LeoFulgencio
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do these two feel similar in the hands and in weight? I see very few direct comparisons to the differences between the Kneissel and the Adidas GTX.
Only difference is in the balance by ~5mm.



do these two feel similar in the hands and in weight? I see very few direct comparisons to the differences between the Kneissel and the Adidas GTX.
I bought both the Matrix and Reflex in high school back in maybe 1989 or so. They were both department store frames that cost maybe $25 each. I preferred the Reflex because it has PWS where the Matrix didn't. There was no bumper guard so the white paint would scrape off and leave black graphite exposed which I didn't like. I probably put some Gamma Guard tape on the head back in those days. They were both good hitting frames but I definitely liked my POG 90 better.For the first time in about 2 months, the thrift gods were smiling upon me. Picked up these for under 10 each. I think the Wilson Reflex might be my favorite paint job of the Wilson Midsize mold, a quick search of it pulls up some threads where people talk highly of this model. Unlike a lot of other Midsizes from Wilson, this one merely says "Graphite" at the top and says nothing about its material percentage. Anyone know?
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Next up is a racket I nearly spent 35 for on the auction site. I've tried the octagonal Bosworth frames before, now time for this Foxy Frame to get some court time.
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So usually you see a racket labeled as a "Graphite + blank" ingredient layup. This thing is like "lets just use everything we got in one frame" It's a "Graphite+Boron+Fiberglass+Composite" Surprised they didn't tack on Ceramic for good measure.
I too have been burned by picking up what looks to be a great stick in a thrift store only to spot a crack in the frame. Hurts me deep inside.Had two "Close Calls" this weekend.
1st Gen Babolat APD+ ..... Picked it up excitedly and found it was cracked in the head.
Head Prestige Classic 600 .... Excited, but then saw the worn grommets, big chips, no grip and cracked pallet.
Passed on both.
Equally frustrating, I’d say, is finding a racquet cover or case for something rather special (i.e., St. Vincent-era Wilson Pro Staff mid, Prince Boron, etc.) with no racquet corresponding to it. We search all over for the racquet, hopeful we’ll find it, but to no avail.I too have been burned by picking up what looks to be a great stick in a thrift store only to spot a crack in the frame. Hurts me deep inside.
Alright, I brought out the Fox to hit with today. I’ll make a video and post it just for you!@kevin qmto I am interested in your take on the Fox WB-215. Let me know how it hits. I've seen people string the racquet like normal and skip the throat part. The way the throat grommets are designed, looks like it can be strung either way.
What did you do to deserve such good karma?!Scored a pristine 1983-vintage Max 200g (with equally pristine-looking Babolat head tape on it!), and a nice Prince Magnesium Pro 110 this afternoon; $2.99 each, with original covers!
Still some good ones out there…
Careful pulling that tape off!!Scored a pristine 1983-vintage Max 200g (with equally pristine-looking Babolat head tape on it!), and a nice Prince Magnesium Pro 110 this afternoon; $2.99 each, with original covers!
Still some good ones out there…
If the PS125 is still there, I think you should buy it at that price. If you don't subsequently like it, I'll be delighted to offer you $30 plus shipping to the UK if it's in good condition.Passed up on a PS 6.0 125 this weekend for $10. Never saw one in person before. Very nice condition but can’t imagine doing anything with that beast. Had to be an odd one to use back in the day. Place also had some POG 110s but those were $30 each.
I think that’s a prototype or demo prerelease for the accounts to hit with before it was released.Posted this in the rackets section hoping I'd get some help identifying it, but anyway today I bought some kind of Head prestige flexpoint racquet on "offer up" it has a glossy black paint job and cap grommets, the pallet is marked TL 82 but the grommets are marked TK 57 B. It has flexpoints but it also has the liquidmetal bumps at 8/10 and 2/4. Not sure if it's a pro stock or just a prototype but it's pretty cool.
https://ibb.co/rpMmtsK
Posted this in the rackets section hoping I'd get some help identifying it, but anyway today I bought some kind of Head prestige flexpoint racquet on "offer up" it has a glossy black paint job and cap grommets, the pallet is marked TL 82 but the grommets are marked TK 57 B. It has flexpoints but it also has the liquidmetal bumps at 8/10 and 2/4. Not sure if it's a pro stock or just a prototype but it's pretty cool.
https://ibb.co/rpMmtsK
The copper Ace actually gives a percentage (60% graphite, 40% fiberglass), but the Encore does not. I’m guessing it’s going to be different given the slightly heavier frame.Guessing 60% graphite 40% fibreglass (i.e. 30% graphite, 20% fibreglass, 40% epoxy) like many of the other PK made models for Wilson, Prince & Dunlop etc.
