Best hybrid with SPPP 17 mains

TriggerHappy

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I recently strung my Ntour with SPPP 17 mains at 54lb and Wilson NXT Max 16 crosses at 60lb.

This combination has great feel and comfort, but unfortunately the mains are literally sawing through the crosses.

What other strings would work best with SPPP 17 mains and offer a similar level of comfort as NXT Max and last longer?

Would a synthetic string like Gosen OG Micro last longer than a multi in a hybrid application with SPPP?

Thanks for your responses.
 
For the upteenth zillionth time...MULTIS DO NOT last when used in hybrid with copolymers.

Please EVERYONE repeat after me...

"MULTIS DO NOT LAST WHEN USED IN HYBRID WITH COPOLYMERS."

"MULTIS DO NOT LAST WHEN USED IN HYBRID WITH COPOLYMERS."

"MULTIS DO NOT LAST WHEN USED IN HYBRID WITH COPOLYMERS."

The copolymers saw right through. If trying to add softness you can use a soft solid core synthetic. At TW these include Forten Sweet Syn. gut and Ektelon Power Play. There are even better choices for crosses, like LaserFibre Classic Synthetic gut and others that TW does not carry. You also may be surprised at the comfort offered by the copolys when used in a full stringbed with tension reduced.
 
They do last!! Long enough, that is. Putting a soft multi in the cross is a great idea to take the harshness off of poly. It takes a long time for a cross to break because of the physics of which strings rub the most (mains are way more prone to breaking, so putting an ultra thin poly in the mains solves this; ultra thin for better spin and feel, and since the cross will break first you can go thin). By the time the crosses finally do break, the poly's dead anyways so it's all good.

I'd recommend TF NRG2, 17 or 16g...
 
I recently strung my Ntour with SPPP 17 mains at 54lb and Wilson NXT Max 16 crosses at 60lb.

This combination has great feel and comfort, but unfortunately the mains are literally sawing through the crosses.

What other strings would work best with SPPP 17 mains and offer a similar level of comfort as NXT Max and last longer?

Would a synthetic string like Gosen OG Micro last longer than a multi in a hybrid application with SPPP?

Thanks for your responses.

Yes, the SPPP + Gosen lasts a long time. Actually now that I think about it, I had two hybrids with 1.23 SPPP and 1.22?? (17 g) Gosen and they lasted more for me than FULL SPPP. Go figure...
Not sure if I rotated the two rackets and used them EXACTLY the same amount of time ... but that hybrid is more than OK from a durability point of view.
 
I'll just throw this one out there...

Why not hybrid the SPPP mains with Babolat Tonic "Ball Feel" (16g) natural gut in the crosses?

Tonic goes for $24.99 a set, and SPPP is $8.90. Combined in a hybrid, you can string two racquets with this for $16.95 a pop... which is about the cost of a full set of a good multi, but it performs and feels so much better.

In my experience, I've used Tonic in the crosses and either Luxilon BB Alu Rough, Red Code, or SPPP in the mains, and the poly main has broken first (before the gut) in every case.
 
Yes, the SPPP + Gosen lasts a long time. Actually now that I think about it, I had two hybrids with 1.23 SPPP and 1.22?? (17 g) Gosen and they lasted more for me than FULL SPPP. Go figure...
Not sure if I rotated the two rackets and used them EXACTLY the same amount of time ... but that hybrid is more than OK from a durability point of view.

Funny, I am also moving towards SPPP pure 1.18 + OG 17 ... FXP Prestige MP here in Ploiesti ... DNX 10 in Cluj ?
 
Thanks folks for the replies.

Would natural gut crosses like Babolat Tonic last longer than the synthetic guts recommended in this thread. (Forten Sweet Syn. gut,Ektelon Power)
with SPPP mains.

Just trying to see if the natural gut crosses make the extra 10$ worth of a difference in softness/feel/durability.
 
I'll just throw this one out there...

Why not hybrid the SPPP mains with Babolat Tonic "Ball Feel" (16g) natural gut in the crosses?

Tonic goes for $24.99 a set, and SPPP is $8.90. Combined in a hybrid, you can string two racquets with this for $16.95 a pop... which is about the cost of a full set of a good multi, but it performs and feels so much better.

In my experience, I've used Tonic in the crosses and either Luxilon BB Alu Rough, Red Code, or SPPP in the mains, and the poly main has broken first (before the gut) in every case.
Thanks Jack, what racket and tension do you string your hybrids at ?

Am used to playing with full multis at around 60lb. I am trying to get a similar experience with hybrids with increased durability.

What tension would you recommend for SPPP/Natural gut to play close to 60lb full multi job ?
 
Thanks Jack, what racket and tension do you string your hybrids at ?

Am used to playing with full multis at around 60lb. I am trying to get a similar experience with hybrids with increased durability.

What tension would you recommend for SPPP/Natural gut to play close to 60lb full multi job ?

I use the Prince Warrior OS, and I string both the mains and the crosses at 67 lbs. I understand that this is pretty tight, but this is a 107 square inch frame with a 16x19 pattern, and I hit fairly hard with a lot of topspin. Therefore, higher tensions give me the crisp response and control that I like, particularly with this pattern. (I should also mention that I've weighted this frame down with lead at the 3 and 9 positions, so it plays more head heavy than a normal Warrior. This is supposed to be harder on strings, but for some reason, this racquet does not saw them up like I've experienced with other racquets.)

Natural gut retains tension very well (probably the best of all strings) and is very resilient, so I would string it at 60 lbs if that is what you like. The SPPP retains tension well for a poly, but due to it's relative stiffness compared to a multi, you might want to drop the tension 2-5 lbs.

As to your question about the durability of gut, yes... natural gut will outlast and be more durable than a similar gauge multifiliment or synthetic gut. It will also retain it's playability much longer... pretty much until it completely frays and finally snaps. However, in my experience (as I mentioned previously), when used as a cross, the natural gut outlasted the 17g co-polys I've tried. Maybe I've just gotten lucky with the Tonic. However, I've also used Prince TopSpin and Technifibre X-1 Biphase for crosses with poly in the mains, and in those cases, the crosses always broke first.

Several others have mentioned using Gosen in the crosses. While I have not used this myself, I would be remiss not to mention that two of my friends use this for their cross strings in a hybrid, and they love it. Both of those guys never spend more than $10 for a set of string, but they claim that the Gosen is just as good or better than any other synthetic or multi for a cross. (However, I'm not sure what they are comparing it to because they're both too cheap to try natural gut or a high end multi... to each his own. Play what works best for you!)
 
Funny, I am also moving towards SPPP pure 1.18 + OG 17 ... FXP Prestige MP here in Ploiesti ... DNX 10 in Cluj ?

Yup, although I'm currently giving the MSpeed 98 SL an extended go. I'm also about to receive a few Volkl Tour 10 Gen I's, but from what I've read they swing just as heavy (if not heavier) as the DNX Mid, so those might get sold if that's true.
The prestige is a good frame, although I usually have to modify the Head grips to be able to play effectively with them.
 
Have used this too, with no problems. The Gosen Micro crosses work well with other polys as well, and don't get sawed thru.

Yeah gosen is great for hybrids...with my SPPP 17L and Gosen 16 hybrid the poly mains snap after 3-5 days...gosen looks untouched.
 
3-5 days and the poly mains snap first? do other poly mains snap first as well?

Yeah...the signum notches becuase it is soft and I use the 17L...ALU lasts much longer for me but plays like crap after 2 hrs. It seems strange but the syn gut just seems to notch the poly through..

Nick
 
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