Berdman shows lack of volleying experience

[markwillplay]

OK, now I have seen the Berdman’s action. I will probably never pull for him again. What a pu%$y!!!!!!!!!!!!! That shot by Almagro was a good shot. Would have been way hard to go cross court and down the line is not that easy on the run either. Fair shot. If you are at net and have your man on the run reaching, prepare yourself. Holy smoke what a baby for not shaking hands.

And this my friends and fellow tennis players is a direct result of the modern game and players not being accustom to net play. Not that he could have hit the ball, of course not, way to hard a shot,but it shows that he has not been to net very much in his carreer either. Not to expect that and to understand that it happens. What a *****cat. wow, an actual pro that can't accept that this is part of the game when you come to net......WOW:shock:

 

[BeHappy]

So it's ok for Almagro to hit him, but it isn't ok for Berdych to not shake his hand for revenge, but it is ok for thousands of spectators to boo Berdych for revenge?

All 3 acts are within the rules but terrible sportsmanship, but only Berdych was in the wrong?

 

[850beast]

I thought people get hit all the time in dubs wats the problem?

 

[nikdom]

If Berdych is a pu$$y for not shaking hands at the net then folks who have their panties in a bunch over a handshake are?

 

[LeftySpin]

lendl hit a bunch of people and they still shook hands...his were intentional too. hell he didn't apologize half the time. i think he just took it too personally, when you come to the net that is part of the risk.

 

[Legend of Borg]

If he was a ***sy he wouldn't have stayed on the court and taken all the **** the crowd was giving him while attempting to give an interview.

In a way, I see this as a brave act since he knew 90% of the people watching the match would want to lynch him and burn him at the stake.

Bet you that all the people on here talking about "manning up" and all that BS wouldn't have the guts to do that.

They would take it quietly and go in the locker room like the "good sportsmen" that they are.

 

[DNShade]

So it's ok for Almagro to hit him, but it isn't ok for Berdych to not shake his hand for revenge, but it is ok for thousands of spectators to boo Berdych for revenge?

Yes. Perfectly ok. Almagro's shot was totally legit and a perfect and expected shot. Shows that you people who question it don't play at net much or don't play any competitive doubles at all. Going right at the guy at net in singles or doubles is an expected shot and is deemed all well and good. If you hit the guy that's fine too. Make sure he isn't hurt and move on. This is how tennis is played.

And this is from a guy who is usually at net and been on the receiving end of balls drilled right at me - and hit - many times. If I'm at net and the ball is hit right at me and I can't volley it away - that's my bad not the other player. If his best shot is to go right at me - then bring it on. Happens all the time.

All 3 acts are within the rules but terrible sportsmanship, but only Berdych was in the wrong?

No. Only one act was bad sportsmanship - Berdych's. Everyone else was doing the right and expected thing.

 

[FD3S]

Nah, it's Berdych's prerogative if he doesn't want to shake hands. He's well within his rights to demonstrate his displeasure.

With that said, Almagro hit the highest percentage shot for the situation. Lob? Probably not gonna work. CC pass? Hard. DTL pass? Even harder. Right at the guy? Smart play.

 

[tennis_pro]

If this is a "high percentage shot", why don't we see players go straight at their opponents in these situations more often (not to say AT ALL)? That's right.

Almagro got what he deserved and I'm very happy he lost.

 

[FD3S]

If this is a "high percentage shot", why don't we see players go straight at their opponents in these situations more often (not to say AT ALL)? That's right.

Almagro got what he wanted and I'm very happy he lost.

It was a high-percentage shot for this particular point. A lot of the time people trying to pass either have lanes at least decently open, or have a chance the lob might not get crushed. Plus, going for the guy doesn't work all the time - it depends on how the point was constructed.

This time, though? Virtually any shot other than the one Almagro played would have been almost a guaranteed UE or winner from Berdych, b/c to be frank Almagro is an average passer and he would have had to make tough shots (plus, y'know, Berdych is really freaking tall). You do what you have to do.

 

[markwillplay]

If Berdych is a pu$$y for not shaking hands at the net then folks who have their panties in a bunch over a handshake are?

now this is true, I had to laugh at myself.

