Best advice for anyone playing tennis more than 1 hour per month

It's easy to say restring that often. But everyone forgets, RESTRINGING TAKES TIME. If you do it yourself, that's atleast an hour for an amateur stringer. Giving it to a pro shop for restringing that often is exhorbitantly expensive.

None of us are ATP professionals here. Just play with them until they break, or you find the performance to have dropped considerably.
 
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WilPro said:
If you play tennis at least 1 hour per week.

Buy the string you can cut the most often. Buy a stringing machine and cut strings as often as possible. Your arm will love it.

For example Pro's Pro Blackout is a great string and very cheap.

You should cut any poly or co-poly after 30 min and no one should play any poly or co-poly for more than 1 hour.

If you use Natural gut/poly hybrid, cut it after 1 hour. No one should play any string for more than 2 hours, even natural gut should be cut after 2 hours of play.

If you think you like old strings, you need a psychiatrist. Then you come back home, check the tension you like, go low because that is what you love in old strings.
And then string after every 30 mins of play.
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Why? IMO, this is a bad advice unless someone is sitting with lot of time and cash. Or if you are a pro.

Where I play, the reality is different. Average club players don't even know what strings they have. Play for months/year and restring when it breaks! Tournament, school/college players usually restring after 20 to 30 hours or when the strings break.

My advice for average Joe is to buy a super arm friendly racquet like Prokennex and string it with your favorite poly or hybrid and play until it breaks!
 
kailash said:
Where I play, the reality is different. Average club players don't even know what strings they have. Play for months/year and restring when it breaks! Tournament, school/college players usually restring after 20 to 30 hours or when the strings break.
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I know those morons. One of them tried my racquet the other day and was super impressed by my racquet, didn't have a clue it was the string. I am really sorry for them.
So, if even a moron can feel the difference, it means you should restring it to get that great feel. How often? As often as it is needed to keep that feel.

Also had a co-worker that said in his younger days he was a promising junior but then he got a serious shoulder injury that is still a problem. Asked him about his strings, tension and so on. Poor moron had no clue.

Just keep telling people to play with a string until it breaks. It will help them a lot. Great piece of advice to ruin their love for tennis and their health.
You should rather tell them to try a different sport, it would be a better advice. At least it won't affect their health, possibly for the rest of their life.
 
Similar experiences here. I string a number of club players, they have no idea of what strings they hit with, bring in their racquet when string snaps, be it 1 , 2 years or longer, and say they want same set up, glad the string lasted as long as it did.I tell them it will hit different, and that they should string more frequently after 14-18 or so hours if poly strings, as tension loss and loss of strings properties, and that falls on deaf ears, and they bring it back again when broken. Now you say to restring after an hour, that is just not being realistic for the club hitters at least in my area.I don't even do that for myself, as Nat gut does hit well for me until it breaks, as I hit with a quality gut.Yes it looses tension just like any string, but it's properties of resilience and elasticity makes it still very much playable, especially when strung at high tensions.My brother I hit with, former D1 player, hits all gut high tension hits until string snaps, and that's a good number of hours, no arm issues same as me.
The USRSA when they do a string playtest, all racquets once strung are measured sbs with RDC when removed from machine and then 24 hours later without being hit. This number is typically compared to psg original, strung at 60 lbs. PSG has approx. a 9% loss after 24 hours with no hitting at all, and others are compared to that number, some less, many are higher percent.That should not mean that if you string and not use racquet in 24 hours you should restring it because of tension loss.
You can certainly get carried away with equipment, most thoughts should be with form and technique, and not over think equipment.
 
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Why? IMO, this is a bad advice unless someone is sitting with lot of time and cash. Or if you are a pro.

Where I play, the reality is different. Average club players don't even know what strings they have. Play for months/year and restring when it breaks! Tournament, school/college players usually restring after 20 to 30 hours or when the strings break.

My advice for average Joe is to buy a super arm friendly racquet like Prokennex and string it with your favorite poly or hybrid and play until it breaks!
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WilPro said:
I know those morons. One of them tried my racquet the other day and was super impressed by my racquet, didn't have a clue it was the string. I am really sorry for them.
So, if even a moron can feel the difference, it means you should restring it to get that great feel. How often? As often as it is needed to keep that feel.

