ByeByePoly
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Dude is a warrior!!!
@Injured Again makes me look like the incredible wuss I am ... don't appreciate it.
Best multi for a poly player
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@Injured Again makes me look like the incredible wuss I am ... don't appreciate it.
ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
I have never been a gym guy ... if not at home not happening (at least for long). I am working out now ... watching taped AO.
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markwillplay
Hall of Fame
Velocity is not meant to be strung really high. I use it and it is indeed better for my arm than any synthetic gut I have played. I did not get along great with that head spiraltek or whatever it is either. It actually aggravated my arm. Velocity in low 50s in Tt100p or mid fifties in my c10 Pro
Happi
Hall of Fame
Velocity is a great string, I string at the same tension in my TT100P as you do. But for my liking Velocity string moves too much too soon. I like the visual of the black Velocity in the TT100P but the white plays better IMO, I only played the 17g versions.
GeoffHYL
Professional
Haven't tried Isospeed Professional Classic yet. I'm not a string breaker, so I don't restring that often, but I do have a couple of racquets that need stringing, so I could order some and have it strung up. When I compare it to Spiraltek the tension loss is a lot more, so I would probably string it higher than Spiraltek. Spiraltek also has a much better spin potential rating than the Isospeed string. How would you rate spin for the Isospeed string?
VacationTennis
Semi-Pro
Don't forget about Wilson Sensation, it's super super comfy, and cheap compared to the NXTs and Xcels of this world. I went from Ultra Cable, Hyper-G, and PTP right to Sensation thinking it was going to be horrible. It wasn't it was a great fun string that you can learn to rip with. Sometimes keeping it simple just works!
bfroxen
Rookie
If you hit hard with spin and want a multi for comfort, Tecnifibre Multifeel is the best I’ve found. Durability isn’t great (was ~6h with 16x19, now ~9h with 18x20), but you can’t have everything. At least for me, the crosses wear instead of the mains, so the mains are able to snap back until it breaks. Never need to straighten the strings.
GeoffHYL
Professional
I have a set of Multifeel. May string it up in my Tec DC 315 LTD 18x20 and see how it plays. Any recommendation on tension?
JackSockIsTheBest
Professional
damn... you are very much injury prone my fellow poster!
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
Holy crap ... you are stupid. I have no idea how you get past the hamstrings ... I no longer trust mine and just tore each once.
I fixed it for you...
I was playing a 4.0 league match and at that time I had a pretty wicked kick serve which I got to bounce extra high by jumping up into the motion from a platform stance. This was probably around 2005 or 2006, when I was in my middle 40's. Then on one serve, my hammy tore in my right leg. Defaulted the match and rested it for a few weeks. Went back to playing and about a week in, lunged and landed on that leg while pretty stretched out and popped it again. Rested some more weeks and was doing hamstring curls, and popped it a third time on the weight machine.
Took a month or two off, healed up, and went to sportsmed PT, who said I was imbalanced in the way that I athletically moved, causing extra strain on my right hamstring. Went through the process of retraining the way I moved, which was really helpful, but then not long after I popped my **left** hamstring running after a ball. Healed up from that in a couple of months, and then as it got colder, ended up popping both hamstrings at least once or twice more.
This was about the time I realized that I needed more time in the gym if I wanted to continue playing. I dedicated an hour doing strength and flexibility for every hour to 90 minutes on court. It's something I continue to this day, which is why I think my physical decline has been less than others my age. It has let me catch up to many of them, and just being physically capable has let me continue to work on improving my game.
But the hamstring tears were awful. I even tore my lat once, trying to hit that same kick serve.
"I think if I had your past level of skill and tournament experience, I wouldn't be taking this so badly."
Two sides of that ... good memories and satisfaction of a lot of work and losses eventually rewarded. BUT ... having to laugh now on the court at the drop in level. Four of my friends ... all very successful 4.5, 5.0 and age group were playing doubles and one blurts out "what game are we playing, certainly isn't tennis".
