duaneeo
Legend
And without the YE#1, and without the 13 weeks at #1, and without the multi-slam finals, and without the multi-Masters titles. Hardly in the company of Andy Roddick.
Berdych is so underrated
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And without the YE#1, and without the 13 weeks at #1, and without the multi-slam finals, and without the multi-Masters titles. Hardly in the company of Andy Roddick.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
The more times I see this thread title the more it frustrates me. Berdych was simply just "there." Didn't do anything to move the needle and should not be remembered for more than being there.
10 years from now:
"Remember Berdych, he was in the top 10 forever."
"Yeah, he was there."
10 years from now:
"Remember Berdych, he was in the top 10 forever."
"Yeah, he was there."
jasonbrown
Rookie
Which just shows what an underachiever he is given his immense talent.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Immense talent is stretching it lol.
jasonbrown
Rookie
He has some beautiful smooth easy power. He certainly has more talent than Wawrinka or for a real laugh Cilic who have achieved more. More talent than Roddick and too I think. He did not wind up better than those guys, but that shows his mental weakness and how he underachieved as others have said. So much potential, not realized, just sad.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Hard disagree. Don't think he's as talented as any of those guys. Guy was a clean ballstriker but that's kinda it, his serve was meh for his height and he was a decent mover but not the best mover at his height either.
jasonbrown
Rookie
Even Cilic?
NatF
Bionic Poster
Cilic maybe even mentally weaker than Berdych, I think when on he was more unplayable than Berdych - serve and movement was better.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Berdych's clean ballstriking is definitely something special and for that he is one to be remembered. But he didn't have anything else going for him, it was just the clean ballstriking. That is why he never "deserved" a slam win imo. In contrary to some other posters, I actually don't think his movement was decent or acceptable for his height. His movement was outright atrocious and by far the #1 reason why he couldn't hang with top players in baseline rallies. He would be leading rallies with powerful baselineshots, until he got one shot a few meters from where he's standing and he totally loses control and is literally stumbling to get the ball back into play. Compare that to Djokovic who can run corner to corner and play back the ball just as well as when you hit it right in his direction.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
@Federer and Del Potro former dad
jasonbrown
Rookie
I think Cilic is fairly tough mentally, even if not great. IMO the only time she showed major mental weakness was the Australian Open final vs Federer where he could have won that day but got nervous and fell apart in the 5th set. Other than that he is quite tough mentally. Well that and the way he usually folds when he plays Djokovic, but that is a country and shadow thing, Wawrinka folds nearly everytime he plays Federer, Ferrer and many Spanish guys with Nadal, so I wont judge him too much for that. I also dont judge his poor performance in the 2017 Wimbledon final since it is clear he was visibly injured (he was never winning that particular match anyway, but I dont judge his weak play that day on mental weakness, he was visibly hurting, only a big fighter would push through to still play very well).
I do think Cilic is mentally tougher than Berdych which isnt saying much. When 2 of their big potential career opportunities came up at Wimbledon 2014 and U.S Open 2014 who came up big for their match against each other to keep that chance alive?
brian anderson
Semi-Pro
Stan has more big titles; case closed
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