Also had a co-worker that said in his younger days he was a promising junior but then he got a serious shoulder injury that is still a problem. Asked him about his strings, tension and so on. Poor moron had no clue.

Just keep telling people to play with a string until it breaks. It will help them a lot. Great piece of advice to ruin their love for tennis and their health.
You should rather tell them to try a different sport, it would be a better advice. At least it won't affect their health, possibly for the rest of their life.
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I don't know who to call morons. People with too much idle time and money or who don't care about their strings and just play. I know some of them are playing with an year old string and are perfectly healthy! I told them long back to change, but they told the strings are just fine and no arm issues.
 
kailash said:
I don't know who to call morons. People with too much idle time and money or who don't care about their strings and just play. I know some of them are playing with an year old string and are perfectly healthy! I told them long back to change, but they told the strings are just fine and no arm issues.
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I agree with that.
Many club players in my area I string for only replace strings when they break and no arm or other issues. Many are older players as well.If the players developed health issues by not changing strings every hour of play, there would be no members remaining in our club to hit , as they would all have issues.
There are many things to consider, not just the strings, as there is flex of racquet, proper grip size, tension of strings, weight of racquet, proper technique. Maybe it's just in my area players can play with strings longer than an hour and have no issues? Possibly there are more morons in my city?
 
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My hand is so happy with it and I can afford it without too much of an effort. I can buy a string reel whenever I want. Sometimes I buy them out of pure curiosity and if I don't like them I give them away as gift to friends of mine. Never bought strings by set, always by reel.

I will always remember when a friend of mine hit with my Babolat pure Drive some years ago and was amazed by the feel of it and by how easy hitting with it was. Even a few days ago he asked me what I did with that Babolat. I sold it long time ago. And it just happened to have fresh new string while his racquets usually have strings that stay there until they break.

I don't have a big salary compared to others who work in software development but it's a good monthly pay and if I can afford that, why not. I don't spend my money on a brand new car, or a new phone, or other things other people consider normal. I spend all my money in things that make me really happy and tennis is one of them. Then guitars is the second one. If something makes me happy I give up everything else. And you can be sure I am the happiest man in the world.

I own no car at all and I bought the cheapest phone possible but I spend all I can in tennis and guitars.
 
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WilPro said:
I will always remember when a friend of mine hit with my Babolat pure Drive some years ago and was amazed by the feel of it and by how easy hitting with it was.
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I remember when a friend of mine hit with my Head Radical with full bed Klip Gut strung at 63 lbs, it was about 6 weeks or more with good number of hours , string was even fraying. He commented how comfortable the hit and the power. He then became one of my Nat. Gut customers and hits with full gut. That was long time ago as well.

I can afford any string and restring any time I need to, but I only restring my Nat gut once it snaps.Since I hit relatively old school style eastern forehand grip flat style my strings last a great long time, sometimes for a good number of weeks. I can string relatively fast as I started stringing over 50 years ago, but have better things to do than spend time restringing a racquet that does not need to be strung.
If I restring them at every 2hours as you recommend, I would be restringing just my own racquets 2-3 times per week. I think not.
I am getting to the point where I am going to cut back on stringing for other people as well. Sometimes I get home from work and someone leaves 4 racquets on my front bench with a note needed by tomorrow morning. Next day 4 or 5 more racquets to string up after working all day .I was use to stringing just a few per week, and not really making a business of this.I am getting too many at times that my free time allows.I am getting to the point that I only have so much free time . I can't imagine if my customers all decided to have their racquets all restring after only one hour of hitting.I guess I would recommend to those to get their own machine if that would ever happen.
I even had one player come back three weeks after I strung his racquet complaining that string broke, he probably had 15 or more hours on it. Showed him why it broke, as it snapped on top near grommet evidently from shanked shot.You think that guy would be persuaded to have his poly string replaced every hour of play? Not very realistic in the real world to say the least.
 
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Hitting for an hour and a half today confirmed that 90 minutes was simply too long for strings to sit in a racquet. After only 2 minutes my fresh strings had already gone completely dead. I think I’m going to start restringing mid practice to make sure I never experience this again.
 
