Red Rick
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Nobody mentioning Simonfils. Never forget the Monfils jumping forehand he hit in that 3rd set at 15 or 16 Wimbly
Best match of 2010-2019 is...
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It's not easy to see a complete murrovic match; I literally fall asleep during their wimbledon final on 2013.
Anyway I remember their shanghai matxh on 2012, it was very good you are right.
Phoenix1983
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Possibly top 10 of all time. Laver-Rosewall 1972, Borg-McEnroe 1980 and Nadal-Federer 2008 all stand out as greater in historical importance, just off the top of my head.
Oh wait - your name is King No1e. Of course you'd say that about a Novak Djokovic match.
King No1e
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Funny you say that, considering most people voted W018 SF, which Djokovic also won. If I was such a blind Djokobitch, I wouldn't be complaining.
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Over 90% of people voting for Djokovic-Wawrinka are Federer fans. Federer fans who want to exclude Nadal from this category and have so little objectivity that they vote a match of Wawrinka (?) over the classic masterpieces of Nadal and Djokovic.
Wawrinka is an inferior player than Nadal or Federer. Therefore any good match of Djokovic involving Fedal is superior to a Djokovic-Wawrinka match. The AO 2012, RG 2013 or WB 2018 matches achieved a much higher degree of playing level and historical relevance than the Djokovic-Wawrinka match, as Wawrinka cannot match Nadal's playing level or historical relevance.
Nadal having chances to defeat the AO GOAT Djokovic in THE LONGEST GRAND SLAM FINAL OF ALL TIME has a much higher historical relevance than Djokovic beating a non-ATG like Wawrinka in a random AO 4R. The AO 2012 final has much more historical relevance than the AO 2013 SF.
Djokovic having chances to defeat the most dominant player ever on a surface in the RG 2013 semifinal implies a much higher historical relevance than Djokovic beating a non-ATG like Wawrinka in a random AO 4R. The RG 2013 semifinal has more historical relevance than the AO 2013 SF.
Nadal and Djokovic producing a marvellous shot-making battle in the Wimbledon 2018 semifinal implies a substantially higher degree of historical relevance than Djokovic beating a non-ATG like Wawrinka in a random AO 4R. The WB 2018 semifinal has more historical relevance than the AO 2013 SF.
And to suggest that the AO 2013 4R has a better level of tennis than the AO 2012 final, RG 2013 SF or WB 2018 SF is just trolling to eliminate Nadal from the best match category. Nadal is a superior player to Wawrinka on any surface and obviously produced a higher level than Stan in those matches.
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Wawrinka is an inferior player than Nadal or Federer. Therefore any good match of Djokovic involving Fedal is superior to a Djokovic-Wawrinka match. The AO 2012, RG 2013 or WB 2018 matches achieved a much higher degree of playing level and historical relevance than the Djokovic-Wawrinka match, as Wawrinka cannot match Nadal's playing level or historical relevance.
Nadal having chances to defeat the AO GOAT Djokovic in THE LONGEST GRAND SLAM FINAL OF ALL TIME has a much higher historical relevance than Djokovic beating a non-ATG like Wawrinka in a random AO 4R. The AO 2012 final has much more historical relevance than the AO 2013 SF.
Djokovic having chances to defeat the most dominant player ever on a surface in the RG 2013 semifinal implies a much higher historical relevance than Djokovic beating a non-ATG like Wawrinka in a random AO 4R. The RG 2013 semifinal has more historical relevance than the AO 2013 SF.
Nadal and Djokovic producing a marvellous shot-making battle in the Wimbledon 2018 semifinal implies a substantially higher degree of historical relevance than Djokovic beating a non-ATG like Wawrinka in a random AO 4R. The WB 2018 semifinal has more historical relevance than the AO 2013 SF.
And to suggest that the AO 2013 4R has a better level of tennis than the AO 2012 final, RG 2013 SF or WB 2018 SF is just trolling to eliminate Nadal from the best match category. Nadal is a superior player to Wawrinka on any surface and obviously produced a higher level than Stan in those matches.
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I firmly believe it has to be Djokovic-Nadal W 18 SF. No question about that. AO12 may have been as dramatic or may be more but quality of W 18 match was unreal. Had everything in that match. Great serving from Djokovic, droppers after droppers from Rafa, screaming Forehand DTL winners from Rafa and clutch play from Djokovic. The way Djokovic started in first set, it looked like that he would end it all very soon. But Nadal clawed back and then at the end of 4th all the momentum was with Nadal and yet he could not finish.
