Ben shelton racquet specs?

He used to use a Vcore Pro 97HD, which tennis warehouse lists at 326 average swing weight. No idea about his customisations though, or what he does with his current Ezone.
 

Trip

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First off, I wonder what layup he's using: 305g or 315g, or custom? If 305, then it's reasonable to assume perhaps 5-8g lead under the bumper (as there's none visible on the frame) and maybe a bit of handle weight. If it's the 315, then perhaps just some handle weight and good to go.

@uk_skippy or anyone able to spill the beans on a strung spec?
 

uk_skippy

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First off, I wonder what layup he's using: 305g or 315g, or custom? If 305, then it's reasonable to assume perhaps 5-8g lead under the bumper (as there's none visible on the frame) and maybe a bit of handle weight. If it's the 315, then perhaps just some handle weight and good to go.

@uk_skippy or anyone able to spill the beans on a strung spec?

Sorry, I dont know his specs
 
A french professional racquet customizing business posted his specs online but I don’t know if they’re correct. The posted specs are literally what tennis warehouse shows as the strung specs of the racquet but he says the specs are unstrung with overgrip which is possible because the sw would then be around 340-345 since yonex strings are light. Here is the post and what I messaged him. Maybe someone who speaks french can ask him again in a clearer way if he has actually measured his specs. He gets most other pro players specs right but this just seems off.
 

Trip

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Nice find @TysonMcMuffin. If that source is true, then that would put strung spec at ~340g/33.3-33.5cm (~3-4pts HL)/~348sw (162rw/20.6mgr/i), which is not super surprising, although that recoil weight is fairly low for his height and arm length, which is a bit concerning, mainly for the sake of arm comfort. And you can definitely hear that crisp, hollow crackle when he hits the ball, very similar to Sinner, so I'm guessing he strings fairly high, which doesn't help comfort either. Oh well, hopefully these guys aren't headed for issues... that said, the other night against Tiafoe, you could clearly see a heat cupping marks right over where the bicep muscle head meets the transverse humeral ligament:

tennis-usa-open.jpg

Makes me a little concerned for the harshness of the overall setup, but I guess when you're blasting 149mph heaters, it comes with the territory?
 
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Trip

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iirc he requested a tension of 60/57 during the match against tiafoe. the announcers were talking about it
There you go. YPT Strike / YPT Pro at 60/57... Yikes. At least he gets a modicum of comfort from the decently high swing weight. Or one would only hope anyways...
 

McEncock

Professional
Nice find @TysonMcMuffin. If that source is true, then that would put strung spec at ~340g/33.3-33.5cm (~3-4pts HL)/~348sw (162rw/20.6mgr/i), which is not super surprising, although that recoil weight is fairly low for his height and arm length, which is a bit concerning, mainly for the sake of arm comfort. And you can definitely hear that crisp, hollow crackle when he hits the ball, very similar to Sinner, so I'm guessing he strings fairly high, which doesn't help comfort either. Oh well, hopefully these guys aren't headed for issues... that said, the other night against Tiafoe, you could clearly see a heat cupping marks right over where the bicep muscle head meets the transverse humeral ligament:

tennis-usa-open.jpg

Makes me a little concerned for the harshness of the overall setup, but I guess when you blasting 149mph heaters, it comes with the territory?
I've measured many 16x19 racquets with my RDC machine and never has a 17g copoly, even YPTP, added less than 30sw points.
His strung SW is at minimum 348, and more likely 350 ish
 

Trip

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I've measured many 16x19 racquets with my RDC machine and never has a 17g copoly, even YPTP, added less than 30sw points.
His strung SW is at minimum 348, and more likely 350 ish
Quite likely correct, and all the more nuts thinking about the level of racquet head speed produced with a 350 swing weight for hours on end. Pro athletes are indeed on another planet.
 

aaron_h27

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I've measured many 16x19 racquets with my RDC machine and never has a 17g copoly, even YPTP, added less than 30sw points.
His strung SW is at minimum 348, and more likely 350 ish
Interesting because his game doesn't look like he uses a high SW. I would've thought his spec is closer to Kyrgios
 

Trip

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Interesting because his game doesn't look like he uses a high SW. I would've thought his spec is closer to Kyrgios
Actually, I'm of a similar mind in a way. I would think that 350sw would be hard to whip around that fast, even for an athlete such as Ben.... makes me question the "unstrung specs" advertised on the instagram post by racket.lab, at the very least...
 