Doubles said:
Hitting for an hour and a half today confirmed that 90 minutes was simply too long for strings to sit in a racquet. After only 2 minutes my fresh strings had already gone completely dead. I think I’m going to start restringing mid practice to make sure I never experience this again.
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Re-string two dozen racquets before practice. Switch every two minutes
 
@WilPro: Which stringing machine do you use? manual, lock on? constant pull?
Where did you learn to string?

It makes a big difference on the result.
 
of course, that the best is always the best .. but you have to know how to be a reasonable minimum.

if we take things to the extreme ..
the pros always choose the best balls to serve. the most new. if I conclude quickly, the newest balls are the best, and will be the absolute best for playing the best tennis.
this is how!

tip (limit a bit stupid): use the balls only once, to serve, and play the point. once used (for a single point!) change it .. take a new one! ..

if we analyze this advice, nobody will ever be able to say the opposite. It is obvious that a new bale will always be better than a used ball, even used from a point. let's not even talk about a ball that has been hit 10-15-20 times! ..

demonstration by the absurd, playing with a brand new ball that has never been played will always be better than playing with a ball that has played 5 minutes, 15 minutes or 1 hour !. but who can afford to change the balls at each point? nobody, of course! ..

however, it will be good on the best absolute ball, since as we can see, the pros always choose the most new ball to serve! ...

so try it, you will see that playing with a brand new ball, never played, is the best you can do.

nobody will be able to contradict me on this point of view, except that it is absurd .. as enormous as having to cut your natural gut after an hour .. even if it is indeed the best in the world ! because it's just stupid! ..
 
WilPro said:
Then guitars is the second one. If something makes me happy I give up everything else. And you can be sure I am the happiest man in the world.

I own no car at all and I bought the cheapest phone possible but I spend all I can in tennis and guitars.
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Which type of guitars do you have? Do you own Martin D42, D45, etc? I own a Martin D28 made in 1945 and the guitar cost around 50K USD.
 
I decided many years ago I would not play with a string I wasn't content to play with until it broke. I also decided I didn't want to string more than every couple of weeks at the most. I've found there are quite a few softer polys I am happy to play with until they break. I just broke a string this past Saturday and had to pull out the backup stick that had been sitting in my bag for several weeks untouched. It felt so close to the one I had just broke that the only difference I actually noticed was the edges of the strings being sharper.

I guess if you're so feel oriented that you have to have something like ALU that has a special kind of feel for the first 30 - 60 mins and you are willing to pay the money for it then it might make sense to string really often, but for a regular syn gut or typical poly or something, I can't see the point personally. Just find a string that plays decent until it breaks. Seems like a much simpler solution to me.
 
Kevo said:
I decided many years ago I would not play with a string I wasn't content to play with until it broke. I also decided I didn't want to string more than every couple of weeks at the most. I've found there are quite a few softer polys I am happy to play with until they break. I just broke a string this past Saturday and had to pull out the backup stick that had been sitting in my bag for several weeks untouched. It felt so close to the one I had just broke that the only difference I actually noticed was the edges of the strings being sharper.

I guess if you're so feel oriented that you have to have something like ALU that has a special kind of feel for the first 30 - 60 mins and you are willing to pay the money for it then it might make sense to string really often, but for a regular syn gut or typical poly or something, I can't see the point personally. Just find a string that plays decent until it breaks. Seems like a much simpler solution to me.
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@Kevo do you have any good suggestions for soft poly. Right now I am using Tourna Silver 7 Tour but not sure how soft it is, but I like the way it plays.
 
Kevo said:
I decided many years ago I would not play with a string I wasn't content to play with until it broke. I also decided I didn't want to string more than every couple of weeks at the most. I've found there are quite a few softer polys I am happy to play with until they break. I just broke a string this past Saturday and had to pull out the backup stick that had been sitting in my bag for several weeks untouched. It felt so close to the one I had just broke that the only difference I actually noticed was the edges of the strings being sharper.

I guess if you're so feel oriented that you have to have something like ALU that has a special kind of feel for the first 30 - 60 mins and you are willing to pay the money for it then it might make sense to string really often, but for a regular syn gut or typical poly or something, I can't see the point personally. Just find a string that plays decent until it breaks. Seems like a much simpler solution to me.
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it's strange what you say. my younger brother and I (we are less than a year apart) and we have always played with the same rackets. (when we were 16 and 17 years old, our parents bought us a set of 4 identical rackets (L1), put two overgrips on him, and for me only one, and we thus played with the same rackets with the same tensions.