I ran into another tennis friend yesterday I hadn't seen for a couple of years ... he is probably 65 now. I knew he quit tennis several years ago, mainly to avoid knee surgery, but turns out he tore both hamstrings and one calf. That is exactly my count.
OK ... this thread did not cheer me up.
Sorry about that!
At our club, most of the older guys are still going strong. I can only think of one 4.5 player that had to quit the game due to a shoulder problem. Most everyone else is still playing, even with joint replacements. I'm the primary organizer of a band of about a dozen brothers age 58 and up who get together to play singles, and we have multiple courts going every weekday morning. Everyone plays hard and though there are some injuries like my wrist, we all heal up and come back for more, and nearly everyone is 4.5 level or higher.
I guess I thought this was pretty typical, but maybe we should all count our lucky stars that we are still able to do what we do.
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
I use S7T as a full bed. @blai212 encouraged me to try it with a thin gauge Pro Poly Plasma as a cross but I found that reduced the crispness to a level that I didn't enjoy. If you like S7T but wanted a softer bed, Pro Poly Plasma is a good string to try. I have found that S7T responds pretty similarly over a fairly wide range of tensions, retaining a crisper feel when swinging hard even when tensions are low and the comfort level goes up. I think that's why I like the string so much. The slight tension loss it has doesn't alter the feel and I have consistency from right off the stringer until about an hour before it breaks.
I do have a set of Irukandji but haven't tried it yet. I've heard it is a cushioned string that also allows for a lot of string movement, maybe even more so than SPPP. Maybe if the wrist needs an extended period of time with a softer setup, a hybrid with Irukandji could be the way to go. But I'm honestly pretty lazy which is why I tend to always string one piece - it seems like too much effort to cut and measure two pieces of string. That's pretty silly and dumb, but my laziness really knows no bounds.
I'll keep the Isospeed and RIP Control in mind if multis are in my future. Thanks!
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
When the last of my half-dozen Babolat Overdrive 110 racquets broke and I had to switch, it was a several month ordeal to find a racquet and string combo that I felt I could really mesh with. I'm really amazed by players who can have different racquets in their bag and use them interchangeably. I don't have that kind of skill or ability to compensate, and I just really don't see how anyone can if they are rushed to the point where a swing has to happen instinctively. But because I had such a tough time switching, I think I'd be more inclined to just shut it down fully if the wrist isn't good.
That being said, I strung this racquet up recently and it is incredibly plush and forgiving:
Poly string with proportional tensioning but averaging in the middle 40's. The sweet spot extends from about the third cross string on the top to the third cross string on the bottom, and is very wide near the tip. This is the racquet I could probably most easily play with if I had to switch to something more comfortable. It's almost a vibrationless impact feel with what seems like an incredibly long dwell time, but the ball still ends up going where I think it's going to go.
I'm not sure what that says about me, or about how strangely my SW104 must be set up that I could switch to this racquet.
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
Totally agree. I know many of the guys my age have been told by their doctors that weight is the enemy of staying athletically healthy, but I also don't feel athletically capable if I don't do significant resistance training. I'm currently about 88 kg/195 pounds and just under 6 feet tall so I'm way heavier than my tennis peers. I don't think I've found that good balance between being light and strength training yet.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
I bumped into him Sunday night. He was pretty pumped up about his winnner's paycheck.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
I played him tonight. He doesn't hit very hard, but he is excellent counterpouncher. I enjoy playing against him because he is very mentally tough and I need to play patiently with long points and strong mental focus against him.
bfroxen
Rookie
I've gradually been reducing tension and am now at 47/44 in a MG Radical MP.
SteveI
Legend
Read that one about 5 years ago. Worth reading for anyone hitting 50 years of age.I have never been a gym guy ... if not at home not happening (at least for long). I am working out now ... watching taped AU.
ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
Our Wed night permanent indoor court time doubles for years was made up of players 45-65+ (the oldest guy now 80 still playing with both knees replaced). On any given Wed ... there might be 4-5 artificial knees on two courts of doubles.
Battle until they drag you off the court sir ... I am a new fan.
I did quite a bit of Googling on hamstrings at the time of my injury ... the link at the bottom was my thread with good input from others. I think you can do "everything hamstring rehab" at home.
How soon can you massage hamstring injury
I watched a youtube video where two pt guys were saying to massage the injured area pretty soon after injury. I just ordered a foam roller off Am@zon. I'm at 11 days, and walking better with only occasional grab/cramp. I rolled the spot over a tennis ball a couple of days ago. It felt better...
tt.tennis-warehouse.com
ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
I have never been a gym guy ... if not at home not happening (at least for long). I am working out now with the tv remote ... watching taped AO.
This was deceiving ... I have fixed it above.
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ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
Played it for years ... the vast majority of my club friends and USTA teammates did. Wife still does ... don't even "go there" suggesting she try something else. The one advantage V has over Sensation based on how Sensation played (years ago for me ... I have no idea if it had changes) is for me is V plays pretty much the same until it breaks (20ish hours). I remember the first two weeks of Sensation being great ... and then a little deader until it broke.
It isn't one of the most popular strings ever for nothing.
ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
When the last of my half-dozen Babolat Overdrive 110 racquets broke and I had to switch, it was a several month ordeal to find a racquet and string combo that I felt I could really mesh with. I'm really amazed by players who can have different racquets in their bag and use them interchangeably. I don't have that kind of skill or ability to compensate, and I just really don't see how anyone can if they are rushed to the point where a swing has to happen instinctively. But because I had such a tough time switching, I think I'd be more inclined to just shut it down fully if the wrist isn't good.
That being said, I strung this racquet up recently and it is incredibly plush and forgiving:
Poly string with proportional tensioning but averaging in the middle 40's. The sweet spot extends from about the third cross string on the top to the third cross string on the bottom, and is very wide near the tip. This is the racquet I could probably most easily play with if I had to switch to something more comfortable. It's almost a vibrationless impact feel with what seems like an incredibly long dwell time, but the ball still ends up going where I think it's going to go.
I'm not sure what that says about me, or about how strangely my SW104 must be set up that I could switch to this racquet.
That is a racquetball racquet.
markwillplay
Hall of Fame
I find the velocity 16 gauge does not move as much as 17 in my sticks. The 17 black moved much more than the 16 yellow that I use. FWIW.
markwillplay
Hall of Fame
I used to play multifeel too. Been a long time. I might have to try that and compare to Velocity. Velocity locks up but still plays pretty well for me and I hit hard and use a good amount of spin. Gives me just as much as Isospeed Cream and I like the sort of rubbery feel. I have always liked that but I know many do not.
2nd Serve Ace
Hall of Fame
At some point isospeed cream got pegged as a cross string, which it does reasonably well. But try it as a main and I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
JustTennis76
Hall of Fame
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The two strings that come to my mind are Head FXP and Head Rip Control. Both offer great control and the feel is unique. You can put some smooth poly in the cross and you will have close to full poly control but with better feel and comfort.
the problem is cream is a round poly and as such will lack the bite of a shaped/textured poly in mains, hence, why it is much better suited as cross string. I never really liked the metallic feel of cream. Volkl cyclone tour is much better. Soft, spinny when fresh, and good ball pocketing, I like my VCT hybrid setup better than natural gut hybrid in terms of power/spin/comfort/durability/tension maintenance...thats saying a lot.
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Orion
Semi-Pro
Sounds like you've got a TFCC tear. Get a MRI ASAP. Sharp stabbing pain on the ulnar (outer pinky) side of wrist. It started to mess with my timing, footwork and confidence. Doctors kept telling me it was arthritis and telling me I wasn't a spring chicken. I took the internet into my own hands [emoji23] and self diagnosed myself when the pain became unbearable.... Dr. kept taking Xrays and giving cortisone shots. I would rest for a few weeks, feel better, play pain free for an hour tops then the pain would creep back and my game would go straight to hell.