Look, if someone takes a shot at your head (yes, has happened) then that is a different matter and I might not shake his hand either. But that is not the case. Fans can boo whomever they want for whatever they want, welcome to pro sports... I think the Berdman was a poor sport for not shaking hands and a puss for taking the shot personally. Almagro was not trying to hit him in the head and I have absolutely no problem with Almagro hitting him on purpose. Sometimes that is the best play and the easiest way (or best chance) of getting the winner. Much harder at a steep angle to miss him cross court or to really "try" to miss him. almagro was going cross court and Berdman was standing there. Prepare yourself and don't take it personally if you get hit by a ball going cross court hit by a man who had to run to get to it. If he did not want to risk getting hit, he could have guessed one waay or the other... Whole thing just seems crazy to me. Maybe I am a bad player, but I always looked at it as an option to hit it right at the person at the net if passing seemed to be harder.

Berd is the poor sport here in my opinon. don't come up to the net if you are gonna be mad because someone hits the ball at you making you hit it back!!!!!

 

[markwillplay]

If this is a "high percentage shot", why don't we see players go straight at their opponents in these situations more often (not to say AT ALL)? That's right.

Almagro got what he deserved and I'm very happy he lost.

I think we do see poeple hitting it at people at times..but not that often becusae to be honest, we don't see people at the net all that often these days. Every time someone hits a volley that they don't have to reach for....the ball was hit at or near them:shock:

 

[skip1969]

well, he's 6'5" and not exactly john mcenroe up there. it probably explains (partly) why he got hit. you need to move like a gazelle up there and have quick hands. sadly, he has neither of those attributes.

 

[sabala]

If he was a ***sy he wouldn't have stayed on the court and taken all the **** the crowd was giving him while attempting to give an interview.

In a way, I see this as a brave act since he knew 90% of the people watching the match would want to lynch him and burn him at the stake.

Bet you that all the people on here talking about "manning up" and all that BS wouldn't have the guts to do that.

They would take it quietly and go in the locker room like the "good sportsmen" that they are.

I would bet that all people talking on here about "manning up" have taken some serious body hits much worse than Berdy did, laughed it off, not taken offense knowing it's a legit shot, continued to play and have no problem shaking hands after the match... unlike Berdych

 

[BirdWalkR]

If this is a "high percentage shot", why don't we see players go straight at their opponents in these situations more often (not to say AT ALL)? That's right.

Almagro got what he deserved and I'm very happy he lost.

Because most of the time theres a CC or DTL Passing shot or at least the chance to lob. Berdych is a big guy with a huge wing span so all 3 of
those shots would have been extremley difficulty to hit well especially considering where the ball bounced. Berdych hit a crappy volley and Almagro
took advantage of the situation hitting a high percentage, legit shot. Not really sure how you could take Berdych's side here.. especially considering
Almagro immediatley apologized and Berdych sulked about it like a juvenile. It's proffesional tennis. He shouldv'e just shook it off, gotten over it and shown some maturity.

 

[Xizel]

Almagro tried to lob Berdych a few times. 6'5" doesn't really allow that, so that shot was justified.

 

[nikdom]

now this is true, I had to laugh at myself.

Look, if someone takes a shot at your head (yes, has happened) then that is a different matter and I might not shake his hand either. But that is not the case. Fans can boo whomever they want for whatever they want, welcome to pro sports... I think the Berdman was a poor sport for not shaking hands and a puss for taking the shot personally. Almagro was not trying to hit him in the head and I have absolutely no problem with Almagro hitting him on purpose. Sometimes that is the best play and the easiest way (or best chance) of getting the winner. Much harder at a steep angle to miss him cross court or to really "try" to miss him. almagro was going cross court and Berdman was standing there. Prepare yourself and don't take it personally if you get hit by a ball going cross court hit by a man who had to run to get to it. If he did not want to risk getting hit, he could have guessed one waay or the other... Whole thing just seems crazy to me. Maybe I am a bad player, but I always looked at it as an option to hit it right at the person at the net if passing seemed to be harder.

Berd is the poor sport here in my opinon. don't come up to the net if you are gonna be mad because someone hits the ball at you making you hit it back!!!!!

Berd exercised poor judgment in the moment. He got booed for it and I think got what he asked for. Beyond that, any more hand wringing is pointless.

But kudos on being open minded to see the extent of the over reaction

 

[Big_Dangerous]

So it's ok for Almagro to hit him, but it isn't ok for Berdych to not shake his hand for revenge, but it is ok for thousands of spectators to boo Berdych for revenge?

All 3 acts are within the rules but terrible sportsmanship, but only Berdych was in the wrong?

He got hit with a shot that wasn't a sitter or an easy put away for Almagro...