Even today we sometimes can interchange the snowshoes, we have voluntarily changed our strings and tensions, with some slight differences.

yesterday afternoon, I was at the club, to get some fresh air, and without my stuff. (I always have a pair of shoes in the car, but the snowshoes never stay because of the heat).

my brother and a couple of friends were playing together, and they were looking for someone for a double, so I took one of my brother's snowshoes, who plays prince lightning XX / max power kirschaum at the crossroads. I took a racket at random, whose rope barely broke after 5 minutes, the S-gut was practically worn. and then I took another racket with new strings. after 10 minutes, it played practically like the other string. (my brother breaks about every 6 hours), the kirschaum hold the tension very well, and for me, just before breaking the string was still playing perfectly well. (for the moment I cannot say because I play my rackets in an alternative way, all at the same time, (with a small notebook or I note the hours played, to be able to cut the line after 13-15 h, according to the poly ).

So, I fully agree with you on certain strings which once stabilized (after 15-20 minutes) becomes very stable in terms of playability and tension resistance.
 
I agree the first 2 hours with new poly is pretty magical. But I don’t want to be hunched over a stringer all the time, so I restring after 10-12 hours. Anything after 12 hours is super harsh.
 
Happi said:
@Kevo do you have any good suggestions for soft poly. Right now I am using Tourna Silver 7 Tour but not sure how soft it is, but I like the way it plays.
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I've heard good things about Silver 7 Tour, but haven't tried it yet. It's on my short list when my current reel is up. Right now I'm playing Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable at 50/38lbs. It's muted and fairly soft with excellent spin. I am dubious about another string taking it's place for me, but I have a few I'm going to try. One thing about different polys is there is a fairly wide range of tension they play well at. So I might like one poly at 50lbs, but another poly at 50lbs is not so good, but that poly might play really well at 42lbs. That's one reason I don't like to try too many polys when checking out new strings. I might need to string a particular poly 3 or 4 times before I find the best tension for that poly. It also can take a while to find out if a particular string will maintain it's play right up to breakage.
 
Kevo said:
I've heard good things about Silver 7 Tour, but haven't tried it yet. It's on my short list when my current reel is up. Right now I'm playing Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable at 50/38lbs. It's muted and fairly soft with excellent spin. I am dubious about another string taking it's place for me, but I have a few I'm going to try. One thing about different polys is there is a fairly wide range of tension they play well at. So I might like one poly at 50lbs, but another poly at 50lbs is not so good, but that poly might play really well at 42lbs. That's one reason I don't like to try too many polys when checking out new strings. I might need to string a particular poly 3 or 4 times before I find the best tension for that poly. It also can take a while to find out if a particular string will maintain it's play right up to breakage.
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You are absolutely right, I also need time to find the correct tension. I really like the Silver 7 Tour at lower tension, as it holds tension really well you can string lower, I am at 42/40 on Angell TC100 and I might go even lower next time. I have a set of Ultra Cable, so I might try that out I guess at the same tension as S7T. I have matched frames so I can play side by side.

Thanks @Kevo
 
WilPro said:
..., it means the natural gut lost a lot of tension, 7 or 10 kg at least. And all those guys telling you: "natural gut is not losing tension", "it keeps tension forever", "you should use it until it breaks", don't have a clue what they are talking.
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I observed that with SM. The SM numbers on gut/poly always go down eventually stop going down at about 30/30 from SM.
 
weelie said:
My Crossfire ZX works well from me until it breaks. After like like 50h. Prestretched, but still loses some tension from the 1st hit to the 2nd.
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According to my log, SM number on ZX on a string bed continues to drop. It kept dropping.. continuously as my hours played. I believe it is a weak string. i.e. low tensile strength.
 
Doubles said:
To be honest, one hour is too long. You should bring your stringer to the court and restring every other game for the best results.
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To ensure consistent tension perhaps it's best to restring after one groundstroke.

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Scrap that.
To ensure consistent tension, don't use the racquet at all after restringing.
 
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WilPro said:
To sum this up: You have to know when your things are trash and throw away your trash. This is essential in life.