It was impossible to use a poly and not feel it, plus I couldn't swing out. I went to a full bed of NRG2 or NRG2 in mains, with a synthetic or Black Magic in crosses.
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It was impossible to use a poly and not feel it, plus I couldn't swing out. I went to a full bed of NRG2 or NRG2 in mains, with a synthetic or Black Magic in crosses.
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Injured Again
Hall of Fame
He definitely earned it. He had a sore knee after his first Saturday morning match and had to come back in the afternoon to play the semis and then the finals the next morning. He was pretty clearly the best mover of the group that I saw, despite being probably the tallest player in the field.
All of the guys play a very control oriented game. None of them try to hit the ball like I do so I feel like if I can get it all together and stay healthy, I'll have a pretty unique game at this age group. Hopefully, unique is good!
We still need to get together for a hit one of these days!
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
That is a racquetball racquet.
But it is an amazing racquetball racquet! Seriously, the sweet spot is probably a good eight inches in length and very wide at the top where the frame is wide. It is hard to mis-hit with this frame and the poly gives it control.
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
First article that came up with a search was this:
TFCC tear: Symptoms, treatment, surgery, and recovery
The triangular fibrocartilage complex (TFCC) is a network of ligaments, tendons, and cartilage in the wrist. Injuries to this structure are called TFCC tears, and they can cause pain, swelling, and limited movement in the wrist. Treatment options include splints or casts, physical therapy, and...
www.medicalnewstoday.com
It definitely sounds like I had an injury in this area. Fortunately for me, it seems to have healed up with the days of rest. I hit yesterday morning for 90 minutes with minimal discomfort and even used a fully poly stringbed for the last half hour. I did catch a couple of forehands high on the stringbed that didn't feel good but there's no resulting pain. I'm resting it fully today even though I have full range of motion with no discomfort, and will try to gradually ease back into it.
This TFCC issue sounds like it could be the cause for a lot of wrist discomfort issues for many players. Thanks for bringing it to my attention - I think I definitely have to make an appointment with a specialist to ensure I'm 100% good to go before I go full throttle at it again.
Injured Again
Hall of Fame
Quick post-mortem. As I said in my previous post, a few days of rest, combined with heat/ice and wrist mobility exercises, seemed to have let it heal back up. I am having no symptoms and am able to bench press and barbell curl with no pain.
I never did get to try a multi and I've received the pack of Velocity that I ordered. I believe I've been accepted as a playtester for the new Dunlop string and my set should arrive on Monday so if my hit tomorrow goes well, I'll probably go straight from the PSGD to that string since I still haven't finished with testing the Confidential in my other racquet (I only have two and am waiting to see what the next gen of my racquet turns out to be before buying more).
The PSGD was surprisingly low powered and controllable. I was expecting a much softer stringbed and my increase in string tension of about 12% over what I used for full poly was too much. I would have been better off with about a 5% increase, and that probably would have given me a more injury friendly feel. As it was, PSGD was good at hitting the ball with a relatively flat swing trajectory. Directional and length control were good, with a consistent but low launch angle, and it seemed to hold tension pretty well. PSGD muted some of the harshness when I mis-hit but there was still a considerable amount of shock if I caught a ball near the frame. What PSGD didn't do well was to spin the ball. Heavy topspin or underspin swing trajectories had the ball feeling as if it slid off the strings. Skimming topspin shots went nowhere - most of them barely would reach the net unless I altered my swingpath and racquet head angle. Heavy underspin attempts would float high and long. Volleys were point-and-shoot, without having to worry about what spin the ball had. After about 90 minutes of fairly gentle use, it looks like it will break within the next 90 minutes.
As I said earlier, I used to recommend this string at moderately high tensions to players who were newer to the game or had a flatter type strokes and I think I was wrong to do so. I'm going to reach out to some of these players and see if they had bad experiences, and restring their racquets for them if they did.