Almagro even apologized and went to make sure he was okay...

How is that poor sportsmanship by Almagro? The easiest shot he had from there was to go right at Berdych. Berdych had down the line covered, the only other option to win the point was for Almagro to go cross court, but that would have been way more difficult than to hit it at Berdych.

Berdych has pulled classless antics before, so he deserved to be booed. If he's pissy over getting hit, then he shouldn't even be playing tennis.

 

[DNShade]

If this is a "high percentage shot", why don't we see players go straight at their opponents in these situations more often (not to say AT ALL)? That's right.

Almagro got what he deserved and I'm very happy he lost.

Actually you see it quite a bit - not nearly as much as when players used S&V - but it still happens ALL THE TIME. The reason you don't see it more often is just because the players aren't at net all that much anymore. And players today just seem to be a bit more passive when it comes to that stuff - mainly because they aren't used to trying to pass people at net who know how to actually volley and read passing shots.

Try seeing some McEnroe-Lendl matches - or Jimbo or Pete and Andre or how many times Boris and Edberg had shots rifled at them. It goes with the territory or being at net.

If you are happy he lost because of that shot - you don't know and certainly don't play tennis very much or well at all. And you sure as he11 aren't a "tennis pro". Period.

 

[markwillplay]

now what would be good is if Berdman has a change of heart and openly says that he should have sheken hands...see, then all would probably go away. And so would I (just kidding).

And you are right, probably jumped on it too much but dang, I had to start a conversation somewhere in this tournament to have some fun..and I love to talk about these grown men (professional tennis players) whinning. Now, about that Nalbandian Isner incident....juuuuuust kidding

 

[Manus Domini]

well, he's 6'5" and not exactly john mcenroe up there. it probably explains (partly) why he got hit. you need to move like a gazelle up there and have quick hands. sadly, he has neither of those attributes.

Even McEnroe got pegged by Lendl

 

[FD3S]

Even McEnroe got pegged by Lendl

And Lendl went for him a fair bit, not just once in a while.

 

[Devilito]

Birditch at a baseball game

 

[chatt_town]

Maybe he took Fed's advice and have been working on his strengths.lol I saw it and think it is crazy as well. I will go a step further...He could have made the volley. Almagro was behind his service line and Berdman was in the middle of his service box. I know in a men's 4.0 match you are not to cry and moan about being hit at.lol Why should it be any different for him?

OK, now I have seen the Berdman’s action. I will probably never pull for him again. What a pu%$y!!!!!!!!!!!!! That shot by Almagro was a good shot. Would have been way hard to go cross court and down the line is not that easy on the run either. Fair shot. If you are at net and have your man on the run reaching, prepare yourself. Holy smoke what a baby for not shaking hands.

And this my friends and fellow tennis players is a direct result of the modern game and players not being accustom to net play. Not that he could have hit the ball, of course not, way to hard a shot,but it shows that he has not been to net very much in his carreer either. Not to expect that and to understand that it happens. What a *****cat. wow, an actual pro that can't accept that this is part of the game when you come to net......WOW:shock:

 

[chatt_town]

Yep Berdman was dead wrong. He got hit coming into net by a man that was on the dead run. It wasn't like they were both within handshaking distance at the net and Almagro had his feet planted and went at him. He clearly came in on a bad ball(for him) and then got mad because he paid the ultimate price for it. As far the fans, well Berd put himself in that position.

So it's ok for Almagro to hit him, but it isn't ok for Berdych to not shake his hand for revenge, but it is ok for thousands of spectators to boo Berdych for revenge?

All 3 acts are within the rules but terrible sportsmanship, but only Berdych was in the wrong?

 

[chatt_town]

Most of the time either several things happen, the guy gets both feet planted under him and just passes the guy, or the he attempts to pass him and the ball gets vollied back but you never hear anything about it. I remember seeing Fed last year I think about take Nadal's balls off right at net and Nadal vollied it right into the open court. My son and I laughed for 2 days about that. So Berdman has not issues here. He is a professional tennis player. He certainly should be able to volley a ball from that distance. He got handcuffed...shake it off(pun intended...he he) and move on.

If this is a "high percentage shot", why don't we see players go straight at their opponents in these situations more often (not to say AT ALL)? That's right.

Almagro got what he deserved and I'm very happy he lost.

 

[kOaMaster]

berdych for worst volleyer on the tour?
seriously, this is just crap he's doing there.

 

[dsa202]

There should really be a fine for this...