If your tennis balls turned into trash, throw away your trash, don't play with dead balls. If your string is trash, throw away your string.
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This kind of attitude is while we'll never solve climate change. Using things until they break is really the best choice in a world that's being destroyed by over-consumerism.

I'll hop of my soap box now.
 
The funny thing is when I was just getting back into tennis, I tried out all sorts of different strings. This felt like this but then it turned to this in this much time. So on an so forth.

I really believed that I needed to cut out my strings and re-string every 10hrs because of how much of a difference the strings played.

But it wasn't until I saw my son play with poly and et al, that I could quantify it a lot better. His strokes are so consistent with great form. Any changes in the strings can be seen in his play. He'd be nailing all his baseline and then all of a sudden, he'd start to miss a few long. Shortly thereafter, his strings would break.

We got to a point of determining about how many hours his strings would last, before it started impacting his play (not break). We would cut out and re-string at that point.

So now he plays with gut/poly. And he hits with it until the gut breaks. Sometimes it's 10hrs. Sometimes it's 20hrs. But it plays consistently enough that it doesn't greatly impact his game. Now, there may be small variations as strings get worn, but unless it was a major tournament he was entering, we don't change our routine.

Back to me. I don't have my son's technique nor consistency. I blame my errors on my equipment. While I can see slight degradation in my string performance, it's offset by my own lack of skill and consistency. I will play my gut/poly for at least 20hrs. Many times I'll go over that. And then somewhere between 2 and 3 months, I'll cut it out and re-string. And it plays crisper and with a bit more bite.

Since this is rec tennis, I think the slight variations are acceptable. I have my mountain bike hobby that eats up my time as well. It's more critical to bleed my brakes, keep my drivetrain clean, and make sure my tires are set and inflated properly. So if I'd rather spend the 45min I need to string racquets to play tennis, ride my bike, or do bike maintenance.

But if tennis is your only passion, and you have a lot more time to re-string than to play, then restring after every play if that is part of your enjoyment of the sport.
 
WilPro said:
If you play tennis at least 1 hour per week.

Buy the string you can cut the most often. Buy a stringing machine and cut strings as often as possible. Your arm will love it.

For example Pro's Pro Blackout is a great string and very cheap.

You should cut any poly or co-poly after 30 min and no one should play any poly or co-poly for more than 1 hour.

If you use Natural gut/poly hybrid, cut it after 1 hour. No one should play any string for more than 2 hours, even natural gut should be cut after 2 hours of play.

If you think you like old strings, you need a psychiatrist. Then you come back home, check the tension you like, go low because that is what you love in old strings.
And then string after every 30 mins of play.
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Wow you string a lot, most don't have the frames or stringer availability to do this. Also not even the pro's cut that often so I doubt any rec player needs to. I play 2-4 hours a week and I typically pop my strings every 1.5-2 weeks. I use a hybrid RPM Blast and NXT Comfort (50-52). The only person this much stringing is good for would be the stringers wallet.
 
wata load of crap, man. cutting n restring new bed every hr...........omfg eyes on the balls n use ur legs+body weight, man, no need only focusing on ur string or rkt. if hurt/disappointed/te/ge-ed don't blame the strings/rkts, man..........

spend time/effort/$$$ on the fundamentals b4 worrying strings/rkts, man:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D...................

but if u'r enjoying cutting/restringing instead of ball striking, well dat's purely personal preference n enjoy it. understandably not every1's the same:love::love::love::love::love::love::love:.................
 
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TTW is great because you’ll find such interesting characters. Restringing after an hour and patching string jobs all in the same thread. You love to see it.
 
Doubles said:
TTW is great because you’ll find such interesting characters. Restringing after an hour and patching string jobs all in the same thread. You love to see it.
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lolololololol man, full spectrum of varieties w/ extremely polarized definition of 'tennis'.............

felt horrible n sleepy during ao as no hitting only watching bcs of the heat n smoke from the fires even 00s km away. also dropped 1.5kg + no appetite + 1 hr off from my quality sleep.....................need to get back on track asapo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O.....................
 
Well, I played last week, tried to keep a string for more than one hour and I found myself struggling to keep the ball into the court. I played two hour with Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour and after one hour it was a torture trying to keep the ball inside the court. I shouldn't have done that. It was so awful. I'll never do that ever again.
 