I'll get around to trying Velocity, probably right after I'm done testing the Confidential string. I'm super curious how close reality is to where my perceptions are of that class of string.
I never did get to try a multi and I've received the pack of Velocity that I ordered. I believe I've been accepted as a playtester for the new Dunlop string and my set should arrive on Monday so if my hit tomorrow goes well, I'll probably go straight from the PSGD to that string since I still haven't finished with testing the Confidential in my other racquet (I only have two and am waiting to see what the next gen of my racquet turns out to be before buying more).
The PSGD was surprisingly low powered and controllable. I was expecting a much softer stringbed and my increase in string tension of about 12% over what I used for full poly was too much. I would have been better off with about a 5% increase, and that probably would have given me a more injury friendly feel. As it was, PSGD was good at hitting the ball with a relatively flat swing trajectory. Directional and length control were good, with a consistent but low launch angle, and it seemed to hold tension pretty well. PSGD muted some of the harshness when I mis-hit but there was still a considerable amount of shock if I caught a ball near the frame. What PSGD didn't do well was to spin the ball. Heavy topspin or underspin swing trajectories had the ball feeling as if it slid off the strings. Skimming topspin shots went nowhere - most of them barely would reach the net unless I altered my swingpath and racquet head angle. Heavy underspin attempts would float high and long. Volleys were point-and-shoot, without having to worry about what spin the ball had. After about 90 minutes of fairly gentle use, it looks like it will break within the next 90 minutes.
As I said earlier, I used to recommend this string at moderately high tensions to players who were newer to the game or had a flatter type strokes and I think I was wrong to do so. I'm going to reach out to some of these players and see if they had bad experiences, and restring their racquets for them if they did.
I'll get around to trying Velocity, probably right after I'm done testing the Confidential string. I'm super curious how close reality is to where my perceptions are of that class of string.
ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
I tend to hit a lot of balls toward tip ... cross 3 and 4 (ok ... sometimes 2
) ... maybe that racquet is what I needed all these years. I have only had one Yonex racquet ... still in bag as backup ... and loved it.TennisFreak004
New User
Solinco Vanquish sounds like the string for you! I personally love it because it is very comfortable to use!
graycrait
Legend
Just because I could I strung up one of my hard hitting hitting buddy's (25 yrs my junior) Yonex VCP 97 310s with Sensation in the mains and Prince Premier Control in the crosses. Normally he likes a poly around 57lbs. So I strung up the mains at 58 crosses at 56. Looks like we have a winner for him. He came back and asked for that again. Why hybrid two multis? PPC seems slicker than Sensation so I thought maybe this multi combo could appeal to him even though he is OCD about "straight" strings. How could these people have ever survived wooden racket era with blue or gold spiral as their only choices?
P.S. I am so sick of hearing: "There went my dampener." Or worse yet, "My strings won't stay straight." In both cases the most appropriate responses are "Who gives a s..." or "That is the least of your problems."
P.S. I am so sick of hearing: "There went my dampener." Or worse yet, "My strings won't stay straight." In both cases the most appropriate responses are "Who gives a s..." or "That is the least of your problems."
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ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
SteveI
Legend
I am with you on your PS... LOL.. you must be around the game a lot... How about.. "move your feet and get behind the ball sooner!!!"
SteveI
Legend
I just spit out my coffee with your PS...LOL LOL
Juggernauts
Rookie
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I'm gonna try AK Control 17 next week. At what tensions did you put AK Control? Is it fullbed? Is it a powerful string? Thanks.
Christoforos Giatzakis
Rookie
22kg 18x20 Full bed. Not powerful.
gold325
Hall of Fame
The 3 best multis IMHO that spin and dont get stuck out of place for a few hours of hitting
- Triax
- RPX (like a cheaper Triax almost, cant tell difference head to head)
- Multifeel
