Thanks for the more elaborate feedback. I have tried VS Team 17 (BT7), Klip Legend 17, Pacific Tough Gut (16L) and Pacific Classic (16L) all in hyrbid with various poly crosses generally stung at 23/22. Unfortunately I never had a chance to try non BT7 and so far, I liked Tough Gut the best but only after initial break in (which can take a while). I like Pacific Classic after Tough Gut. Didn't like Klip gut all that much. Waiting for a set of Prime (16L) to be delivered, looking forward to trying it with Outlast crosses.