Interesting because his game doesn't look like he uses a high SW. I would've thought his spec is closer to Kyrgios
I mean I have a VCORE 97 HD, the racquet he initially used, and the specs of that racquet are pretty much identical to kyrgios specs. SW 325 Balance 31.8, Static weight 342. This is ben’s previous racquet specs. So it’s likely they just matched his old racquet specs.
 

McGradey

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I thought the same re. Shelton's swing and the racquet spec, looks like a lighter spec ... but ... he is a unit, 6'4"? So swinging a log could be doable for him. Similarly, you probably wouldn't guess Nadal's racquet had a 350+ swingweight based on his swing, or I wouldn't have anyway.
 

mpournaras

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Nice find @TysonMcMuffin. If that source is true, then that would put strung spec at ~340g/33.3-33.5cm (~3-4pts HL)/~348sw (162rw/20.6mgr/i), which is not super surprising, although that recoil weight is fairly low for his height and arm length, which is a bit concerning, mainly for the sake of arm comfort. And you can definitely hear that crisp, hollow crackle when he hits the ball, very similar to Sinner, so I'm guessing he strings fairly high, which doesn't help comfort either. Oh well, hopefully these guys aren't headed for issues... that said, the other night against Tiafoe, you could clearly see a heat cupping marks right over where the bicep muscle head meets the transverse humeral ligament:

tennis-usa-open.jpg

Makes me a little concerned for the harshness of the overall setup, but I guess when you're blasting 149mph heaters, it comes with the territory?
Cupping is BS beyond a placebo effect. If it makes him feel better thats good... but its not the cupping lol
 
A french professional racquet customizing business posted his specs online but I don’t know if they’re correct. The posted specs are literally what tennis warehouse shows as the strung specs of the racquet but he says the specs are unstrung with overgrip which is possible because the sw would then be around 340-345 since yonex strings are light. Here is the post and what I messaged him. Maybe someone who speaks french can ask him again in a clearer way if he has actually measured his specs. He gets most other pro players specs right but this just seems off.
Pretty sure thats just normal ezone specs and they confused.
 
Bumping this because I'm pretty sure his specs are still unknown and I want to see if anyone has an update. So far I'm assuming they gave him Kyrgios specs since his previous racquet had very similar specs to what Kyrgios' is at. The specs I posted from racket.lab are probably not legit so maybe someone else knows.
 

ChrisJR3264

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Bumping this because I'm pretty sure his specs are still unknown and I want to see if anyone has an update. So far I'm assuming they gave him Kyrgios specs since his previous racquet had very similar specs to what Kyrgios' is at. The specs I posted from racket.lab are probably not legit so maybe someone else knows.
Pretty sure his specs reflect the 97HD he was using.
323 grams unstrung. My guess is strung is 345 (with OG) 32-32.5 cm balance. Maybe around 340 SW
 

Brando

Professional
Interestingly, @ChrisJR3264, 345g, 32.5cm, 340sw would keep him at the same 165rw gotten from 340g, 33.3cm, 350sw. Either way, that's 11 RW points below what a 6'4" guy should be playing, IMO. How telling that, in post #7, @Trip predicts that he'd need tight strings to make up for that, and that's indeed what he has.

But one thing I don't quite get, @Trip, is how tight strings help make up for a low recoil weight. Walk me through it, would you?
 

Donmikan

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Interestingly, @ChrisJR3264, 345g, 32.5cm, 340sw would keep him at the same 165rw gotten from 340g, 33.3cm, 350sw. Either way, that's 11 RW points below what a 6'4" guy should be playing, IMO. How telling that, in post #7, @Trip predicts that he'd need tight strings to make up for that, and that's indeed what he has.

But one thing I don't quite get, @Trip, is how tight strings help make up for a low recoil weight. Walk me through it, would you?
Nice find @TysonMcMuffin. If that source is true, then that would put strung spec at ~340g/33.3-33.5cm (~3-4pts HL)/~348sw (162rw/20.6mgr/i), which is not super surprising, although that recoil weight is fairly low for his height and arm length, which is a bit concerning, mainly for the sake of arm comfort. And you can definitely hear that crisp, hollow crackle when he hits the ball, very similar to Sinner, so I'm guessing he strings fairly high, which doesn't help comfort either.
He says he is guessing the tension based on the sound of the hit, nothing to do with RW. Although, there might be something to the idea of lower tension, especially with a more elastic string, adding comfort and rebound speed to the ball, thus substituting some RW.

