Discussion in 'Shoes and Apparel' started by Imago, Nov 11, 2013.
They must be breathable, supportive and non-wearing.
Nike CB.s 4.3
For less supportive ones (i.e. I get pains on the balls of my feet on HC with them and they don't provide too much lateral support), you may want to try Asiscs GR5s.
Barricade 8 is my first suggestion, outsole alone lasts twice as long as CBs as that's not taking into account if the CBs lacing system or air bubbles fail.
Wilson Rush Pro is great, though not quite as breathable.
GR5 is definitely worth a look, but won't last as long as the others.
By GR you mean what? Cause I've got recently two pairs of Gel Rocket 6 and they are perfect in the first two paragraphs, but fail in the third.
Asics Gel Resolution 5. Great shoes, only weak point is the upper drag guard which is toast if you drag your uppers at all.
If durability is not an issue, the Asics Res 5 are the best. If durability is, then the CB 4.3's. The 4.3's a just a bit less comfortable but offer better support and durability. It's also heavier. The Barricade 8's match the 4.3's in all respects except Adidas's cushioning does not last as long as Nike's. So the Barr 8's might have tread left but your knees may already be aching.
How would you compare the fit of the Barricade 8 to the 4.3's? I went with the 4.3's from the Barricade 7's and liked them a lot better.
B8 is slightly wider, but if you preferred the 4.3 to the B7 I'd stick with them as the 8 feels similar.
Re midsole cushioning, Adi's is plenty resilient and I'll always put a hole in any shoe before it wears out.
what about Lotto Raptors?
And you didn't break the laces yet, especially after a couple of months when they start to give in and not provide as much support?
Disclaimer: I haven't tried B7, I'm stuck with a pair of B V (a tad clunky).
Having said all of that, CBs 4.3 work best for me overall, on hc, indoors, due to my weight (i.e. Asics GR5s may not have enough support, although they are very fast).
If durability is a non issue, Vapor 9s. If you want better durability and good support, CB 4.3s. If you want shoes that last a long time, barricades.
Lotto Raptor Ultra Speed IV. Best kept secret in shoes. Best shoe I've ever worn.
Didn't the TW play testers say the breathability was bad?
Here's what Michelle had to say:
The Lotto Raptor Ultra IVs have quickly become favorites of our male and female playtesters!
And I know Chris loves wearing Lotto!
I've been wearing them for a while and don't notice an issue with the breathability.
All the support and durability being even more important if you are very heavy and would like to move aggressively (I'm 220 lbs at 6'2").
I'm surprised no one likes Babolat Propulses. I switched to the Propulse 3 from the Barricade 7 and the CB 3.3, and couldn't be happier. The Adidas were hard on my achilles. The Nike lacing system drove me nuts as it would wear out prior to the shoes, and the 4.3s haven't fixed that problem.
I'm about to finish wearing through my Babolats at 5 months. Playing a fuller schedule, I suspect they'd have about 80% of the durability of the Adidas.
The upper is a "to each his own" sort of thing, as the Babolats aren't nearly as stiff as either Nike or Adidas offerings, but my game is based on quick changes of direction and I haven't noticed any loss of speed or support with the Babolats.
I recently switched from NB 804's to Babalot SFX and couldn't be happier. I have a wide foot so my options are limited. Plan on sticking with the SFX's until someone comes out with a high end shoe for wider feet.
I'm surprised these aren't getting more of a mention:
They fit my feet really good. The aeration isn't outstanding yes; but I know only the Feather 2CC that have excellent aeration. It didn't bother me. However if you tend to surpinate a bit, look somewhere else: the thread on the outer heel is quite thin.
EDIT: This said, after reading this infamous thread, I always wonder why shoes manufacturers always protect more the inside of the heel while shoes tend to be worn on the outer heel first. "To make money" okay, but then, why put a crazy amount of thread on the inside? Bar Yonex or Bab' where it looks about equal, it's the case on most shoes I've seen out there.
You guys are really making me want to try the Raptors.
After checking out this thread, and the TW review, I ordered some Raptors. These are simply great shoes. I only have one wear on them, but my initial impression is that they may be one of my 2 favorite shoes, along with the Gel Resolution 4. Great shoes with a lot of support and good cushioning.
After years of Nike and Adidas, I might be going with the "off" brand shoes of Asics and Lotto from here on out.
I would also like to put in a vote for the Raptors
About to order my second pair, now, TW, what's going on with the color ways??
I want another pair of the green ones, dammit!
Sigh, I just went and got another Nike CB 4.3 as a replacement under warranty, rather then the Raptors and you want to know why?
a) I forgot to ask you guys if the Raptors have the same traction as Barricades and CBs 4.3?
b) I have one experiment, still under warranty with the Asiscs GR5(some pain issue in the balls of my feet initially, we'll see).
c) I have another experiment, that's been going for a couple of years now with Barricades V- sometimes I use them on clay, but never on hard courts, as they feel too clunky.
i got a set of raptors today -- they dont fit me
ive used B7's for the past year and wore one set out in 6 mos but the others havent worn thru by the time limit -- i didnt think i had a "wide" foot the adidas fit me fine-- i know i dont have a narrow foot but after reading the description today the "slim to med" that the raptor is i must be a full medium
i wanted to try them-- i wonder if i go up a half size that will help.. they feel really nice but after 20 min walking around the house my outsides of foot were getting sore
since the b7 is being phased out i was trying to find an option that might be a slight bit lighter
The B8s are slightly wider than the B7s. Overall, the B7 is the best shoe I've worn though. I'd recommend the Asics GR5 too if you aren't tough on your shoe's uppers.
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