Only shame was that closed roof in a glorious summer weather and which may have had more decisive say in outcome of the match then anything that Nadal and Djokovic did.
Only shame was that closed roof in a glorious summer weather and which may have had more decisive say in outcome of the match then anything that Nadal and Djokovic did.
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Nadal-Med USO 19 match is vastly underrated though it is growing in stature each passing day and would keep on growing. It is "Fight club" movie of Tennis matches which grows on public with time. Quality of that match 3rd set onwards were outstanding. Whenever you feel low, go and watch the game where Med broke Rafa to steal 3rd set. With the kind of shots Med hit, nothing Rafa could have done. He brought it all together and pummeled ball using every ounce and inch of his body. The way both the players used tennis brain and kept changing tactics through out the match, should be taught in classrooms of military schools as lessons for tactical warfare.
This match will end up being a classic like Nadal Verdasco AO 09, more so if Med goes on to become an ATG.
This match will end up being a classic like Nadal Verdasco AO 09, more so if Med goes on to become an ATG.
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NatF
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Oh shadap.
ForehandRF
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This has nothing to do with Nadal, it's about personal taste after all.2018 WB SF for me is a close 2nd.I disagree with 2012 AO having better level of tennis than the 2013 AO SF.Djokodal AO was on the slowest courts I have ever seen in Melbourne and it was too much about baseline grinding instead of shot-making.I would rather watch the highlights of the 2010 & 2011 USO finals because those were more entertaining for me.
ADuck
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I'm a 100% Nadal fan actually. Don't know what made you think I'm not.
Djokovic/Wawrinka is just a good contrast in styles. I put WB2019 a second, FO2013 third.
AO2012 is just a painful experience though. Nadal was getting stretched left and right like a ragdoll for almost all of the match. I remember yelling at the TV "WHY DOES NADAL HAVE TO HIT SO SHORT," and then accepting the outcome when Djokovic had 3 BP's in the fourth set, not like he deserved to win playing like that. Then, the least expected thing happened. This guy miraculously saves all the BP's and then later takes the set. Suddenly Nadal was up 4-2 in the fifth. "How the ****.. how the **** is Nadal this epic?" Unfortunately, the answer was that he wasn't.
Djokovic wins fifth 7-5.
Rips of his shirt off and roars
Me after 6 hours:
Thanks a lot djokoman for getting my hopes up.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
You only represent 1% of those who voted for the option. My point is still valid.I'm a 100% Nadal fan actually. Don't know what made you think I'm not.
Djokovic/Wawrinka is just a good contrast in styles. I put WB2019 a second, FO2013 third.
AO2012 is just a painful experience though. Nadal was getting stretched left and right like a ragdoll for almost all of the match. I remember yelling at the TV "WHY DOES NADAL HAVE TO HIT SO SHORT," and then accepting the outcome when Djokovic had 3 BP's in the fourth set, not like he deserved to win playing like that. Then, the least expected thing happened. This guy miraculously saves all the BP's and then later takes the set. Suddenly Nadal was up 4-2 in the fifth. "How the ****.. how the **** is Nadal this epic?" Unfortunately, the answer was that he wasn't.
Djokovic wins fifth 7-5.
Rips of his shirt off and roars
Me after 6 hours:
Thanks a lot djokoman for getting my hopes up.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
The RG 2013 SF obviously had a much higher degree of tennis quality than the AO 4R between Djokovic and Wawrinka. We are talking of Djokovic pushing the most dominant player on a surface at his favorite Slam. Many consider the RG 2013 semifinal the best clay match. We can't say the same of the Wawrinka-Djokovic match, which is not even close to be the best hard court match ever. The same principle applies to the WB 2018 SF, which also had higher quality. Not to mention the fact that the Djokovic-Wawrinka match lacks historical relevance as it was a 4R and most casual tennis fans already have forgotten the match. People who started following tennis recently will know of the classics like Laver-Rosewall 1972, Borg-McEnroe 1980, Sampras-Agassi 1995, Nadal-Federer Wimbledon 2008, Djokovic-Nadal AO 2012. But the AO 2013 4R? That is not a classic.
But if everything is subjective and a matter of "personal taste", then can I say that the Roland-Garros 2019 semifinal between Thiem and Djokovic is the best match of the 2010s decade?