Wow Henry! Just wow! That Max159G is mint!Before covid, the first days of Wimbledon were productive times for a racket collector to be doing the rounds of the charity shops in South West London. Last year was unsurprisingly fallow in that regard and my expectations were accordingly low as the first shop opened its doors to my eager face this morning.
While there was still precious little stock on offer relative to most previous years, this was made up for in variety, with some real curate’s eggs in among them.
After going for a stroll down Worple Road to look at the old pre-1922 home of the tournament (now a local school’s sports ground), I picked up this lovely Max 150G in Wimbledon for a tenner:
I found this Head Genesis 660 (regrettably the IDS version) for a fiver in Church Street. As someone who wielded the Ventoris with varying degrees of success in the early nineties (ie sometimes I couldn’t keep the ball in the same court, at others I couldn’t even keep the ball in the same postcode), I was ever so jealous of the sapphire-blue Genesis which then clocked in at an eye-watering £200. With this behemoth now in my possession, Mars Rovers better watch out for my next mishit…
Just across the road, I found this extremely scarred Fischer for a tenner. If there were ever any decals to identify the model name, these long since lost their battle with the asphalt this racket has been scraped across. Maybe an early Matchmaker?
In Hammersmith, an early Midplus Head Graphite Pro in great nick:
Great looking 150G. The perfect training stick.Before covid, the first days of Wimbledon were productive times for a racket collector to be doing the rounds of the charity shops in South West London. Last year was unsurprisingly fallow in that regard and my expectations were accordingly low as the first shop opened its doors to my eager face this morning.
While there was still precious little stock on offer relative to most previous years, this was made up for in variety, with some real curate’s eggs in among them.
After going for a stroll down Worple Road to look at the old pre-1922 home of the tournament (now a local school’s sports ground), I picked up this lovely Max 150G in Wimbledon for a tenner:
I found this Head Genesis 660 (regrettably the IDS version) for a fiver in Church Street. As someone who wielded the Ventoris with varying degrees of success in the early nineties (ie sometimes I couldn’t keep the ball in the same court, at others I couldn’t even keep the ball in the same postcode), I was ever so jealous of the sapphire-blue Genesis which then clocked in at an eye-watering £200. With this behemoth now in my possession, Mars Rovers better watch out for my next mishit…
Just across the road, I found this extremely scarred Fischer for a tenner. If there were ever any decals to identify the model name, these long since lost their battle with the asphalt this racket has been scraped across. Maybe an early Matchmaker?
In Hammersmith, an early Midplus Head Graphite Pro in great nick:
Yeah, I believe Copper Ace is super flexy and fiberglass is slightly lighter than graphite.The labels on my Copper Ace racquets state 40% graphite and 60% fiberglass.
Yeah, there are definitely some other rackets from the Taiwan mid-80s stock that have 60 and 80 in their names, and when you dig into the specs you find they're 60% or 80% graphite. Seemed to be the standard gradation. I feel that these mid-range rackets were just churned out in different paintjobs to feed individual market segments. Might have been country specific or even retailer specific. Still great full-weight frames with amazing quality leather grips. I'd be tempted to remove that grip carefullly and put it on a modern stick.The copper Ace actually gives a percentage (60% graphite, 40% fiberglass), but the Encore does not. I’m guessing it’s going to be different given the slightly heavier frame.
The Ghost and Goddess (Deesse)…? Gosh, how weird racquet design was getting in the early 90’s! The Donnay does look like the tennis racquet equivalent of Kim Kardashian’s derrière, and should be the butt of post-hitting clubhouse jokes; or, alternately, a strange Belgian design made of sausages, the (snicker) wurst piece of tennis equipment I’ve seen lately.
