I mean we saw what happened to Rome. We are headed towards a clear downfall in western society, You would have to be blind not to see it. Many places in America you can't set foot in there is so much lawlessness

Lemme see your PhD in sociology, tough guy.

What a horrible human being.

Rune is at least fun to watch and his bratness is kinda comedic, but dude here just had a random good run thanks to an excellent draw, got humiliated by Djokovic in the SF and thinks he's the next Alcaraz or something. Know your place, naab.

You know what the biggest problem with Shelton and all these new young guys for that matter? They are so focused on the "POSITIVE". Oh look what I did right. Just listen to him. Cannot win with that kind if attitude. Must be irate that you lost and realize the only real positive is winning and nothing else. He has to be fixated on the failure and burn inside awaiting for unadulterated revenge at all costs. Watch Djokovic's team when he's up two sets and a break and they are all miserable and worried as hell. Meanwhile at the same time, Shelton's team is overjoyed when he hits a winner and about to lose the match. Pathetic human beings.

Not just him and the lost gen but all the idiotic woke out there. They are so against being offended or looking at the negative. The world is going to regress more and more as this new age attitude is fostered in and accepted as the new normal.

Am I the only one who thinks these armchair mugs need to get out more?

And one of 'em is a proud Covidiot to boot. Comical, really.

I find your couple posts here to be reprehensible. (And no, I never communicate with the moderators -- not my thing. But you dragged this post down to this, and I want to respond to it.

You know when and where there was a ton of lawlessness in America? In the White House during the Trump years, and still present among all the insurrectionists in Congress -- seemingly backed fully by the religious right. is that inherent in religion? No. Is that a danger in today's America? Yes, to those who want a democracy and free and fair elections, and equal treatment to all.
Personally, I don't care what religion somebody is, or if they choose to follow a religion at all. If following a religion...any religion...enables someone to act more ethically, fine. But it's not a guarantee, and no one religion guarantees it!

I also think the OP's post about Shelton is unfair -- for whatever reason. The OP took an innocuous comment out of context ...he was, essentially asked if he was surprised by anything while playing Novak. If you were looking to be offended by his response, congratulations. It was more about Shelton's mindset than anything. And he didn't look to be in awe of him, but of course, he was outplayed by a better player.

You're talking to a reactionary crackpot that seriously thinks a treasonous know-nothing buffoon like Dump is somehow preferable to a harmless centrist like Biden. Don't waste your breath.

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

Lemme see your PhD in sociology, tough guy.



Am I the only one who thinks these armchair mugs need to get out more?

And one of 'em is a proud Covidiot to boot. Comical, really.


You're talking to a reactionary crackpot that seriously thinks a treasonous know-nothing buffoon like Dump is somehow preferable to a harmless centrist like Biden. Don't waste your breath.

The fact you think think Biden has been "harmless" over the last 3 years tells me everything. Again compare America now to Pre-COVID Republican ran. Nothing "harmless" about that. Greater Crime, Greater Homelessness, Greater inflation.. Thats a FACT pal. It aint an opinion

 

[Aabye5]

The fact you think think Biden has been "harmless" over the last 3 years tells me everything. Again compare America now to Pre-COVID Republican ran. Nothing "harmless" about that. Greater Crime, Greater Homelessness, Greater inflation.. Thats a FACT pal. It aint an opinion

His name is Ben, not Biden.

 

[messiahrobins]

Shelton is a winner. Love the attitude. Tennis is too genteel anyway. He clearly got to djokoviv and i bet shelton will do it more next time they play. It had an effect.

 

[Razer]

If someone's reason for being moralistic and respectful is the fear of eternal hell, then that someone is not a good person to begin with.

Religion creates way more problems in the world than it solves.

Fear of a punisher waiting in eternal hell in afterlife / some karma accountant punishing you in your next incarnation of birth is what could force humans to do good in a world where resources on earth are not free anymore for humans, everything has been priced and everyone has to work to grab their share of wealth and thus their right to live. Tbh in this capitalist world even the good ones get corrupted in this rat race, which is why we need religions, unfortunately the religious leaders have also become corrupted because the people in charge themselves lack faith because we've not had any miracles/divine interventions in the last 1000-1400 odd years. It gets harder and harder to convince your next generation on why they need to be good to others, this capitalist dog eats dog world ensures that, this is why we still need religions no matter how obsolete they look now.

 

[RaulRamirez]

Lemme see your PhD in sociology, tough guy.



Am I the only one who thinks these armchair mugs need to get out more?

And one of 'em is a proud Covidiot to boot. Comical, really.


You're talking to a reactionary crackpot that seriously thinks a treasonous know-nothing buffoon like Dump is somehow preferable to a harmless centrist like Biden. Don't waste your breath.

I really do try to keep politics (however defined) off of this forum, though I don't always succeed.
But sometimes, the comments are so narrow-minded (and often cross into thinly-veiled or not so thinly-veiled racism, xenophobia, misogyny, etc., and it's hard for me to tolerate intolerance.

Even sticking with the main point OP, I was rooting for Novak to win his semi with Shelton yesterday, but wasn't enamored with his post-match gesture, and the handshake at the net wasn't nearly as warm and gracious as his usual. I thought that Shelton did well to deflect that silly controversy, and his other answer that people seemed to be fixated on seemed completely inoffensive. We can find post-match comments (especially after defeats) by each of The Big 3 that were worse -- and from when they were older than 20 and much more seasoned on the tour.

 

[beltsman]

Why?

Fed didn't care about what other people thought. He wasn't trying to impress or show off. It was an internal arrogance.

Shelton has an external arrogance. He cares what others think. So I think he will feel more pressure when he is struggling.