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ADuck
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But bruh, how can I be 1% when less than 100 people voted for it?
Sport
G.O.A.T.
It is a way of speaking, obviously you took it too literal. My point is that very few people voting that option are not Federer fans.
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junior74
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Stan is my #1 man, and I love his match-up with Djokovic so much
The best matches are not always those involving the best players playing against each other. This year's AO final is an example.
AO12 final is not my favourite tennis. People have different tennis taste.
Djokovic - Del Potro Wimbledon 2013 is a classic. Better than for instance 2014 Wimbledon final IMO.
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wang07
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Just voted Djokovic-Wawrinka 2013 AO. To say that the match of the decade can include ONLY Big3 players is utterly delusional. We are not only looking at historical relevance here, we just have to pick one match that was the "best" by level of play/quality, entertainment AND importance combined. Now, I'd rather not get into the level of play and entertainment because the match speaks for itself, and yes, 2013 AO R4 might be less important than the other mentioned semis and finals, but it's still a historically important match.
That was when Stan stepped up, and this match made Stan become a serious Slam contender, almost out of nowhere. Stan is not an ATG, but he is one of the most successful players of this decade.
He was already knocking the door, playing on fire, but he was denied by Djokovic, who was incredibly clutch. The contrast in styles, the matchup itself, the fighting spirit by both and one of the best displays of offensive and defensive tennis at the same time makes it the match of the decade for me. And excuse me, I'll pick it any day over a 6 hours grindfest. 2012 AO is overrated, the only reason it's better than the embarrassing 2012 USO final is because it was a Djokodal match. Djokodal matches by level of play, 2010 USO final and 2018 Wimbledon SF are both WAY better than 2012 AO.
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ADuck
Legend
Okay, fair enough
ForehandRF
Legend
Nothing is clear cut and even the players themselves can see matches differently in terms of quality.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
The premise that the Djokovic-Wawrinka AO 4R has the highest level of the 2010s is highly debatable, if not laughable. But even if we (for the sake of the argument) accept that premise... what about historical relevance? Not everything is level of play, historical relevance plays a role. Otherwise, the AO 2009 SF between Nadal and Verdasco would have a strong claim to be the greatest tennis match of all time, as it showed the most spectacular defensive skills in a tennis player with Nadal at the peak of his velocity saving those missils from Verdasco. But it can never be considered a GOAT match candidate, because it has not so much historical relevance (even though it is considered a top 20 of all time).
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junior74
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OP says BEST MATCH in title, then GREATEST MATCH in the poll. That's a problem, right thur.
So my vote for Djokrinka 2013 stands as best, but far from greatest, of course. OP should make up his mind.
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G.O.A.T.
Best and greatest are dicitionary definitions. I think we are considering everything: quality and historical relevance.
If we separate both concepts (quality and historical relevance), the highest quality would be for the RG 2013, WB 2018 or the AO 2013 while the biggest historical relevance would go for the AO 2017 or maybe WB 2019.
But, as best and greatest are dictionary definitions which mean the highest quality and eminence, we should consider both quality and historical relevance.
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mike danny
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Or maybe I just prefer a match where thete is at least one attacking player involved rather than 2 grinders.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
You just described my feeling after Wimb 2019.I'm a 100% Nadal fan actually. Don't know what made you think I'm not.
Djokovic/Wawrinka is just a good contrast in styles. I put WB2019 a second, FO2013 third.
AO2012 is just a painful experience though. Nadal was getting stretched left and right like a ragdoll for almost all of the match. I remember yelling at the TV "WHY DOES NADAL HAVE TO HIT SO SHORT," and then accepting the outcome when Djokovic had 3 BP's in the fourth set, not like he deserved to win playing like that. Then, the least expected thing happened. This guy miraculously saves all the BP's and then later takes the set. Suddenly Nadal was up 4-2 in the fifth. "How the ****.. how the **** is Nadal this epic?" Unfortunately, the answer was that he wasn't.
Djokovic wins fifth 7-5.
Rips of his shirt off and roars
Me after 6 hours:
Thanks a lot djokoman for getting my hopes up.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Nadal was equally, if not more attacking, than Wawrinka in the Wimbledon 2018 SF. Nadal approached the net 50 times and made multiples winners both with his forehand and backhand, as well as beatiful drop-shots. Djokovic was serving extremelly well, being solid from the baseline and his defensive skills (specially his impressive passing-shot in the crucial break point) were mind-blowing. Also, you forgot the lack of historical relevance of a 4 R match. It cannot be compared to the historical relevance of a Slam SF or final.