WilPro said:
Well, I played last week, tried to keep a string for more than one hour and I found myself struggling to keep the ball into the court. I played two hour with Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour and after one hour it was a torture trying to keep the ball inside the court. I shouldn't have done that. It was so awful. I'll never do that ever again.
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If you lose so much control after only an hour of play it means that you have not strung correctly. This is why certified stringers exist
 
Wacos said:
If you lose so much control after only an hour of play it means that you have not strung correctly. This is why certified stringers exist
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More likely lack of fitness and technique. Unless he's 6.0+ and his 90mph groundies are going long by 3-4 inches, it's not the 1 hr old strings.

Hell for most rec players a good unit turn and keeping their eye on the ball is much more important than fresh strings.

I'll wait for a vid of OP to determine why he starts missing after an hour.
 
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More likely lack of fitness and technique. Unless he's 6.0+ and his 90mph groundies are going long by 3-4 inches, it's not the 1 hr old strings.

Hell for most rec players a good unit turn and keeping their eye on the ball is much more important than fresh strings.

I'll wait for a vid of OP to determine why he starts missing after an hour.
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OP won’t post a video. That ruins the fun of this thread.
 
First people needed a photo. The photo came.

Now they need a video. The video will come soon.

Hopefully you guys will give me a lot of feedback. Over the course of the years I noticed that even the feedback I hated the most had some truth in it. And hopefully I will learn something from it.

Thanks a lot.
 
WilPro said:
Well, I played last week, tried to keep a string for more than one hour and I found myself struggling to keep the ball into the court. I played two hour with Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour and after one hour it was a torture trying to keep the ball inside the court. I shouldn't have done that. It was so awful. I'll never do that ever again.
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I hope you are kidding that after an hour of hitting you blamed the strings for your control issues. Trust me, it's not the frame or the string.
 
lololololol mate, seems bit upset n no need 2 b serious abt photos/vids unless when u watch those from fed nad noel stuff. even they don't restringing 1go/hr when training. even in $$$lam they only change rkt when sense the tension not right once settled dat rkt mostlikely last >1hr or change to new balls. time dat u'll find quite often >1hr between, dat's $$$lam sososo much stake on their string, lolololol manohman. what kind of stake on ur string:?)):-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D..............
 
WilPro said:
Well, I played last week, tried to keep a string for more than one hour and I found myself struggling to keep the ball into the court. I played two hour with Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour and after one hour it was a torture trying to keep the ball inside the court. I shouldn't have done that. It was so awful. I'll never do that ever again.
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I'll just echo what others have said on the assumption that your post isn't just trollery. If you can only play a string for an hour you're doing something wrong. Either you're not stringing properly or picking the wrong strings, or your play is changing and you're blaming the strings.

I've never seen anyone that can't get more than an hour out of an intact freshly strung set of strings.

I've seen a lot of people that go to the bench and pull out a freshly strung racquet thinking their strings are toast and then after 5-10 minutes of placebo high start playing exactly the way they were playing before. I've seen that with new racquets and shoes even. I've seen it from people that have even admitted in the past that's probably happening to them and they still do it.

Anyway, it's your time and money so you're free to do that if you want to, but I don't think you'll convince anyone that it makes sense.
 
smboogie said:
I hope you are kidding that after an hour of hitting you blamed the strings for your control issues. Trust me, it's not the frame or the string.
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Of course it was a joke. LOL!

I am changing strings because I am looking for the one an only setup that I will never ever change. So, I am trying a lot of things in this period.

I will open a different thread about strings and what I found most desirable and what I liked the most. ;)

Hahahahaha. It was funny as hell but I got tired of this.
 
tennishabit said:
yep the indian's always to blame, for op it's 'blame the indian not the bullet!' as the indian's not fast enough to meet his bullet n he always missed his target:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D........................
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These comparisons with the Indian and his bow and arrows are the most stupid comparisons ever made.

First and for most arches were different sizes and strength the most efficient were so strong that the archers using them had back issues and very bad back pain.
Then the arrows had different types of tips and different lengths and weights.

This also valid for the bullet. Why do you need a long rifle with a big bullet for a sniper? Because it is not the Joe that's pulling the trigger. Joe needs great equipment before being able to prove his artistic skills at pulling the trigger.
It is the shooter that matters the most but he needs the right weapon first.
 
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