I hate you!I thought I had cured my addiction
I think so. If in good condition. Look on the bay. I was surprised. I had walked to my car and then went back for them after a quick look on that auction site. I then looked at my daughter and said, "Don't tell Mom. I'm going to buy those racquets." I knew her mother was going to find out because she does the finances.I hate you!But congratulations anyway. I haven't been in a thrift store looking for a racket for a long time as the pickings are pretty slim in the "tennis" desert I live in. I told myself I was going on a racket buying moratorium for year but that resolution was short lived as I am waiting for a
Gamma F.9 Diamond Fiber OS just to run it against my Head 107s.
I used to snag a neat racket every once in a while in the local thrift shops, once a very nice Chicago Pro Staff, but I gave up looking a couple of years ago. Now I am going to have to look around again. I do know a guy who has a "pile" Asian K90s. Are those worth serious money too?
Don't bother with me concerning that POG 90. I traded my 4 4-stripes to the guy who has the Asian K90s. I had 5 more of various vintages. We did a 22 for 22 racket swap several years ago. He got a pile of Princes and I got a pile of very interesting mostly late model rackets, which I ended up giving them all away. Right now I am kind of warming up to the idea of acquiring a couple Babolat PD Cortex Teams and one more APD Cortex Team. That Team weight is a nice mass to add a bit here and there if one wants to but in my case I can swing them a bit faster/easier than my standard PD and APDs, all Cortex. It is hard for me to look in the mirror and say I like the PD and APD with a straight face, but I do.I was thinking of you earlier b/c that POG is a 4 1/2.
That Graphite Pro you have is a first addition American 1986 Graphite Pro. For the model year 1987 it was changed to turquoise, added ceramic to the layup and made famous by David WheatonOk. I thought I had cured my addiction and I had given away or sold many of the racquets I’d acquired.
I freely admit I’m a flipper. I don’t have any intentions of collecting. I only sell to either make money (1st priority) or get into the hands of a collector.
These last few I’ve paid a premium for. I’m not even ashamed….
At Play It Again Sports I’ve found an early 4 strip POG 90 that’s likely on its first string job. Has a 4 1/2 grip where the leather was removed, a grip sleeve was installed, and it had gauze tape over a deteriorated black gooey mess. I’ve now removed that stuff down to the pallet. It’s a solid 8/10 frame with great bumper and grommets and just a few blemishes (chip or scrape). I paid $21 but I had used this very racquet for close to 30 years. I’m not burley enough these days but I’ll likely put a grip on it and give it a go.
I also bought a Yonex Rexplay 440 that is strung and in like new condition. I cannot find a single blemish. I’ve never in my life hit with a Yonex. I’m almost ashamed to have written that. This one needs an overgrip because the actual grip is dry and hard. I’ll try not to touch the court. It’s nearly perfect! I paid $13.
The two expensive ones cost me $130 for the pair. I know! I know! My wife knows too!!!! I picked them up on Friday and sold them yesterday for $500 plus shipping for the pair. They were in fabulous shape. Wilson K90 Tour racquets (340g version). My wife stopped complaining….
What else?
Oh I picked up a Prince Hybrid Hornet O3 that had a broken string and a split portion of the bumper. It had head tape on it and is a solid 8/10. I paid $3.50.
@retrowagen
I’ve got a 4 5/8 Head Graphite Professional 89.5 that says Mid-Plus and is black with some gray stripes and red accents. Do you know this one? I think I paid $15 for it. Grommets are cracked and it’s a bumperless frame; only grommet strips. It also had head tape used on it so aside from the tape residue, it’s in very good condition.
Dang those K90 racquets pulled me back into the thrift search game…. Ugh!!!! I thought I was cured!
I’ve also found and sold to local kids some Babolat Pure Drive Lite frames.
That racket is from 1989. Dunlop’s first line of widebodiesAlright, I think I've been cheating recently by going to Play it Again Sports, so here's a honest find from a Goodwill. For $3.67 tax included I picked up this Dunlop Max Impact Mid. It's not a museum piece, and it was unstrung, so I put in some Gamma Livewire 17 @55lbs. Will hit with tomorrow. These were made when, early 90s right? Anybody use em?
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what the hell is sorbothane anyways?
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Dat constant taper yo. Constant Beam's are for suckas right?
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