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wang07
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So where do we draw the line? That's the only issue here really, would we put a lower quality match(!) above another just because it's more important in historical terms? Then, at least for me, the "best match of the decade" would lose or at least degrade it's meaning. To me a R4 slam match could be considered the "best", if the quality is high enough.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Still less historically relevant than AO 2012, WB 2018, RG 2013, AO 2017 or WB 2019.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
We should look for the match which has the best equilibrium between quality and historical relevance. Otherwise, we could claim the AO 2009 SF match to be the best of all time, but that would be ridiculous, given its lower historical relevance compared with other matches.
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Who knows, maybe if Djokovic destroys Wawrinka at 2013 AO then he goes on to win 2014 AO, 2015 RG (6 slams in a row?), 2016 UO and 2019 UO.
Most important match ever, if you look at it this way
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Historical significance doesn't equate to quality.
I do like the Wimb 2018 SF. I don't like the AO 2012 final.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
We should consider both quality and historical relevance to determine the best match. In other words, we should consider an equilibrium between quality and hsitorical relevance. Otherwise, the AO 2009 SF would be a GOAT match candidate, which is not the case because it lacks historical relevance compared with other matches.
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HetTheGreaterer
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Did you check my post before generalizing me, bro??!!
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G.O.A.T.
I checked it right now. Your post is magnificent. I agree with all your choices for drama, quality and historical relevance. I just believe that the best match should have a perfect balance or equilibrium between drama, quality and historical relevance. With a relatively low historical relevance (compared with other matches), I consider that a match cannot be considered the best of a decade.
mike danny
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AO 2009 SF was arguably bettet than the final.
pedro94
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As a Nadal fan, even though it was probably the biggest heartbreak since AO 2014 final, I voted for 2018 Wimbledon Djokodal SF... That match just had it all, incredible shotmaking, Rafa coming to the net over 50 times and producing some mind-boggling drop shots, both players tied on 73-73 winners and 42-42 UE's (has that ever happened before?? 
), back and forth momentum, clutch Djokovic play in the 3rd set tiebreak (still can't get over that missed opportunity), marathon 5th set with another incredible Djokovic clutch performance on the BP's... I could go on and on about this match, even though I was seriously depressed after it for at least a week 
Definitely the best match of the decade for me, even though RG 2013 Djokodal SF, AO 2017 Fedal F and 2013 AO Djokorinka 4R are serious contenders for that title as well!
), back and forth momentum, clutch Djokovic play in the 3rd set tiebreak (still can't get over that missed opportunity), marathon 5th set with another incredible Djokovic clutch performance on the BP's... I could go on and on about this match, even though I was seriously depressed after it for at least a week Definitely the best match of the decade for me, even though RG 2013 Djokodal SF, AO 2017 Fedal F and 2013 AO Djokorinka 4R are serious contenders for that title as well!
ADuck
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ibbi
Talk Tennis Guru
From these I would go with AO13 or WI18, but my outright favourite might be Gasquet-Wawrinka from Roland Garros 13. 5th set of the 2017 Australian Open is my favourite single set of the decade, with honourable mentions to the third of the 2011 and 2013 USO finals and the third of the Del Potro-Nadal 2016 Olympics match.
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Dimitrov-Nadal 2017 Australian Open SF 
Highest quality tennis match I've ever seen.
Highest quality tennis match I've ever seen.
weakera
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That was an absolutely monster performance from Stan.
HetTheGreaterer
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A perfact mixture of all these is almost non existent.
That's why I categorized and put one or two matches in the category I thought they'll fit best into.
And for voting, I went for AO13 purely because of the quality of ballstriking and tennis in that match. Not because fan bias (and if you know me for a while, you know that I do not hate bull)..
HetTheGreaterer
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Another 15-40 saved by nole (on serve though)
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Indigo
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Decade starts at 2011 and finishes at 2020. 1 to 10, 11 to 20, 21 to 30, etc are decades. Year 2000 was the last year of 90s and second millennium. Or to make it simple for you. When you're born, it takes a year to your first birthday, from 0 to 1. There are another 9 birthdays to your 10th birthday, i.e. total 10 bdays in your first decade of life, 1 to 10.
Lew II
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In what decade did the first 365 days of your life go?
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HetTheGreaterer
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* In what decade did the first 365 days of your life go?
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