 

[NonP]

The fact you think think Biden has been "harmless" over the last 3 years tells me everything. Again compare America now to Pre-COVID Republican ran. Nothing "harmless" about that. Greater Crime, Greater Homelessness, Greater inflation.. Thats a FACT pal. It aint an opinion

So you're no sociologist. Gotcha.

Fear of a punisher waiting in eternal hell in afterlife / some karma accountant punishing you in your next incarnation of birth is what could force humans to do good in a world where resources on earth are not free anymore for humans, everything has been priced and everyone has to work to grab their share of wealth and thus their right to live. Tbh in this capitalist world even the good ones get corrupted in this rat race, which is why we need religions, unfortunately the religious leaders have also become corrupted because the people in charge themselves lack faith because we've not had any miracles/divine interventions in the last 1000-1400 odd years. It gets harder and harder to convince your next generation on why they need to be good to others, this capitalist dog eats dog world ensures that, this is why we still need religions no matter how obsolete they look now.

Whether religion makes the world better or worse is a never-ending debate with no definitive answers. Moi, I say people on the whole are stupid a-holes that do need be reined in by laws, rules and mores, religious or not. For proof look no further than our responses to the latest pandemic and the wars in Ukraine, Syria, Yemen, etc.

I really do try to keep politics (however defined) off of this forum, though I don't always succeed.
But sometimes, the comments are so narrow-minded (and often cross into thinly-veiled or not so thinly-veiled racism, xenophobia, misogyny, etc., and it's hard for me to tolerate intolerance.

Even sticking with the main point OP, I was rooting for Novak to win his semi with Shelton yesterday, but wasn't enamored with his post-match gesture, and the handshake at the net wasn't nearly as warm and gracious as his usual. I thought that Shelton did well to deflect that silly controversy, and his other answer that people seemed to be fixated on seemed completely inoffensive. We can find post-match comments (especially after defeats) by each of The Big 3 that were worse -- and from when they were older than 20 and much more seasoned on the tour.

The right wing in this country has lost its mind. I mean name me one influential US conservative that did not support Trump or at least look the other way. You can't.

And I agree Shelton's post-match presser was nothing to get worked up about. But the zombies need their daily dose of outrage, hence this joke thread.

 

[tennis_pro]

And one of 'em is a proud Covidiot to boot. Comical, really.

This coming from someone dumb enough to take 5 doses of an experimental blood clotting substance, so that he can feel "protected" against a flu with a 99,9% survival rate I take that as compliment.

 

[mcs1970]

Fed didn't care about what other people thought. He wasn't trying to impress or show off. It was an internal arrogance.

Shelton has an external arrogance. He cares what others think. So I think he will feel more pressure when he is struggling.

It was not internal. Fed made public statements that came back to bite him. Fed cared enough to not do it anymore when he started getting beat.

Look my fav player was Pete and his demeanor on the court was a big reason why. However I don’t have an issue with players who are more vocal and arrogant on the court either. Everyone has a different personality.

 

[NonP]

This coming from someone dumb enough

You can't even spell or write but yeah, you're the smart one.

to take 5 doses of an expirmental blood clotting substance

You can bleat out "expirmental" all you want but you stubborn crackpottery doesn't override a mountain of data from actual scientists.

so that he can feel "protected" against a flu with a 99,9% survival rate

Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same debunked lie over and over?

I take that as a compliment.

Well, at least you've got your pride.

It was not internal. Fed made public statements that came back to bite him. Fed cared enough to not do it anymore when he started getting beat.

Look my fav player was Pete and his demeanor on the court was a big reason why. However I don’t have an issue with players who are more vocal and arrogant on the court either. Everyone has a different personality.

Some of this is generational. I was talking to a couple older members of a group chat who are by no means fanboys and they do strongly disapprove of the kid's antics.

Of course the same can't be said of these jokers that try to fill their empty lives with fleeting highs from whatever sources of outrage they can find.

 

[fishpiefriday]

He's a dick.

 

[Crocodile]

There was no gotcha moment.

There are folks here talking about kids who are lucky to be athletically gifted else would be in prison. We know exactly who they are referring to even though they are careful to not write that out explicitly. The parents are being called as pathetic human beings just because they didn’t show sadness or anger. Comparisons were made to other players older and younger when the counters were easy with respect to the documented past behavior of those players and Shelton has not even done anything like that. At least I am not aware.

The point is a PR firm is not going to help him against folks like these.

I’m not across the detail you are talking about just to say that in the current world we live in, young people need good advice and mentors which is the point I was making.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Fed didn't care about what other people thought. He wasn't trying to impress or show off. It was an internal arrogance.

Shelton has an external arrogance. He cares what others think. So I think he will feel more pressure when he is struggling.

Why compare a total mug to Roger Federer? Fed having arrogance is understandable, he's the most popular tennis player ever and a billionaire. Shelton has never won a single tournament and is grotesque. It's like comparing Raonic to Sampras.

Please.

 

[Aabye5]

Why compare a total mug to Roger Federer? Fed having arrogance is understandable, he's the most popular tennis player ever and a billionaire. Shelton has never won a single tournament and is grotesque.

Fed was arrogant before he won. So was Novak. Even Rafa, in a way.

 

[mcs1970]

Why compare a total mug to Roger Federer? Fed having arrogance is understandable, he's the most popular tennis player ever and a billionaire. Shelton has never won a single tournament and is grotesque. It's like comparing Raonic to Sampras.

Please.

Haha. Now it is ok to be arrogant if you have more talent. So predictable.


BTW how about some basic decency and admitting you were wrong for calling me a liar before even I had a chance to respond. Plus when I responded and showed you Rune’s original post…no comments and just crickets. Again par for the course.