But that opens another can of worms, meaning that your RW to height theory might need another component, namely string bed energy absorbtion. This has nothing to do with the swing prior to the contact, but is based on the outcome of the shot.
 

Klitz

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He says he is guessing the tension based on the sound of the hit, nothing to do with RW. Although, there might be something to the idea of lower tension, especially with a more elastic string, adding comfort and rebound speed to the ball, thus substituting some RW.

But that opens another can of worms, meaning that your RW to height theory might need another component, namely string bed energy absorbtion. This has nothing to do with the swing prior to the contact, but is based on the outcome of the shot.
His tension at houston was:

56/59 PT STRIKE/PT PRO
 

Trip

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Interestingly, @ChrisJR3264, 345g, 32.5cm, 340sw would keep him at the same 165rw gotten from 340g, 33.3cm, 350sw. Either way, that's 11 RW points below what a 6'4" guy should be playing, IMO. How telling that, in post #7, @Trip predicts that he'd need tight strings to make up for that, and that's indeed what he has. But one thing I don't quite get, @Trip, is how tight strings help make up for a low recoil weight. Walk me through it, would you?
Not sure how my message came across that way, @Brando, but I was only commenting on how high the string tension must be based on the sound on contact that I was hearing... very similar to Sinner. And, low and behold, they both use a similar formula: high-ish (for next gens at least) swing weight, with relatively high tension strings (for control), plus low recoil (by your charter's standards, anyways) offset by extremely high racquet head speed. Kind of a double set of juxtaposing attributes, which mostly balance each other. The both prefer to use more bludgeoning force on contact (as do I), but do so with a weighting setup that gives them a lighter-than-should-be recoil, which I *think* may allow, and somehow be a roundabout match for, their otherworldly racquet head speed, which they might not be able to institute as well, if they were to play a recoil that were "up to snuff", per your chart. Just a hunch, but there may be something there.
 

Brando

Professional
Ah, I see, @Trip. The high tension is about controlling the power of Shelton's, as you say, otherworldly RHS, which might be better offset by a higher recoil weight. BTW, I wasn't challenging your assertion (which it turns out wasn't an one, anyway) but am trying to straight up gather intel.
 

Trip

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Ah, I see, @Trip. The high tension is about controlling the power of Shelton's, as you say, otherworldly RHS, which might be better offset by a higher recoil weight. BTW, I wasn't challenging your assertion (which it turns out wasn't an one, anyway) but am trying to straight up gather intel.
All good @Brando! Yeah, I think the high tension is definitely to corral his striking power. I'm hope the combo at such relatively low recoil weight doesn't come back to bite him at some point. Only time will tell.
 
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Brando

Professional
Yeah, Carlito, with his insane racquet RHS, is already experiencing arm issues. They kept him off the tour between the Australian Open and Madrid, where the injury contributed to his loss to Rublev. And now his people have announced that he's out of Rome. Hopefully we'll see him in Paris, but I have a feeling this injury ain't going anywhere. And I don't think his super light (for a pro) setup (reportedly 330g, 32.5cm, 330sw, 163rw) isn't helping him.
 

K1Y

Professional
Yeah, Carlito, with his insane racquet RHS, is already experiencing arm issues. They kept him off the tour between the Australian Open and Madrid, where the injury contributed to his loss to Rublev. And now his people have announced that he's out of Rome. Hopefully we'll see him in Paris, but I have a feeling this injury ain't going anywhere. And I don't think his super light (for a pro) setup (reportedly 330g, 32.5cm, 330sw, 163rw) isn't helping him.
Let's say Carlito is reading the forums right now, looking for a solution. What would be the easiest transition and most minimal thing to change? Add weight to the racket? Lower the string tension? Change the strings?
 

Brando

Professional
G'ah! [insert spit-take] But seriously, @K1Y, I'd hypothetically suggest a higher recoil weight via more handle weight. I doubt he'd want more swingweight since this'd slow his forearm speed while adding maybe too much whip-through (racquet velocity / forearm velocity) into contact.

But even more seriously, I'm sure his team is on this. At that level, he has to be consulting with someone who has a deep understanding of how swing biomechanics interact with racquet physics. Then there's how we don't know exactly what's going on with his arm. Players always play their injuries close to the chest lest their competitors take strategic advantage of the intel.
 
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